I tend to use Youtube a lot on my Sony X800, and recently it will no longer launch the app. The logo comes up, and nothing after that. I checked and it looks to be updated to the most recent firmware. Also, no issues with other apps like Hulu, Amazon, or Netflix, etc., just Youtube. Anyone else with this issue, or a solve? Thanks in advance.
I think the recent firmware update messed up the Youtube app and Sony is working on a fix. But after checking last night mine still worked.
I finally got my x800 last Friday and I love it. Over the weekend my wife and I played a few Blu ray movies on it and I can report no freeze up's no lock ups ect. The Blu ray movie The Shallow's looked gorgeous on my x900e as well as a few episodes of Planet Earth II while playing them through my new Blu ray player. Streaming a few movies looked very very good as well through the Vudu app. I paid $150 for my x800 and it was money well spent so far.
I have my X800 hooked up to an X900E as well and love it!
My first movie was The Revenant and how good the visuals were, blew my mind.
My very first 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player that I purchased was the top of the line OPPO UDP-203 back in December of 2016. The OPPO UDP-203 is priced locked at $549 for the life of the player. Overall, the OPPO UDP-203 is better than the Sony UBP-X800, except one major advantage the Sony has is its built in streaming features (OPPO offers no streaming features. A Roku Ultra costs $99.99, so therefore really brings the price of the OPPO up to around $650 instead of $549). However, the list price on the Sony UBP-X800 is $299, and back in November 2017 I had a chance to purchase this Sony player for only $149.99 plus free shipping. At a price that is $400 cheaper than the reference OPPO, I ended up purchasing a couple of Sony UBP-X800’s as gifts for family members. The family members plan on keeping their old 2010 Panasonic Blu-ray players with built in streaming because those players have the legacy analog 1080i component video outputs that can be used on their older 3 CRT TV’s with analog component video inputs.
The build quality is good on the Sony UBP-X800, however the build quality is even better on the OPPO UDP-203. Also the OPPO UDP-203 has a lot more connection jacks and features when compared to the Sony UBP-X800. Here are the following features on the OPPO UDP-203 that is missing on the Sony UBP-X800: The OPPO UDP-203 has a 2 year warranty, 1GB of internal flash storage for BD-LIVE/persistent storage, front LCD screen, professional detachable 3 prong power cord, nicer wireless remote control, 7.1 analog audio outputs, in/out trigger, RS-232C interface, optical output, HDMI input, 1Gbps high-speed Ethernet jack, and two rear high speed USB 3.0 jacks. In addition, the OPPO UDP-203 has Dolby Vision HDR and a save/restore of ones menus settings. Here are the following features that the Sony UBP-X800 has that is not offered on the OPPO UDP-203: a nice selection of popular 4K and 1080P streaming applications and Sony also offers wireless headphone support using Bluetooth technology. The ability to attach a pair of wired or wireless headphones to a 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player is extremely rare. The OPPO UDP-205 for $1,299 has a physical headphone jack. While I personally prefer the quality of wired headphones on an A/V receiver or other device, it was nice of Sony to offer a wireless headphone feature on a lower priced Blu-ray player.
I found the Sony 4K Ultra HD BD-ROM drive loading and operation to be very quiet, and lot more quitter then past Sony’s that I have used. However while the OPPO UDP-203 4K BD-ROM drive appeared to be very similar to the Sony, the OPPO was a little less nosier then the Sony. Each manufacture uses different chasses, which also makes a difference in the noise level. Overall, this really was not an issue on either player and there was only minor differences.
According to the Sound and Vision magazine the Sony UBP-X800 passed all the difficult video performance tests and performs just as well as a OPPO or Panasonic 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player. Of course, the OPPO UDP-203 will have a picture quality advantage over the 2017 Sony and 2017 Panasonic 4K Ultra HD players when playing back a Dolby Vision HDR encoded 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray disc. It is believed that the Sony UBP-X800 might have a hardware limitation that prevents it from getting a Dolby Vision HDR firmware update. However a few days ago Sony announced that the new 2018 UBP-X700 that will be released soon will get a promised Dolby Vision HDR firmware update (possible around August of 2018 for the firmware update for the UBP-X700). Consumers that currently own or plan on purchasing a 4K Ultra HD display that handles Dolby Vision HDR might strongly consider purchasing either the OPPO UDP-203 or the Sony UBP-X700 (If they want the best possible picture quality from 12 bit Dolby Vision HDR 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs). However, it is believed that the 2018 Sony UBP-X700 will have a list price of $249.99 which is $50 less than the UBP-X800 list price. Here are a few known negatives of the new 2018 Sony UBP-X700: Does not play DVD-Audio discs (which is a deal breaker for some audiophiles), has a lower build quality, no Bluetooth wireless headphone support, and possible some other negative issues in the audio quality area.
BD-LIVE and resume play worked perfectly with the optionally purchased 64GB of USB storage
The advantage of the OPPO UDP-203 is that it has 1GB of internal storage for BD-LIVE, storing bookmarks, and for resume playback on JAVA based Blu-ray discs. Almost all other brands of Blu-ray players including Sony no longer offers internal storage to keep cost lower. However, the problem is Blu-ray discs do not work correctly sometimes when persistent storage does not exist. Therefore, one needs to connect either an external hard drive with USB, or a USB flash drive to the Sony UBP-X800 to get flawless playback when using Blu-ray discs and to use the BD-LIVE feature. Now the advantage of the OPPO UDP-203 is that it has 3 USB ports (Two rear USB 3.0 ports and one front USB 2.0 port). Sony as a cost saving measure only has one USB 2.0 port which is located on the front right of the player behind the door. With no rear USB ports, plugging a USB hard drive or USB flash stick that remains plugged in constantly in the front will not look good cosmetically. With some people buying these Sony players for around $149.99, they are most likely not going to spend around $110 for a high-end 2TB hard drive. In addition, since BD-LIVE is now used a lot less by the studios, all one needs is really 64GB of external storage. I located a high-end Ultra Fit 64GB USB 3.0 flash drive back in November for only $18.99 plus free shipping. This 64GB Ultra Fit flash drive has up to 150Mbps read speeds and works perfectly with the Sony UBP-X800. It also looks good cosmetically when compared to standard USB sticks that stick out fairly far. However one needs to erase the default programs and PDF files on the stick by formatting the drive as exFAT when you get it (If one wants to keep the SandDisk Windows files and PDF folders they can always copy and paste them to another drive before formatting the new 64GB flash stick). At the time of this post Amazon has this 64GB flash drive (SDCZ43-064G-GAM46) for only $17.99 plus free shipping. This USB 3.0 flash drive is backwards compatible with Sony’s front USB 2.0 port.
I tested the Sony UBP-X800 BD-LIVE feature with FAT32, exFAT, and NTFS. All 3 of those file formats worked flawlessly. However when using the 64GB flash drive I preferred the exFAT file system since it appeared to work the best on the new Sony player. In addition, I placed a small piece of black electrical tape on the front of the USB flash drive so that the blinking red light would be covered up when watching a movie in a dark room. To use BD-LIVE one needs to turn on “BD Internet Connection” to “Allow” (Located in the “BD/DVD Viewing Settings” menu). Also once and awhile if one every has problems loading a Blu-ray discs they should try deleting the data on the 64GB flash stick by selecting the “Delete BD Data” menu option (Located in the “BD/DVD Viewing Settings” menu). The flash stick should be left in the Sony 100% of the time for the best Blu-ray experience.
Using the BD-LIVE feature for downloading and streaming worked flawlessly on the new Sony UBP-X800. In addition, the BD-LIVE feature was super-fast on the Sony (Back in 2010 BD-LIVE was not popular since Blu-ray players 8 years ago were much slower when compared to today). Many Universal Blu-ray discs use the BD-LIVE feature to stream the latest 720P quality movie trailers with 2.0 DTS stereo sound before the main Blu-ray menu starts. Of course trailers on the existing Blu-ray disc are better quality, however its nice sometimes to see recent and totally different trailers every time the Blu-ray disc is inserted. I also tested the resume playback feature that works perfectly with the 64GB USB flash stick. When one ejects a Blu-ray disc in a middle of a movie, and one inserts the Blu-ray disc in the player a day or so later, a screen will pop up on most modern 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs and standard Blu-ray discs asking the user if they want to watch the movie where they left off or if they want to return to the main menu. Resume play using persistent storage is for modern Blu-ray discs only. The Sony UBP-X800 does not offer resume play for CD’s, SACD, DVD-AUDIO, and DVD’s (The OPPO players offer resume play for any type of optical disc).
One nice thing about the OPPO UDP-203 is that it will automatic start playing any optical disc that one inserts. The Sony UBP-X800 when a DVD-Audio disc, DVD, Blu-ray, or 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray disc is inserted will automatically start playing and load the main menu. However when inserting a CD and SACD in the Sony, one needs to manually hit the play button before the disc will start.
The OPPO UDP-203 will detect 3:2 pulldown from film based sources like 480i DVD movies and upscale the image to 4K/24Hz or 1080P/24Hz by doing a reverse 3:2 pulldown process.. The Sony UBP-X800 also does a reverse 3:2 pulldown process and converts 480i DVD's and some 720P media to 4K/24Hz or 1080P/24Hz. The Sony will also for some streaming applications output native 4K/24Hz or 1080p/24Hz. There is a dedicated menu on the Sony for 24fps material.
The OPPO UDP-203 has better quality fast forward scanning for audio discs and also offers up to 5 times speed fast forward and rewind for video discs. The Sony UBP-X800 is limited to 3 times speed for fast forward and rewind for video discs. The Sony only has one speed for slow motion forward and slow motion reverse when playing video discs (OPPO players offer multiply slow motion speeds for video discs). Both the OPPO UDP-203 and Sony UBP-X800 are first generation 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray players (There is a hardware limitation of first generation 4K Ultra HD players that prevents them from doing slow motion reverse when playing a 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray disc, however slow motion forward works fine).
Some results from extensive testing of the Sony UBP-X800
When it came to playing any type of optical disc the Sony UBP-X800 was flawless with excellent picture and sound quality, and the quality was almost exactly the same as the OPPO UDP-203 when using the main HDMI output.
This is the only Sony Blu-ray player every made that plays DVD-Audio discs. Therefore, both the OPPO UDP-203 and Sony UBP-X800 play Super Audio CD’s and DVD-Audio discs. Any CD, DVD, or Blu-ray player can play HDCD’s at standard CD quality; however very few players exist that can decode the high definition audio layer on HDCD’s. At the time of this post, no 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player exists so far that can decode the high definition layer on HDCD’s. Even the latest OPPO Blu-ray players dropped that feature. However the advantage of both the Sony UBP-X800 and OPPO UDP-203 is that they will play standard audio CD’s, SACD’s, DVD-Audio discs, DVD’s, standard Blu-ray discs, Blu-ray 3D discs, and 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs. Every type of optical disc I played worked flawlessly with no issues on the Sony.
I connected both the Sony UBP-X800 and the OPPO UDP-203 to the exact same A/V receiver using the same brand and model of Monster HDMI cable. When playing stereo CD’s, stereo and multi-channel SACD’s/DVD-Audio discs the Sony sounded almost exactly the same as the OPPO UDP-203. The OPPO has a pure audio button that will turn off the players video processing to reduce the potential for interference from the players video section (Doing this appeared to add slight clarity in sound once and awhile over the Sony which does not offer that feature. However most the time the OPPO and Sony sounded exactly the same). The Sony did an excellent job of sending native 5.1 DSD audio from any multi-channel SACD I inserted. In addition, 5.1 PCM DVD-Audio discs were nice and clear. Native 24 bit 192khz DVD-Audio discs played perfectly fine on the Sony.
For at least 8 years all standalone Blu-ray players even the low end $50 models will bitstream 11.1 DTS X (7.1 DTS-HD Master audio core), 11.1 Dolby ATMOS (7.1 Dolby TrueHD core), and 7.1 PCM. However over the last few years there have been many Blu-ray players under $100 and sometimes more expensive models that convert lossless 7.1 Dolby TrueHD to 2.0 PCM when doing internal decoding. The Sony UBP-X800 performs flawlessly like the OPPO UDP-203 when internal decoding the lossless audio formats to PCM and when mixing in the secondary audio soundtracks. I was able to successfully get the Sony UBP-X800 to internally decode both 7.1 DTS-HD Master audio and 7.1 Dolby TrueHD to full high resolution 7.1 PCM (and also being able to mix in secondary audio at the same time). The big question is well the lower price Sony UBP-X700 be able to do this when it is released?
When it came to picture quality the Sony UBP-X800 appeared to be exactly the same quality as the OPPO UDP-203. However, the source direct feature works much better on the OPPO. Sony has a feature in the menu called “Original Video Resolution”. When that feature is turned on in the Sony, the Sony will properly output a 1080i Blu-ray disc at 1080i, however most of the time instead of a DVD being outputted at 480i (all DVD’s are native 480i), instead the Sony will upscale the DVD to 480P. Now on the OPPO UDP-203 source direct always outputs everything at the native resolution (Which causes 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs to not playback on a 1080P display if source direct is turned on). The Sony original resolution feature in a positive way breaks the rule again and outputs native 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs at 1080P when connected to a 1080P display. So when I did most my testing on the Sony UBP-X800 I left resolution at auto so that 4K Ultra HD output would occur when I connected the Sony to a 4K Ultra HD display (and the Sony would downscale to 1080P when connected to a 1080P display). The DVD and standard Blu-ray upscaling quality appeared to be identical on the Sony and OPPO players including the downscaling quality. One can select the Sony player to output 480i, 480P, 720P, 1080i, 1080P, and 4K. Some people with a very old display using DVI to HDMI adapter might need 480i and 480P resolutions from the HDMI port. However, those videophiles that watch a lot of optical discs will prefer the OPPO for its source direct feature. Also the OPPO has a much more detailed information screen that gives consumers a massive amount of details about the video discs native format and what the OPPO is outputting over HDMI.
The Sony remote control is smaller and has a lower build quality when compared to the OPPO remote. However one nice feature of the Sony remote is that it has a feature where it will operate most popular flat panel TV’s for basic features like power, volume, etc. The Roku Ultra for $99.99 list price is the reference quality streaming player to compare all other streaming players too. The Sony UBP-X800 has a lot of nice 4K and 1080P streaming applications (Roku of course has thousands of apps). The free Fox News application works very nice on the Sony along with the many of other applications. Both the Netflix and VUDU application hopefully one day will get a software update from Sony to offer improved picture and sound quality that matches the Roku Ultra version of these applications. Also it would be nice if a Sony firmware update would add the save/restore feature for the Blu-ray players menu settings (OPPO offers this feature). Hopefully future Sony standalone Blu-ray players will offer 1Gbps Ethernet ports instead of 100Mbps Ethernet ports. The Sony Playstation 3 has had 1Gbps Ethernet since the year 2006 and the OPPO UDP-203 offers that feature (it might only add $5 to the cost of future players). Also in the future at least one rear USB 3.0 port would be ideal on a future Sony. In addition, it costs almost nothing to add 1GB of internal storage for BD-LIVE, bookmarks, and resume play of Blu-ray discs. The Blu-ray Disc Association should have made 1GB or 4GB of internal storage flash memory mandatory, but decided against doing this.
Overall for someone that does not want to spend $549 for a OPPO UDP-203 and another $99.99 for a Roku Ultra, I highly recommend the Sony UBP-X800 as my first choice for the best value priced 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player on the market that also plays SACD’s and DVD-Audio discs. The Sony offers flawless playback of any type of optical disc that I tried. The build quality on the UBP-X800 is also much better when compared to under $100 Blu-ray players. So far this has been the best Sony Blu-ray player that I have every used except for the automated firmware update bug issue that I mentioned at the beginning of this post. This Sony 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player will connect to any old display that has a HDMI input. One can always upgrade to a 4K Ultra HD display in the future to see the best possible picture quality when playing 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs.
For legal reasons all manufactories of Blu-ray players are not allowed to sale a Blu-ray player that is region selectable (region free). They sign a licensing agreement with the Blu-ray Disc Association that requires all North America Blu-ray players to be region A and region 1 locked.
However there are third party companies that are allowed under the law to make and sale a upgrade kit or modify an existing Blu-ray player so that its region selectable for region A, B, and C (plus all regions for DVD). Legally consumers are allowed to own and purchase third party hacked region selectable Blu-ray players and kits from various companies. However for some brands and models it has been known that a firmware update to the Blu-ray player can sometimes make the region free modification not work anymore or the Blu-ray player is unable to work until the hardware modification is removed.
If you are interested in companies that offer Blu-ray players that have been modified for all regions, then search Amazon or other websites for more information. The Sony I reviewed was a region A and region one locked player.
guys what's best receiver to get i'm hoping on my birthday to get one and i'm having a hard time deciding what's best to do granted my brother thinks get speakers I don't want it I been suffering since after Christmas nr626 model<-hdcp 2.2 doesn't exist
I called electronic express they said 199 on 373 series onyko and next step is nr575 299
I just called onyko guy claim that 299 is better atmos with 7 speakers now right now I have right, left front speakers polk audio a center onyko 2 left right speakers in back onyko no sub
he's telling me that if get 373 if I watch a bluray or 4k movie since its 5 speakers receiver will not input 7.1 true hd sound instead 5.1 hd masters or 5.1 dts not sure he's serious or not
what do you guys think yes I do need new speakers and sub however i'm tired of having this receiver listening to sound though tv speakers and not on bd/dvd aka tv
so what's better be cheap 199 373 or go little higher if brother and dad does it that is 299 on 575 series
my birthday is 22nd and I need to figure out what to say to my bother about receiver since he's at time adamant about getting me speakers instead and I so don't want to wait until Christmas to get a receiver that has hdcp 2.2 on it meh
guys what's best receiver to get i'm hoping on my birthday to get one and i'm having a hard time deciding what's best to do granted my brother thinks get speakers I don't want it I been suffering since after Christmas nr626 model<-hdcp 2.2 doesn't exist
I called electronic express they said 199 on 373 series onyko and next step is nr575 299
I just called onyko guy claim that 299 is better atmos with 7 speakers now right now I have right, left front speakers polk audio a center onyko 2 left right speakers in back onyko no sub
he's telling me that if get 373 if I watch a bluray or 4k movie since its 5 speakers receiver will not input 7.1 true hd sound instead 5.1 hd masters or 5.1 dts not sure he's serious or not
what do you guys think yes I do need new speakers and sub however i'm tired of having this receiver listening to sound though tv speakers and not on bd/dvd aka tv
so what's better be cheap 199 373 or go little higher if brother and dad does it that is 299 on 575 series
my birthday is 22nd and I need to figure out what to say to my bother about receiver since he's at time adamant about getting me speakers instead and I so don't want to wait until Christmas to get a receiver that has hdcp 2.2 on it meh
first off, early Happy Birthday!
Okay to answer your question, they are correct, the 373 is a 5.1 only receiver. which means if you do select even a 7.1 signal it'll only translate to 5.1 because there's no option for additional speakers in the receiver itself.
however if you get a 575 you would definitely be futureproofing. since it can do 7.1 and beyond (atmos).
I feel though a little steeper, you'll appreciate it for longer since it has more features and room to upgrade the speakers. but be sure to look at both and look at what they include (feature wise) as it may surprise you that maybe all you need is the 373. it all depends on the type of room this will be set in too, don't forget.
for speaker hunting, I advise you research what you are looking for in sound. for example my goal was to have a home theater setup that focused on music as its primary function, so I made sure to find speakers that could deliver amazing musical sound but be dynamic enough to also push movies to its limits.
I also did purchase my speakers a pair at a time so it took about 4 years to get it all to where I wanted but it was worth it because I was so meticulous with selecting the speakers and pairing with the right receiver for me.
however, I think the purchase that will make the biggest difference sound wise would actually be a Sub, as you don't have one, you're definitely missing out on the awesome low range that HT speakers can't deliver without it.
regardless of what they get you, hey, be happy, you're getting something awesome for your birthday and it's not like you're really going to stop there!
guys what's best receiver to get i'm hoping on my birthday to get one and i'm having a hard time deciding what's best to do granted my brother thinks get speakers I don't want it I been suffering since after Christmas nr626 model<-hdcp 2.2 doesn't exist
I called electronic express they said 199 on 373 series onyko and next step is nr575 299
I just called onyko guy claim that 299 is better atmos with 7 speakers now right now I have right, left front speakers polk audio a center onyko 2 left right speakers in back onyko no sub
he's telling me that if get 373 if I watch a bluray or 4k movie since its 5 speakers receiver will not input 7.1 true hd sound instead 5.1 hd masters or 5.1 dts not sure he's serious or not
what do you guys think yes I do need new speakers and sub however i'm tired of having this receiver listening to sound though tv speakers and not on bd/dvd aka tv
so what's better be cheap 199 373 or go little higher if brother and dad does it that is 299 on 575 series
my birthday is 22nd and I need to figure out what to say to my bother about receiver since he's at time adamant about getting me speakers instead and I so don't want to wait until Christmas to get a receiver that has hdcp 2.2 on it meh
I would get the best receiver that fits your need. This is what I have. A really nice unit that will get you Atmos when your ready for it. Also it's only 299.00 http://www.electronicexpress.com/cat...oneer-VSXLX101
I put in the first Blu-ray disc for Doctor Who series 5 (the original 1080i US release) and the player kept saying "NO DISC" when I tried to play it. I tried another disc (Blue Eyes of the Broken Doll from the Paul Naschy Collection), and it loaded up without a problem. I then tried the Doctor Who disc again (as well as the second disc from the set) and it still said "NO DISC". I unplugged the machine for a minute and tried again and the disc finally played.
Same issue with same fix when I put in the first disc from the 4K Westworld set. The same disc had played fine on my other UBP-X800 just minutes earlier.
Although I don't own a 4k projector or television yet, I decided to get this player since my dream of owning an Oppo have died, and I wanted a universal player that could play both high resolution formats. I was disappointed to find out that it would not play DVD+R discs with DVD-Audio ISO burns. It states that the disc is an unrecognized format. This is very unfortunate since I have the first Oppo upscaling DVD player, and that thing plays all of them. They were discs that we're never available commercially like Dark Side of the Moon. Does the newest Oppo players still play burned DVD-AUDIO discs?
All Blu-ray players can play recordable optical discs, however certain brands of recordable discs have compatibility issues with certain players. Stamped optical discs in the factory do not have this problem, its only certain recordable discs that have compatibility issues when used on certain Blu-ray players.
For homemade family videos, one can copy it to another brand of optical disc that well sometimes overcome the incompatibility issue.
guys what's best receiver to get i'm hoping on my birthday to get one and i'm having a hard time deciding what's best to do granted my brother thinks get speakers I don't want it I been suffering since after Christmas nr626 model<-hdcp 2.2 doesn't exist
I called electronic express they said 199 on 373 series onyko and next step is nr575 299
I just called onyko guy claim that 299 is better atmos with 7 speakers now right now I have right, left front speakers polk audio a center onyko 2 left right speakers in back onyko no sub
he's telling me that if get 373 if I watch a bluray or 4k movie since its 5 speakers receiver will not input 7.1 true hd sound instead 5.1 hd masters or 5.1 dts not sure he's serious or not
what do you guys think yes I do need new speakers and sub however i'm tired of having this receiver listening to sound though tv speakers and not on bd/dvd aka tv
so what's better be cheap 199 373 or go little higher if brother and dad does it that is 299 on 575 series
my birthday is 22nd and I need to figure out what to say to my bother about receiver since he's at time adamant about getting me speakers instead and I so don't want to wait until Christmas to get a receiver that has hdcp 2.2 on it meh
I would just go for the one that fits your budget also and go test them out in store and get a feel for yourself which you think sounds best. I did this with my sound bar before deciding which one to get.
Yeah, it was $149 at other places around BF as well.
This player really should be getting discounted more heavily as it has been replaced by the X700 model, which has been promised a Dolby Vision update this summer (although Sony has been known to really let that kind of promise slide on the TV side, but Hey, it's 2018, maybe they'll do better!)
By this next BF, these should be on close-outs, or maybe even OOS, I predict IMHO.
Just replaced my Samsung UBD-K8500 with the Sony UBP-X800 and I am very pleased with it. My K8500 still is working fine, but there were a few things about it I was not a fan of.
I was very pleased to see that virtually every aspect of the X800 is an improvement over the K8500 and the build quality is far exceeding the aforementioned.
I never experimented with the Samsung 4K Blu-ray players. I've read the owners comments and professional reviews from various sources. They have some picture qualities, and some less than stellar other attributes.
I was totally turned off by their physical designs when I touched them from top to bottom and front to back @ my local video stores. Their front curvature to match their curved TVs is not my favorite design. Their lightweight plastic cases doesn't inspire confidence and reliability and noise reduction from the internal disc transport.
I saw in person the 8500 right besides the Sony X800. The Samsung 8500 was $250 Canadian on sale @ the time...and the Sony X800 on sale @ $200 Canadian. I went for the cheaper player...price wise.
I just couldn't afford the cheap looking plastic design of the Ssamsung player, and even if it would have been only $100 Canadian.
But some reviewers rated it favorably for speed, for picture quality, streaming.
Same for the Sony X800 player.
This is on Massdrop under model number UBP-UX80 (the only difference is that the UX80 comes with an HDMI cable) for $130 (free tax and shipping in most states).
This is a great player. I bought it to compliment a new 4k TV but I am using it with my old Pioneer Elite. Looks better playing regular blu rays than my older panasonic. it tracks motion much better. although, my old player was 50 bucks so this one should be better. better picture contrast and depth in blacks and lower light. its a winner.
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