Sony UBP-X800 4K UHD Blu-ray player - Page 185 - Blu-ray Forum

Frank@Chicago · 07-08-2018, 02:58 AM

I was having all manner of weirdo problems with my X800 recently.

Wierd colors on menu, no menu at all, blank screen, unable to turn off, Unknown discs.

Had to unplug multiple times, then got the firmware update and turned off Quick Start.

Now that it's booting from scratch every time, things are going better...

LordoftheRings · 07-08-2018, 06:19 AM

[Quick Start Mode] ... I love the default setting best ... Off

I found that the less power you ask from that player the best it is to live without issues.
It doesn't have a huge power supply, in all consideration. It's not say an Oppo 205.

LordoftheRings · 07-12-2018, 03:42 PM

Is this player dying slowly.

Me I think so because all apps are inoperative now, caput.
When you want to watch Netflix or any other app it tells you that you need to perform a network software update. So the only way to have the apps working is to update your player by force.
And if you don't want to be forced your player's apps are all dead.

I've never seen that before with any other players.

Is there s hiding trick to watch Netflix without updating your Sony X800?
I don't need to update my player, I don't want to, it was perfectly fine before; now if I don't update it I'll never get back my streaming apps for it...thanks very much so Sony, you lost me.

What about the rest of you; are you too in that same boat?
Or did you update your player to have your apps back and have zero or some issues now.
Sony's support is very low, super low, way too low.

BGGIII · 07-12-2018, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Is this player dying slowly.

Me I think so because all apps are inoperative now, caput.
When you want to watch Netflix or any other app it tells you that you need to perform a network software update. So the only way to have the apps working is to update your player by force.
And if you don't want to be forced your player's apps are all dead.

I've never seen that before with any other players.

Is there s hiding trick to watch Netflix without updating your Sony X800?
I don't need to update my player, I don't want to, it was perfectly fine before; now if I don't update it I'll never get back my streaming apps for it...thanks very much so Sony, you lost me.

What about the rest of you; are you too in that same boat?
Or did you update your player to have your apps back and have zero or some issues now.
Sony's support is very low, super low, way too low.

I've had no issues with this player since the most recent firmware update.

LordoftheRings · 07-12-2018, 04:55 PM

But you did have to update it in order to have your apps back.

That's good you have no issues with the update, it would also be good that all others who did have no issues either. I'm reading audio forums in Canada, France, Germany, Italy, UK, China, Japan...and some owners of the Sony X800 4K BR players have all kind of issues now since they updated their players in order to stream from their apps; X800 freezing, audio/video sync problems, players stop playing, discs breaking out in pixelization, audio cut out, BD discs freezes, 4K BR discs freezes, door not opening, remote not responding, ...

I'd like to hear from say one hundred owners to have a better overall view, here.

But anyway, for Sony to make the apps inoperative is not good, it's bad. You don't need to force your customers to perform software updates if they don't want to, if they are happy, and nothing is broken.
Why fix something that is not broken? If it ain't broken ....

But Sony sure broke that player by making all apps caput. If you want your apps back you have zero choice; you have to update it, and see if it fits. If it does, good, if it doesn't, kiss your player goodbye.

Iain- · 07-12-2018, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Is this player dying slowly.

Me I think so because all apps are inoperative now, caput.
When you want to watch Netflix or any other app it tells you that you need to perform a network software update. So the only way to have the apps working is to update your player by force.
And if you don't want to be forced your player's apps are all dead.

I've never seen that before with any other players.

I have, with the Netflix app on my BDP-S790 two years ago.

Quote:

Is there s hiding trick to watch Netflix without updating your Sony X800?

Yes. Get a Roku Ultra.

...

MooneyRara · 07-12-2018, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

I'd like to hear from say one hundred owners to have a better overall view, here.

So... is 100 the final number? Or are you flexible with this requirement?

Should we form a straight line too? Single file?

Sky_Captain · 07-12-2018, 07:09 PM

Update the player, ffs.

Heapashifter · 07-12-2018, 07:12 PM

Playstation's do that too. You can't can't do anything internet related without the latest update.

MooneyRara · 07-12-2018, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

Update the player, ffs.

Wait, you mean update? To make current?

HDTV1080P · 07-12-2018, 09:59 PM

The Sony UBP-X800 could support the exact same streaming apps as the UBP-X700 if Sony would just have a programmer create new or similar apps. Then with a firmware update the UBP-X800 could have the same apps as the UBP-X700. However Dolby Vision HDR is not supported from streaming or optical disc on the UBP-X800 since the first generation processor is not powerful enough. Even the first generation 4K OPPO UDP-203/UDP-205 had challenges and some minor hardware limitations when Dolby Vision HDR was released.

I like the Sony UBP-X800 since it plays all optical discs including DVD-AUDIO. DVD-Audio was dropped and never offered on the new Sony UBP-X700. The UBP-X800 is ideal for someone that has a older 4K or 1080P display without the Dolby Vision HDR feature.

LordoftheRings · 07-12-2018, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iain-

I have, with the Netflix app on my BDP-S790 two years ago.

Yes. Get a Roku Ultra....

1. Ok, I guess it was the same with my 770 and 570 then.

2. Wise axe.

LordoftheRings · 07-12-2018, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooneyRara

So... is 100 the final number? Or are you flexible with this requirement?

Should we form a straight line too? Single file?

I was just numerous.

LordoftheRings · 07-12-2018, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

Update the player, ffs.

The captain without fear, I, like it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heapashifter

Playstation's do that too. You can't can't do anything internet related without the latest update.

So it's just Sony then?

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooneyRara

Wait, you mean update? To make current?

It is scary isn't it.

LordoftheRings · 07-12-2018, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

The Sony UBP-X800 could support the exact same streaming apps as the UBP-X700 if Sony would just have a programmer create new or similar apps. Then with a firmware update the UBP-X800 could have the same apps as the UBP-X700. However Dolby Vision HDR is not supported from streaming or optical disc on the UBP-X800 since the first generation processor is not powerful enough. Even the first generation 4K OPPO UDP-203/UDP-205 had challenges and some minor hardware limitations when Dolby Vision HDR was released.

I like the Sony UBP-X800 since it plays all optical discs including DVD-AUDIO. DVD-Audio was dropped and never offered on the new Sony UBP-X700. The UBP-X800 is ideal for someone that has a older 4K or 1080P display without the Dolby Vision HDR feature.

If the Sony X800 can support the exact same streaming apps as the X700, what is stopping Sony do do it?

We all know about the no go of Dolby Vision for the X800.

And the OPPO 203/205...they have their own dedicated threads on why they are the best players in the world.

Me too, I like the X800 (not as much as the 205 though). But for a second player or third...it's almost perfect. And for the price, it is perfect. ...Particularly with a non-Dolby Vision front projector and flat panel 4K UHD HDR10 TV.

sa5150 · 07-16-2018, 01:34 PM

How does this player playback dvd and 1080p blurays compared to the competition ? PQ and SQ ?

eddievanhalen · 07-16-2018, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sa5150

How does this player playback dvd and 1080p blurays compared to the competition ? PQ and SQ ?

It plays them fine as long as you let your T.V. do the upscaling. Just set Video Output to Original Resolution.

eddievanhalen · 07-16-2018, 01:49 PM

This is the first SACD player of any kind that outputs some kind of signal via coaxial output while playing an SACD disc. It must not do the HDMI handshake with a pre/receiver able of playing DSD via HDMI. If you set one input on your receiver to digital coaxial with no HDMI input asigned, set it on this input, then turn the X-800 on and play a stereo SACD you will get a 176.4/24 PCM signal.
There may be more players that do this but this is the first one I've seen doing it.

Doughoef · 07-16-2018, 01:51 PM

Down to $158 on Amazon which is a great price, but the reviews are very mixed and it seems like this player is very buggy. I like the price but can't pull the trigger on this one.

sa5150 · 07-16-2018, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

It plays them fine as long as you let your T.V. do the upscaling. Just set Video Output to Original Resolution.

Why do it with the tv ? Mine is a old sony led , I would think this does better dvd upscaling .

07-12-2018, 04:55 PM	#3685
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	But you did have to update it in order to have your apps back. That's good you have no issues with the update, it would also be good that all others who did have no issues either. I'm reading audio forums in Canada, France, Germany, Italy, UK, China, Japan...and some owners of the Sony X800 4K BR players have all kind of issues now since they updated their players in order to stream from their apps; X800 freezing, audio/video sync problems, players stop playing, discs breaking out in pixelization, audio cut out, BD discs freezes, 4K BR discs freezes, door not opening, remote not responding, ... I'd like to hear from say one hundred owners to have a better overall view, here. But anyway, for Sony to make the apps inoperative is not good, it's bad. You don't need to force your customers to perform software updates if they don't want to, if they are happy, and nothing is broken. Why fix something that is not broken? If it ain't broken .... But Sony sure broke that player by making all apps caput. If you want your apps back you have zero choice; you have to update it, and see if it fits. If it does, good, if it doesn't, kiss your player goodbye. Last edited by LordoftheRings; 07-12-2018 at 05:00 PM.

07-08-2018, 02:58 AM	#3681
Frank@Chicago Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jul 2013 Blu-ray reviews:1	I was having all manner of weirdo problems with my X800 recently. Wierd colors on menu, no menu at all, blank screen, unable to turn off, Unknown discs. Had to unplug multiple times, then got the firmware update and turned off Quick Start. Now that it's booting from scratch every time, things are going better...

07-08-2018, 06:19 AM	#3682
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	[Quick Start Mode] ... I love the default setting best ... Off I found that the less power you ask from that player the best it is to live without issues. It doesn't have a huge power supply, in all consideration. It's not say an Oppo 205.

07-12-2018, 03:42 PM	#3683
LordoftheRings Special Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Portishead ♫	Is this player dying slowly. Me I think so because all apps are inoperative now, caput. When you want to watch Netflix or any other app it tells you that you need to perform a network software update. So the only way to have the apps working is to update your player by force. And if you don't want to be forced your player's apps are all dead. I've never seen that before with any other players. Is there s hiding trick to watch Netflix without updating your Sony X800? I don't need to update my player, I don't want to, it was perfectly fine before; now if I don't update it I'll never get back my streaming apps for it...thanks very much so Sony, you lost me. What about the rest of you; are you too in that same boat? Or did you update your player to have your apps back and have zero or some issues now. Sony's support is very low, super low, way too low.

07-12-2018, 07:09 PM	#3688
Sky_Captain Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:17	Update the player, ffs.

07-12-2018, 07:12 PM	#3689
Heapashifter Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jan 2015 Location:Myrtle Beach, SC 4K collection:438 Blu-ray collection:2689 DVD collection:275 Digital collection:687 Prime collection:7 Trading Score:13	Playstation's do that too. You can't can't do anything internet related without the latest update.

07-12-2018, 09:59 PM	#3691
HDTV1080P Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 205	The Sony UBP-X800 could support the exact same streaming apps as the UBP-X700 if Sony would just have a programmer create new or similar apps. Then with a firmware update the UBP-X800 could have the same apps as the UBP-X700. However Dolby Vision HDR is not supported from streaming or optical disc on the UBP-X800 since the first generation processor is not powerful enough. Even the first generation 4K OPPO UDP-203/UDP-205 had challenges and some minor hardware limitations when Dolby Vision HDR was released. I like the Sony UBP-X800 since it plays all optical discs including DVD-AUDIO. DVD-Audio was dropped and never offered on the new Sony UBP-X700. The UBP-X800 is ideal for someone that has a older 4K or 1080P display without the Dolby Vision HDR feature.

07-16-2018, 01:34 PM	#3696
sa5150 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2011 Location:Chicago IL 4K collection:147 Blu-ray collection:869 DVD collection:330 Digital collection:7 iTunes collection:3 Prime collection:4 Blu-ray reviews:11 Trading Score:40	How does this player playback dvd and 1080p blurays compared to the competition ? PQ and SQ ?

07-16-2018, 01:49 PM	#3698
eddievanhalen Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:9	This is the first SACD player of any kind that outputs some kind of signal via coaxial output while playing an SACD disc. It must not do the HDMI handshake with a pre/receiver able of playing DSD via HDMI. If you set one input on your receiver to digital coaxial with no HDMI input asigned, set it on this input, then turn the X-800 on and play a stereo SACD you will get a 176.4/24 PCM signal. There may be more players that do this but this is the first one I've seen doing it.

07-16-2018, 01:51 PM	#3699
Doughoef Expert Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Icelandia 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:269 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:9	Down to $158 on Amazon which is a great price, but the reviews are very mixed and it seems like this player is very buggy. I like the price but can't pull the trigger on this one.

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