Sony UBP-X800 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[Paul.R.S]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

No idea. Maybe Sony has a server up and running no longer wants to invest into it. Never used Gracenote, if I want info I will Google it. Maybe Sony has the same thoughts as I do.

Same goes for all those BD-live functions, half-dead.

Thanks for the replies, gents.

Originally Posted by WKoA13

Aaaah, good ol BD-live and using the internet to "improve" our movie watching experience.

God knows there's nothing I loved more on a Universal disc than popping it in, and then waiting for it to "find the latest trailers" online so I could skip them.

Ya' know of course you could turn that access off I think from very early on (on most/all players?), right? And then the player would not ping the Internet automatically.

[Speaking BD-L, it's interesting to consider what might have been if the studios had been more forward-thinking and used that connectivity to deliver more substantive content . . . like streamed movies (and not just the "Community Live Screening" of The Dark Knight, which I remember participating in). It's one of the reasons any sympathy I might have for the studios' attitude towards Netflix is complicated. How ironic to remember that Netflix was d/b/a Red Envelope Entertainment in film production and distribution in 2006, quitting in 2008 so as to not offend their studio partners. Obviously, they got over that starting in 2012.]

[Paul.R.S]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Jumping in here with a guess. Sony owned Gracenote for several years then sold it. They probably had rights to its use for a period of time.

But according to Wikipedia, it was back in 2014 that Sony sold Gracenote to Tribune (who then sold it to Nielsen in 2017) . . .

[Blu Balls]

Gracenote didn't work half the time anyway. I used to laugh at the mistakes that it would make. Once I was binge watching The Wire, and it said that one of the discs was a women's workout video.

[Deviancy]

Originally Posted by Frank@Chicago

Why are we being 'upgraded' from v239 to v238? Isn't that going backwards.

That seems just weird, like when the X700 replaced the X800...

The new update is v338 according to Sony.com not v238.

Still can't find a thread for those using the 6700 and who have updated.

[LordoftheRings]

▪ https://www.sony.com/electronics/sup...loads/00015920

[mikevieira]

Im looking for my first 4k Blu Ray player. Im looking to retire my ps3 as my main dvd player. I don't have a 4k tv yet. Still got my plasma. But I want to upgrade so that I will already have a 4k player when the time comes to update my tv. So my question is would you recommend this to me? Looks like its only about $200 at this time. Not sure Im willing to spend over $300 for a 4k dvd player.

[LordoftheRings]

The only question is Dolby Vision.
If you want it wait for the replacement in May, the UBP-X800M2, most likely for $299 retail. But, on Black Friday 2019 I bet it'll be $199

That was the second question; can you wait.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

The only question is Dolby Vision.
If you want it wait for the replacement in May, the UBP-X800M2, most likely for $299 retail.
But, on Black Friday 2019 I bet it'll be $199

That was the second question; can you wait.

In the future when the 2019 Sony UBP-X800M2 is released in theory someone should be creating a users thread for that player. The 2019 Sony UBP-X800M2 is exactly the same as the 2017 Sony UBP-X800 except for faster processor that supports Dolby Vision HDR and a $100 higher list price.


When the Sony UBP-X800M2 is released it well have a $400 list price and most likely a $400 street price for a few months. Maybe one day the Sony could see a $299 to $349 retail price. Also logically a November 2019 price of $199 is possible if inflation does not kick in and if Sony is trying to clear out inventory. However the Sony UBP-X800M2 might be Sony's last Blu-ray player and made in smaller QTY's which could result in the player being priced locked at $400. Its hard to predict the future accurately and one well just have to wait and see what happens. It is not a good sign that Sony did not design a new Blu-ray player from the ground up and made small changes to the existing 2017 UBP-X800 when creating the 2019 UBP-X800M2. From what I read it is my understanding that there well be no new ES Sony Blu-ray player this year either. Hopefully that info is wrong.

UPDATE the new 2019 Sony UBP-X800M2 official list price is $300.


https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...7&postcount=49

[Cortiz]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

In the future when the 2019 Sony UBP-X800M2 is released in theory someone should be creating a users thread for that player that is exactly the same as the 2017 Sony UBP-X800 except for faster processor that supports Dolby Vision HDR and a $100 higher list price.


When the Sony UBP-X800M2 is released it well have a $400 list price and most likely a $400 street price for a few months. Maybe one day the Sony could see a $299 to $349 retail price. Also logically a November 2019 price of $199 is possible if inflation does not kick in and if Sony is trying to clear out inventory. However the Sony UBP-X800M2 might be Sony's last Blu-ray player and made in smaller QTY's which could result in the player being priced locked at $400. Its hard to predict the future accurately and one well just have to wait and see what happens. It is not a good sign that Sony did not design a new Blu-ray player from the ground up and made small changes to the existing 2017 UBP-X800 when creating the 2019 UBP-X800M2. From what I read it is my understanding that there well be no new ES Sony Blu-ray player this year either. Hopefully that info is wrong.

Sony hasn't release a new Blu ray player since the S1700,S5700 and S6700 models which are at least 2 or 3 years old. However, they are still being manufacture and widely available. The same could be hold true for the X800. As far as a new ES model, there's probably no need for one as they can just update their current X1000es with the correct chip and add DV just as they are doing with the upcoming X800M2.

[Vanguard]

I am in the same boat as Mikevieira. Jumping into 4K soon, and was planning to get the X800, as according to rtings.com, it has superior DVD playback compared to the X700. Which is more desirable for me than Dolby Vision, as I watch a ton of DVD content still.

Will wait for reviews, but I would be ecstatic if the X800M2 had the same DVD playback as the X800, along with Dolby Vision.

[LordoftheRings]

Right now the X800 list price is $299, but it's on sale everywhere for $199

$200 more (X800M2 @ $399) just to have Dolby Vision? No way, it won't take long for the X800M2 to be @ $299.
When the M2 comes on sale @ Black Friday or/and @ Boxing Day for $199 or $149 I'll buy couple of them.

If this is any indication of new players from Sony ...
• https://launchstudio.bluetooth.com/ListingDetails/8229

[mysticwaterfall]

Originally Posted by Vanguard

I am in the same boat as Mikevieira. Jumping into 4K soon, and was planning to get the X800, as according to rtings.com, it has superior DVD playback compared to the X700. Which is more desirable for me than Dolby Vision, as I watch a ton of DVD content still.

Will wait for reviews, but I would be ecstatic if the X800M2 had the same DVD playback as the X800, along with Dolby Vision.

The video playback between the x700 and x800 is identical besides the DV, so if that is the only thing holding you back, I would stop waiting.

The differences between the 2 are that the x800 has a much sturdier build, is quieter, and supports hi-res audio with SACD and DVD-Audio playback.

[Vanguard]

Originally Posted by mysticwaterfall

The video playback between the x700 and x800 is identical besides the DV, so if that is the only thing holding you back, I would stop waiting.

The differences between the 2 are that the x800 has a much sturdier build, is quieter, and supports hi-res audio with SACD and DVD-Audio playback.

Interesting. I trust rtings, but found no one else mentioning it. Probably will spring for the x800 soon then.

Thanks!

[Nitroboy]

Originally Posted by mysticwaterfall

...the x800 has a much sturdier build, is quieter, and supports hi-res audio with SACD and DVD-Audio playback.

The X700 supports SACD as well. I'm not sure about DVD-Audio

[mysticwaterfall]

Originally Posted by Vanguard

Interesting. I trust rtings, but found no one else mentioning it. Probably will spring for the x800 soon then.

Thanks!

As long as DV doesnt matter to you at all, sure. I had the X800 and sold it for the X700 because I wanted the DV more then the other features.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Nitroboy

The X700 supports SACD as well. I'm not sure about DVD-Audio

SACD yes (but I doubt people buy that player for that feature).
DVD-Audio no (it really doesn't matter for people who buy the X700).

The main essence of the X700 is Dolby Vision.
When the X800M2 appears it all will fade away, more so on Boxing Day.
And it will be just a bit harder for the Panasonic 820 player...money.

[mysticwaterfall]

My mistake, I just assumed they got rid of that as well. I do have to agree the M2 will be all around "better" when it comes out though.

[eddievanhalen]

Is it me or does this player do a subpar chroma upsampling compared to other inexpensive players like the ones from Panasonic or even LG?

[Vanguard]

Originally Posted by mysticwaterfall

As long as DV doesnt matter to you at all, sure. I had the X800 and sold it for the X700 because I wanted the DV more then the other features.

I would like to have a Dolby Vision compatible player from the start, as I have a couple DV discs already, and would like to be prepared. If the M2 truly has a more powerful processor as well, seems worth the wait. The question is whether to wait for it on sale, or jump on it asap. Will keep a sharp eye on it.

[Fat Phil]

After two years of glitch free play my X-800 has decided to be a pain in the ass. Might just be showing its age because i've put some serious miles on it - hours a day - be it playing discs, watching Netflix or Amazon Prime.

Latest firmware but problems with three different blemish free discs in the last week - pixelation and general freezing/skipping. Darkest Hour, the Darkest Hour replacement disc (crapping out in the exact same spots, which raises red flags that it was the player not the discs) and The Purge: Anarchy last night. All Universal titles, so I don't know if that means anything

Also watched Tomb Raider (Warner Bros), Ghost in the Shell (Paramount), Snow White and the Huntsman (Universal) and Equalizer 2 (Sony) but they were all fine. Still, three discs in one week after nothing in two years is too much of a coincidence.

Been meaning to buy a back-up player anyway so I went for the Panasonic 820 which i've wanted to check out for a while now. It'll be interesting to see if the same discs give me problems on the Panny.