Sony UBP-X800 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by jeffm2016

Any chance sony will offer firmware upgrade for x800 m1 for Dolbyvision? Or is that a gan ship period?

It's a definite NO.

If you want a Sony 4K BR player with Dolby Vision you have three options:
1. Buy the X700
2. Wait about three weeks for the X800M2
3. Wait for the X1100ES to be released "soon"

[Heapashifter]

Originally Posted by jeffm2016

Any chance sony will offer firmware upgrade for x800 m1 for Dolbyvision? Or is that a gan ship period?

It's not possible for it's hardware.

[jason49]

hi just recently bought this player and have a couple of questions.

ive read a few comments about turning on quick play but cant find this option anywhere on the player or in the manual.
also do all of you always update the firmware or are some of happy on whatever firmware your on. i only ask as many people say they only started getting problems with the player after firmware update.

im currently on M36.R.0238 and am not sure if i should update or not.

any help much appreciated

[GenPion]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

It's a definite NO.

If you want a Sony 4K BR player with Dolby Vision you have three options:
1. Buy the X700
2. Wait about three weeks for the X800M2
3. Wait for the X1100ES to be released "soon"

Any pre order links yet for the X800M2?

Also, the Dolby Vision on this upgraded model should work with the Sony Z9D correct? It sounds as though they would be compatible for Dolby Vision.

[tcripe]

Originally Posted by GenPion

Any pre order links yet for the X800M2?

Also, the Dolby Vision on this upgraded model should work with the Sony Z9D correct? It sounds as though they would be compatible for Dolby Vision.

I'd be shocked if a Sony DV BR player wouldn't work with a Sony DV TV.

[jkeldo]

I assume you mean Quick Start mode which is on p. 25 of the manual and is found under Setup/System Settings from the home screen. As for firmware, I have always updated with no issues. A lot depends on your setup as some people have had issues with certain combinations of equipment such as projectors and receivers.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by jason49

hi just recently bought this player and have a couple of questions.

ive read a few comments about turning on quick play but cant find this option anywhere on the player or in the manual.
also do all of you always update the firmware or are some of happy on whatever firmware your on. i only ask as many people say they only started getting problems with the player after firmware update.

im currently on M36.R.0238 and am not sure if i should update or not.

any help much appreciated

Originally Posted by jkeldo

I assume you mean Quick Start mode which is on p. 25 of the manual and is found under Setup/System Settings from the home screen. As for firmware, I have always updated with no issues. A lot depends on your setup as some people have had issues with certain combinations of equipment such as projectors and receivers.

Like he said ^

Quick Start mode: Off ... because it could interfere with say streaming functions.

And do the updates. ...Firmwares and all (apps).

[cminer72]

Don't know if it was coincidence, but the last firmware updated killed my previously rock solid X800. It started to occasionally turn its self on and lock up, started to lock up while powering down and it started to reset to factory settings on it's own. It progressed from being occasionally that the unit was being reset to every time I turned it on. I switched to a X700 and like it so far. The X800 was a launch model, so a few years old.

[LordoftheRings]

I encountered one major blip with the Sony X800 (latest firmware). ...The one and only one ever in about eighteen months. It totally froze on The Incredibles 2 4K BR. ...About half way.
Nothing worked, ...all remote control buttons, power button on the remote and front panel, eject button, ...nothing. The picture was frozen and that was it.
The next logical step was supremely easy; disconnect the AC power cord from the wall AC outlet, wait thirty seconds, replug the AC power cord...bingo! ...All 100% working brand new normal again.

That's not worst than my Oppo players. ...Extremely rarely I encountered a glitch involving my Oppo players. It has more to do or with a connection, or another component compatibility, or power fluctuations during heavy winds and rain outside...black bouts.

This too: I believe that with any product, any brand, ...anything is possible.
And it could be for a million reasons. ...From batches, connections, QC, HDMI compatibity, power, wires, jacks, discs, dirt, smudge, scratches, ...a million more reasons.

I have the best luck with Oppo players, Sony players.
And the bad luck I had with other players were quality control of the laser mechanism, or simply an inferior Blu-ray player brand with nowhere near the great support and service from Oppo.
No wonder they sell the 203 and 205 on eBay for two to three times what they originally cost.

But anyone can encounter issues with any player. It's fine if it can be remedied without much sweat, and if it is only occasionally for a good reason. But it is frustrating if no solution is found, and the player is practically caput and not under warranty. ...Even more so when the player costs from say $500 to $2,000

We're all different with our finances; a $200 4K BR player is a serious investment for some folks.
Other folks don't even watch 4K BR movies because they don't make $10,000+ 4K BR players.

Anyway, the X800 is inexpensive ($199), very. And the X800M2 (Dolby Vision) is coming up...$299.

Sure there are other more expensive players from Panasonic and Pioneer.
That's nice to have choices and spend what we want to spend.
It's nice to pick a player for the features we like.

It's a lovely spring day today, 29° Celsius outside.
I stay under the tree's shade with a gentle breeze coming from the ocean.
...No problemo, all tranquility in paradise beachfront. ...Canada way of living.

[Bradman]

Originally Posted by cminer72

Don't know if it was coincidence, but the last firmware updated killed my previously rock solid X800. It started to occasionally turn its self on and lock up, started to lock up while powering down and it started to reset to factory settings on it's own. It progressed from being occasionally that the unit was being reset to every time I turned it on. I switched to a X700 and like it so far. The X800 was a launch model, so a few years old.

Mine started doing the same thing. I've turned off HDMI-CEC, Quick Start, and the internet connection, it seems to help.

[Scarriere]

I’m wondering if anyone has Black Hawk Down UHD and has had any audio issues?
I don’t have that movie yet and want to know before ordering it.
tia.

[eagle1]

Quick question. Should I be able to notice a difference in resolution from a regular blu ray to an ultra HD while looking at a still image? I’m using the X-800 and when I’m watching a movie, it feels like there is a bump in resolution. But I’m not sure if that’s just my eyes playing tricks on me. When I pause a still image on the x-800 with a 4k blu ray, and then switch inputs to the same image, a regular blu ray in my Samsung blu ray player, I don’t really notice a resolution bump. Full disclosure, I am using a 4K tv that doesn’t support HDR, and I bought this specific player because it’s pretty good at converting an HDR signal to SDR, but I mainly invested in 4K blu rays for the resolution (and future proofing). Any chance I’m doing something wrong, or is it just hard to notice the resolution on a paused image?

[LordoftheRings]

A TV that supports HDR would be the first positive step.

[LettuceJUMP]

I would ask what is the size and tv model? Some tv’s it would hard to see difference unless large and has very good colors/levels. Anything under 65 inches is very hard. I had to go to 75 at my distance to even appreciate.

[cgpublic]

Originally Posted by eagle1

Quick question. Should I be able to notice a difference in resolution from a regular blu ray to an ultra HD while looking at a still image

There are a ton of variables that come into play when comparing a Blu disc vs. a UHD disc, beginning with the source and how the content and respective discs were mastered.

Secondly, remember that independent of the content, a 4K TV presents the content in 4K.

Furthermore, your perception of the resolution, e.g., the amount of detail, can vary widely dependent upon the distance you are seated from the screen along with your TV settings, e.g., gamma, brightness, sharpness, etc., and the settings for your X800, e.g., picture settings, resolution/upscaling, etc.

And we haven't even touched on HDR, which does not apply in this case.

The bottom line is that for certain discs, a comparison of Blu vs. UHD specific to image detail may appear negligible at best, especially given the absence of HDR.

[eddievanhalen]

Originally Posted by eagle1

I don’t really notice a resolution bump. Full disclosure, I am using a 4K tv that doesn’t support HDR, and I bought this specific player because it’s pretty good at converting an HDR signal to SDR, but I mainly invested in 4K blu rays for the resolution (and future proofing).

The Sony X-800 good for converting HDR to SDR? In what alternate universe?
The Sony X-800 does a terrible job at both converting HDR to SDR and upconverting HD to 4K.

[LordoftheRings]

Panasonic I've read is best @ performing this act, both ways.

[Scarriere]

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

The Sony X-800 good for converting HDR to SDR? In what alternate universe?
The Sony X-800 does a terrible job at both converting HDR to SDR and upconverting HD to 4K.

Gotta disagree on the HD to 4K.
You say it like it’s absolute, but it looks pretty great to me.

[eddievanhalen]

Originally Posted by Scarriere

Gotta disagree on the HD to 4K.
You say it like it’s absolute, but it looks pretty great to me.

I humbly suggest you to go to the optician and get your eyes checked.

[eagle1]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

A TV that supports HDR would be the first positive step.

I like 3D way to much to abandon it for HDR, TVs with both were way out of my price range, and now they are practically extinct.

Originally Posted by LettuceJUMP

I would ask what is the size and tv model? Some tv’s it would hard to see difference unless large and has very good colors/levels. Anything under 65 inches is very hard. I had to go to 75 at my distance to even appreciate.

I’m currently on a 50”, but for this I am sitting practically 1 foot from the screen, I’ve played with colours and levels, and I’ve been able to get the 4K picture looking as good or better colour/contrast wise in almost all of my comparisons, but I guess it’s just the lack of resolution bump that has me concerned. I understand that my tv is already upconverting the blu ray. But after seeing reviews, that constantly reference the level of detail, I thought I would notice it a bit more, similar to the first time I compared a blu ray to a dvd.

I’ve also done the same test on a 65” Samsung JU7500, which does have HDR (albeit added afterwards, and possibly not the real thing). And I’ve had similar results. It seems extremely detailed in motion, but when comparing a paused still image, even that of a skyline or something with small details in the distance, I find it hard to notice much of a difference.

Originally Posted by cgpublic

There are a ton of variables that come into play when comparing a Blu disc vs. a UHD disc, beginning with the source and how the content and respective discs were mastered.

Secondly, remember that independent of the content, a 4K TV presents the content in 4K.

Furthermore, your perception of the resolution, e.g., the amount of detail, can vary widely dependent upon the distance you are seated from the screen along with your TV settings, e.g., gamma, brightness, sharpness, etc., and the settings for your X800, e.g., picture settings, resolution/upscaling, etc.

And we haven't even touched on HDR, which does not apply in this case.

The bottom line is that for certain discs, a comparison of Blu vs. UHD specific to image detail may appear negligible at best, especially given the absence of HDR.

I have tried to play around with all of these settings, and I tried to pick discs that specifically referenced the additional detail provided by the 4K disc. I didn’t think the lack of HDR would effect the resolution? Also I’ve found that I have to increase the sharpness drastically on a 4k image, to match/surpass the detail on a regular blu. Any reason for that?

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

The Sony X-800 good for converting HDR to SDR? In what alternate universe?
The Sony X-800 does a terrible job at both converting HDR to SDR and upconverting HD to 4K.

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Panasonic I've read is best @ performing this act, both ways.

I mean, I understand that the Panasonic’s are the best at this, but they were simply out of the price range I wanted to be in at the time. I originally got an xbox One S on Black Friday for $220 Canadian, and the HDR—> SDR was horrible, my 4K discs looked much worse then a blu ray. At the time I was able to get the x-800 for the same price (a Black Friday deal) and the results were much better. Obviously if I went with a more expensive Panasonic, it would be better but compared to the Xbox, the Sony is much much better at this.