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Old 07-02-2017, 06:16 PM   #1361
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Sony's x800 good deals and prices Gots another major Electronic store scared. With a Promo Code now... the 4K Player is $139.

Thats with DV!

Lets See whats Sony's come back responce is?
Nice would be DV FW.

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Old 07-02-2017, 06:44 PM   #1362
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E6AtmosVuduDV, When did the LG player get the update to Dolby Vision? I just did some research and I couldn't find any LG 4K player that currently does Dolby Vision. You need to stop posting wrong information. A lot of people read these threads and all you're doing is confusing them.

Show me where the LG player got the update and I'll eat my skivvies. Otherwise please stop posting false information. You keep calling it the LG UP70 player. LG calls it the LG UP970 4K player. Are we both talking about the same player?
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Old 07-02-2017, 06:54 PM   #1363
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DV means DV Capable in usage. Like Sony DV TV's. DV really is just MetaData. Either the AV electronic item has DV Hardware or not. Your LG player used by your reference has the DV Hardware. With projected DV FW coming this summer. Maybe late July or August.
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DV means DV Capable in usage. Like Sony DV TV's. DV really is just MetaData. Either the AV electronic item has DV Hardware or not. Your LG player used by your reference has the DV Hardware. With projected DV FW coming this summer. Maybe late July or August.
Your posts are making it sound like the LG player already has DV capabilities. As of this post, it does not do DV.

Do you know what thread this is? The thread title says Sony UBP-X800 4K UHD Blu-ray player. Why do you keep bringing up the LG player in this thread? Go flap your gums all you want in the correct thread. If you want to talk about Sony players, this is the correct thread. Yes? No? Maybe?
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Old 07-02-2017, 07:07 PM   #1365
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Your posts are making it sound like the LG player already has DV capabilities. As of this post, it does not do DV.



Do you know what thread this is? The thread title says Sony UBP-X800 4K UHD Blu-ray player. Why do you keep bringing up the LG player in this thread? Go flap your gums all you want in the correct thread. If you want to talk about Sony players, this is the correct thread. Yes? No? Maybe?


Because the guy is frenetic on multiple forums and threads and posts random, nonsense constantly.


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Old 07-03-2017, 05:31 PM   #1366
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Best Buy x800 refurbs now $164.99.




The price was lowered by Best Buy two days after I placed my order. I called today for a price adjustment, and was denied . UPS actually delivered it while I was on hold with Best Buy, how about that. Also, know this, I found a review on Best Buy's site about the horrible packaging, you can add me to that too, not even half of the original packing was in the box, not even any bubble wrap around the player, the remote was just thrown in without any protection either, leaving the UBP-X800 to bounce around while being shuttled about by UPS. It also seems to be a refurb by the Geek Squad, not a Sony refurb, had I known this, I may not have bought it. Oh well, time will tell ! Perhaps I should actually be telling all of this to Best Buy !
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Old 07-03-2017, 05:35 PM   #1367
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So some questions, does this player have HDR and Dolby Vision? Also how important is DV?

What are the 15 movies you can choose from for free? The site wont show unless you register.

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Old 07-03-2017, 06:29 PM   #1368
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So some questions, does this player have HDR and Dolby Vision? Also how important is DV?

What are the 15 movies you can choose from for free? The site wont show unless you register.
It has hdr but not dv.

The movies I can't remember them all but I know a few are...

Magnificent 7
Underworld
Ghostbusters (new one)
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Old 07-03-2017, 09:15 PM   #1369
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The price was lowered by Best Buy two days after I placed my order. I called today for a price adjustment, and was denied . UPS actually delivered it while I was on hold with Best Buy, how about that. Also, know this, I found a review on Best Buy's site about the horrible packaging, you can add me to that too, not even half of the original packing was in the box, not even any bubble wrap around the player, the remote was just thrown in without any protection either, leaving the UBP-X800 to bounce around while being shuttled about by UPS. It also seems to be a refurb by the Geek Squad, not a Sony refurb, had I known this, I may not have bought it. Oh well, time will tell ! Perhaps I should actually be telling all of this to Best Buy !




Well, even though I purchased the UBP-X800 as refurbished, I was still able to chose two 4k movies from the Sony site for free. Happy about that part at least. The player itself looks brand new, no scuffs, no scratches. So, off to get it connected to the home theater, hope everything goes well
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Old 07-03-2017, 11:35 PM   #1370
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It has hdr but not dv.

The movies I can't remember them all but I know a few are...

Magnificent 7
Underworld
Ghostbusters (new one)
I very sorry to ask this, something that probably has been discussed before in this thread but I honestly don't know where to look for this info. but is Sony planning to update this player so it can play content with DV? because as far as I know DV can now be added as a software update, right?

Thank you for your time
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I very sorry to ask this, something that probably has been discussed before in this thread but I honestly don't know where to look for this info. but is Sony planning to update this player so it can play content with DV? because as far as I know DV can now be added as a software update, right?

Thank you for your time
This is a mystery. Sony is playing it close to the vest if they are planning an update.
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Old 07-04-2017, 01:32 AM   #1372
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Well, even though I purchased the UBP-X800 as refurbished, I was still able to chose two 4k movies from the Sony site for free. Happy about that part at least. The player itself looks brand new, no scuffs, no scratches. So, off to get it connected to the home theater, hope everything goes well




Got it connected, beautiful picture, and I haven't even purchased a 4k projector yet. It is currently set for HDR-SDR conversion for my Epson Home Cinema 3500. I project a 130" picture and I can see improvement already over the picture given me by the Sony BDP-S7200, although it is a small improvement, it is noticeable. Can't wait to get a true 4K projector, but, will be doing a lot of research on 4K projectors first.
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This is a mystery. Sony is playing it close to the vest if they are planning an update.
Thank you for the answer, I hope Sony decides to release the update, the price of this player is far more friendly than the Oppo... and I want that Oppo so bad, but my wallet doesn't like it

Thanks again!
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:31 AM   #1374
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I very sorry to ask this, something that probably has been discussed before in this thread but I honestly don't know where to look for this info. but is Sony planning to update this player so it can play content with DV? because as far as I know DV can now be added as a software update, right?

Thank you for your time
Yes,Dolby Vision can be added as a software/firmware update if the player's chipset has enough processing power, and I'm sure the UBP X-800 has it.
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:44 AM   #1375
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Yes,Dolby Vision can be added as a software/firmware update if the player's chipset has enough processing power, and I'm sure the UBP X-800 has it.
Its not quite that simple.

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At the same time as the UBP-X800 was announced, Sony also revealed that their TVs using the X1 Extreme processor would be getting an upgrade for Dolby Vision. This good news was tempered by the realisation that the X800 wouldn't and couldn't support Dolby Vision, so was this an own-goal from Sony? It seemed fairly obvious at the time that Sony's decision to add Dolby Vision to certain TVs was taken very late in the day and the development of the X800 was too far along for such a significant change that would require a different chipset.
John Archer put out this inaccurate article about Dolby Vision being a software update to many devices which a lot of the media replicated, but the facts are that you have either a hardware enabled against particular DV capable SoC or you have Dolby saying that the SoC without this, has to have enough processing power to handle the software implementation to Dolby’s satisfaction. Sony has been totally quiet about this.
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:31 PM   #1376
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Lets Clear this Up.

Which Source published that Sony x800 do not have a Mediatek DV Chip. It seems Mediatek makes several Chip models each with a different MT number for Blu Disk Players.

Or have someone credible photo'D the Sony x800's Internal Board showing no DV Chip of any kind? Even in x800 with a June 2017 Built Date.



September 2015 news...
"Dolby has announced partnerships with*Realtek, HiSilicon and MediaTek*to provide Dolby Vision*System-on-Chips (SoCs) for multiple playback devices. Through these new SoCs, the Dolby Vision technology can be incorporated into*Ultra HD set-top-boxes, Smart TVs, Over-the-Top (OTT) online streaming, Ultra HD Blu-ray players and Digital Media Adapters (DMAs)."

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Old 07-05-2017, 12:14 AM   #1377
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Got it connected, beautiful picture, and I haven't even purchased a 4k projector yet. It is currently set for HDR-SDR conversion for my Epson Home Cinema 3500. I project a 130" picture and I can see improvement already over the picture given me by the Sony BDP-S7200, although it is a small improvement, it is noticeable. Can't wait to get a true 4K projector, but, will be doing a lot of research on 4K projectors first.
Earlier this year I had been looking into the possibilites of getting a 4K projector too, preferably a Sony to replace my current Sony 1080p PJ. But after doing some research I have come to the conclusion it's best to wait a couple of more years. The higher end Sony models do feature HDR but after reading various reviews, it seems it's not in the same league as most higher end 4K TVs. If I could afford one of those Sony short throw laser projectors however, I probably would have gotten one already.
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Old 07-05-2017, 03:44 AM   #1378
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Something I'm wondering about...

If Sony is putting the 'X1 Extreme processor' in it's newer TVs, maybe they will add a feature to the x800 which would allow 'pass thru' of DV metadata for processing on the TV?

I have an LG C6, but the feature *could* work similarly if the TV can already process DV.
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Something I'm wondering about...

If Sony is putting the 'X1 Extreme processor' in it's newer TVs, maybe they will add a feature to the x800 which would allow 'pass thru' of DV metadata for processing on the TV?

I have an LG C6, but the feature *could* work similarly if the TV can already process DV.
It's not just about metadata and being able to pass it along. The chip in the DV source device also does some processing of the video signal based on the handshake with the display.
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Old 07-05-2017, 10:13 AM   #1380
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Yep, it's not just about metadata because the DV layer itself on UHD Blu is only 1920x1080 resolution. The player must be able to combine the enhancement layer into the base layer to decode the proper 3840x2160 12-bit output, inclusive of said metadata.

There are a number of different dual layer encoding profiles within Dolby Vision (only one of which is actually a single layer solution) so that's partly where the need for all the processing grunt at the decoding end comes from.
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