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Old 02-26-2017, 11:20 PM   #161
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Unless you feel like waiting to see what's going to top what in 2017 - and you may be waiting a few months to get a great overview - you could either buy something really really expensive, or go with something a bit more entry priced for the format.

For me, I'm really leaning towards THIS player. I already have an Xbox One S, but there's a very minor sync issue. Some people may not notice it, but I certainly do (and others, I'm not alone). I believe this is because the Xbox One S is sending a 'bitstream' signal TECHNICALLY, but it still has to decode the UHD audio formats internally before sending the signal out... so you're not getting ACTUAL bitstreamed audio. It's a great way to test out UHD before diving in all the way, but this issue makes it a no-go as far as a dedicated player, at least for me.

This player, on the other hand, is $300, and Sony have a pretty excellent track record as far as their players go in the past. I have an Oppo BDP-83... and I've had it ever since it came out. Still works and all, but it's now a secondary player elsewhere in the house. I just found a Sony I once bought for $100 (some years after the Oppo came along) just has better overall playability/reliability. The thing was supported via firmware for much longer than I had expected, too, so I imagine buying this would be no different.

I guess there are some caveats, as reported, about what the streaming apps actually do. I guess they can do 4K but not HDR currently? If streaming is something you REALLY want in a player, look at something else. If all you care about is quality 4K disc playback... it's too early to tell since not enough people own this yet, but I imagine Sony will iron out any kinks, regardless of what they are. But, going through the whole 'ugh, we have to wait for firmware' process is part of being an early adopter in this format.

This player sounds like a great deal, considering you could spend at least double that amount for other players.
Thanks I just want to be able to watch Planet Earth 2 on my 4ktv. Everything else standard HD 1080P and stuff is cool with me for now. So 300 bucks for this seems like a good deal.
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Old 02-27-2017, 03:00 AM   #162
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Thanks I just want to be able to watch Planet Earth 2 on my 4ktv. Everything else standard HD 1080P and stuff is cool with me for now. So 300 bucks for this seems like a good deal.
Same here, man. I don't MIND spending $500-$600 for an Oppo player since I know they're amazing players, TYPICALLY, but the one they have out right now has some concerns and before spending that kind of money, I'd rather wait for some more standardization to the format(s) overall.
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:23 AM   #163
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I'm looking for a player that will easily connect to a 4K TV that doesn't have HDR. I remember reading there was a player coming out that could sense your TV and adjust automatically. If this is true -- what player made that claim?

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Old 02-27-2017, 04:36 AM   #164
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It will be the Samsung 9500 with TBA for release date.
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:39 AM   #165
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Old 02-27-2017, 12:11 PM   #166
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Amazon is temporarily out of stock. Anyone know if theyre taking a long time to fulfill orders on this?
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:10 PM   #167
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Amazon is temporarily out of stock. Anyone know if theyre taking a long time to fulfill orders on this?
not sure about that, but i see that in LA area, it's available for pick up at best buy tomorrow. Also estimated to be available on 3/10 at fry's.
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Old 02-27-2017, 04:21 PM   #168
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Just ordered from Best Buy and had free shipping to my house. Believe it should be here Wednesday unless their site lies to me
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Old 02-27-2017, 06:24 PM   #169
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Old 02-28-2017, 01:47 AM   #170
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The more I read the less I'm sure of! LOL

Earlier in this thread someone said the X800 specs list -- "HDR to SDR converter"

Is this for 4K TVs that do not have HDR or is this some other feature?

Thanks.

Really trying to get a player ordered before my Prime expires in March, but I want to be sure the player I get is compatible with a NON HDR set.

Apparently the Phillips wasn't.
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Old 02-28-2017, 02:38 AM   #171
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Does this Sony player support 4k HDR and 24p in it's Netflix app? I'm right now using a Roku Ultra for Netflix and Vudu but it does not support 24p and I don't want to buy the BDP-S6700 since I think I will be buying a 4k TV later this year. I'm looking for a device that will support 24p with 4k/HDR support in Netflix and Vudu and auto swtich to that refresh rate when detecting a video with a 23.976 fps signal.
You'll be wasting your money on the Sony UBP-X800 if you use for only streaming purposes. Your better off with your Roku Ultra. With your 1080p tv you will not notice any difference of picture quality when outputting a 1080p signal from this player and $60 bluray player.

At my local Best Buy, the physical media sections are going away. Now there is one row for movies and the music cds are gone. 4K movies discs already lost the format war. It's all digital now.

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Old 02-28-2017, 02:54 AM   #172
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If I want a device that supports 24p and 4k for Vudu and Netflix do people here agree that it is overkill to buy the Sony UBP-X800 blu-ray player for mostly streaming, with an occasional disc being played.
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Old 02-28-2017, 05:28 AM   #173
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At my local Best Buy, the physical media sections are going away. Now there is one row for movies and the music cds are gone. 4K movies discs already lost the format war. It's all digital now.
Reading this is like some nightmare, can't believe this is really what's happening...
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Old 02-28-2017, 05:58 AM   #174
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My local HMV stores are closing. My local Best Buy and Walmart stores are sending back lots of Blu-ray discs to their manufacturers, including 3D.
Their section is almost gone, the selection pathetic, the prices unrealistic.

I talk with the young staff working there; they all stream. Or they go in the jungle, the Amazon. Or check for BR deals here, or eBay.

3D TVs are gone, 4K Blu-rays is the Amazon department. HMV here didn't carry them. Walmart doesn't carry them, and Best Buy has only few and expensive, very. In loonie money. Our economy is not as rosy as we would like to be. Our trades, exports, imports, Japan, China, oil pipelines, timber, fisheries, mining industries, oil fields, etc., etc., etc., are in dire straits. Our money and stock market are like big snow flakes, melting above zero.

We're looking @ China for 3D and Japan for 4K and Europe for Hologram.
That, or Mexico near a quiet beach with blue water. Virtual 3D-reality and surround headphones. ...All in Dolby Atmos and Vision.

Soon we'll have 4K BR players for $119 (Black Friday) and more 4K BR discs from Amazon on sale @ Christmas. Then in 2018 I have no clue. ...eBay for older 3D HDTVs. Or maybe 2018-19 is the time for 4K/3D front projectors for less than $1,000? ...If only Disney ....

Sony will be there for us, they have to, the Z9 UHD TV Series with Dolby Vision.
They've got to deliver Dolby Vision 4K BR players. They must be working on it.

I like it, when the world goes to the Oscars and the stores are emptying their shelves to make room for more DVDs. ...And LPs too.

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Old 02-28-2017, 06:03 AM   #175
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At my local Best Buy, the physical media sections are going away. Now there is one row for movies and the music cds are gone. 4K movies discs already lost the format war. It's all digital now.
Hi Vor4, could you tell us where you're located?

Our store media area has shrunk by about 15% a year ago, but still has a major movie/tv show footprint. Music area has dropped about 50% in size.
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Old 02-28-2017, 01:47 PM   #176
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Yeah, my BB's media section has only shrunken slighlty. In the one row that is missing, there seems to be more dump bins and displays. These ironically have more movies in them than when there was that extra aisle there. To me, it looks more like BB is going for a bit of the walmart, big lots, etc.. look. They have the budget sales in certain spots, but still retaining there selection in the aisles. Frankly, I like that they went to alphabetizing all the films. There employees did not seem to know genre anyway.
People also put too much credence in the fact that "streaming will overtake the world!!" Physical media seems to be going more to the bargain bin in most places, which gives it more exposure than before. Even the dollar stores have blu-ray titles. That was not seen 5 or so years ago. The studios now have a way to make some of their money back through the bargain stores. IMO, BB will follow some of that trend, but will still keep their media section up. You can't sell players if you have no media and as far as I can see, there were plenty of players at BB and at Target too.
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Old 02-28-2017, 02:39 PM   #177
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One Best Buy in my area has a not too large movie section. Still plenty of options but it isn't what it used to be at all. Disappointing. The other one is a fairly large section for dvd and blu though.
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Old 02-28-2017, 03:04 PM   #178
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Still thinking of getting this but I'm not so sure anymore if I would want to replace my Panasonic UB900. The only reason I want the Sony, is that it would look nice with the rest of my Sony equipment.
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Reading this is like some nightmare, can't believe this is really what's happening...
There were lines in some Best Buy's this morning for the Doctor Strange steelbook. If physical media was dying you wouldn't have lines for it at all. No doubt streaming/digital is growing but when you buy the movies on Blu-ray it usually comes with a digital code anyway. People will always want a physical copy to own of any movie or music creation. It will probably go the way of being niche it will never go away. I think both can co exist fairly easily, it also helps the entertainment industry to be able to market movies and music with different target audiences (your steaming/digital audience and your physical media audience). If stores like BB, WM, Target didn't have physical media to sell what would the point of going to a store be for a disc player or a movie/cd or even a TV, what to get a digital code paper copy? lol. Stores will have poorer sales if that day ever comes.

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Old 02-28-2017, 05:48 PM   #180
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Reading this is like some nightmare, can't believe this is really what's happening...
And yet over here in da UK we've got supermarkets stocking 4K discs, never mind the high street regulars like HMV.
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