Terminator: Dark Fate SPOILER Discussion Thread - Page 14 - Blu-ray Forum

GC Riot · 10-30-2019, 04:54 PM

I must say that I was really impressed with the de-aging of Furlong and Hamilon in the first scene. Great stuff.

The Fallen Deity · 10-30-2019, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GC Riot

I must say that I was really impressed with the de-aging of Furlong and Hamilon in the first scene. Great stuff.

Yeah it's pretty impressive except for the glaring digital sheen on Hamilton's face which makes it look all shiny.

levcore · 10-30-2019, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

Does anyone else think that Gabriel Luna is absolutely fantastic in this?

I actually found him legitimately terrifying. By far my favourite performance in the film.

I got a serious Robert Patrick vibe of him.

Yes I thought he was brilliant too, perfect performance.

levcore · 10-30-2019, 05:10 PM

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Yeah it's pretty impressive except for the glaring digital sheen on Hamilton's face which makes it look all shiny.

Hamilton looked amazing, so did Arnie. Furlong looked like a cartoon but I guess it was only two brief shots.

The Fallen Deity · 10-30-2019, 05:12 PM

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Hamilton looked amazing, so did Arnie. Furlong looked like a cartoon but I guess it was only two brief shots.

I think Arnie looked the best imo. It's crazy how much he looked like his younger 90's self.

Geoff D · 10-30-2019, 05:59 PM

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I don't know the technicalities of the shockwave but IMO it's just poorly established. Very poorly.

So now you're using something mentioned in an interview that no-one would've ever noticed as yet another stick to beat its internal logic to death with? Mein gott. I almost have to admire such dedication. Almost.

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I think Arnie looked the best imo. It's crazy how much he looked like his younger 90's self.

Linda looked great, I didn't mind the couple of shots of Eddie as much as some folks did but yeah, that Arnie one was mind-blowing. His body shape isn't quite right, them using Brett Azar as they did (he looks a bit stocky, lol), but they absolutely nailed the face. I know that the young CG Arnie in Genisys also got a lot of wows from some folks but it always looked too false and too plasticky to me, this one here though is fookin' amazing.

NARMAK · 10-30-2019, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GC Riot

I must say that I was really impressed with the de-aging of Furlong and Hamilon in the first scene. Great stuff.

The very first shot of Linda was perfect but Furlong and Linda both had that shiny telltale look after that. Arnold looked probably more polished though overall. The techs getting better for sure but it's still a ways off yet to being perfect.

kylor · 10-30-2019, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

So now you're using something mentioned in an interview that no-one would've ever noticed as yet another stick to beat its internal logic to death with? Mein gott. I almost have to admire such dedication. Almost.

Not at all. It's something brought up in an interview which is in the movie, but was only brought to my attention via that interview. I decided to address it to leave no stone unturned. It practically beats itself to death, I'm merely trying to understand it. Thanks for admiring my thoughts.

The Fallen Deity · 10-30-2019, 06:06 PM

Is it actually Furlong? I could've sworn that I read that they used a double.

kylor · 10-30-2019, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NARMAK

The very first shot of Linda was perfect but Furlong and Linda both had that shiny telltale look after that. Arnold looked probably more polished though overall. The techs getting better for sure but it's still a ways off yet to being perfect.

The effects in the movie were decent, but not when it came to young Carl or the Rev-9, IMO.

The Fallen Deity · 10-30-2019, 06:14 PM

I found a lot of the non de-aging CGI really disappointing. Mainly the terminator stuff.

They look like they haven't been rendered properly. Very flat and cartoony.

When CGI from 1991 looks better, than we know that we have a problem.

NARMAK · 10-30-2019, 06:17 PM

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The effects in the movie were decent, but not when it came to young Carl or the Rev-9, IMO.

The reason i say Carl was better is because they had a lot more reference points to pull for Arnie with his 90s movies. Linda didn't have as much and neither did Furlong which is why i think he looks better

badfingerboogie · 10-30-2019, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

Is it actually Furlong? I could've sworn that I read that they used a double.

It's a kid as the double, Furlong is just the reference.

kylor · 10-30-2019, 06:24 PM

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The reason i say Carl was better is because they had a lot more reference points to pull for Arnie with his 90s movies. Linda didn't have as much and neither did Furlong which is why i think he looks better

I probably should take a longer look at young Carl but he really looked off to me compared to Sarah/John.

besi · 10-30-2019, 06:41 PM

Terminator-Dark-Fate-Schwarzenegger-Stunt-Mask-Pedro-Hernandez-Cruz.jpg

stunt mask looks awesome

kylor · 10-30-2019, 07:16 PM

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Hmmm what? Young Arnold looked totally off, in every way. Face, body shape, clothing, moving...

Have to agree. Though I think they nailed young Sarah and John, young Carl didn't look anything like Arnold IMO. Even Terminator Salvation did a better job of making a terminator look like Arnold. Even Genisys, as much as it sucks, still gets young Arnold looking good.

NARMAK · 10-30-2019, 10:03 PM

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Hmmm what? Young Arnold looked totally off, in every way. Face, body shape, clothing, moving...

Not to me at least. The face looked a lot like him in the beginning of Kindergarten Cop before he goes undercover clean cut and the body was apparently a double just like the Furlong scene had a kid used but the body double which i believe were posted in the very original thread earlier on has a physique close to Predator type Arnold.

To me, i honestly felt all of them were passable but you could tell for sure. Bar one shot right at the start on Linda to me.

darkness2918 · 10-30-2019, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

Does anyone else think that Gabriel Luna is absolutely fantastic in this?

I actually found him legitimately terrifying. By far my favourite performance in the film.

I got a serious Robert Patrick vibe of him.

Thinking back on it I agree, he was arguably the best part.

traths · 10-30-2019, 11:46 PM

I have no desire to see this. After T2, all the Terminator sequels have been trash.

kylor · 10-30-2019, 11:50 PM

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I have no desire to see this. After T2, all the Terminator sequels have been trash.

Save your money, brother. You've already seen this movie done better with T1 & T2.

10-30-2019, 06:14 PM	#271
The Fallen Deity Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Scotland 4K collection:348 Blu-ray collection:1226 DVD collection:112	I found a lot of the non de-aging CGI really disappointing. Mainly the terminator stuff. They look like they haven't been rendered properly. Very flat and cartoony. When CGI from 1991 looks better, than we know that we have a problem. Last edited by The Fallen Deity; 10-30-2019 at 06:31 PM.

10-30-2019, 04:54 PM	#261
GC Riot Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:Gothenburg, Sweden 4K collection:198 Blu-ray collection:472 DVD collection:21 Trading Score:37	I must say that I was really impressed with the de-aging of Furlong and Hamilon in the first scene. Great stuff.

10-30-2019, 06:06 PM	#269
The Fallen Deity Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Scotland 4K collection:348 Blu-ray collection:1226 DVD collection:112	Is it actually Furlong? I could've sworn that I read that they used a double.

10-30-2019, 06:41 PM	#275
besi Senior Member Member since:Jun 2009 Location:SIN CITY Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:77	Terminator-Dark-Fate-Schwarzenegger-Stunt-Mask-Pedro-Hernandez-Cruz.jpg stunt mask looks awesome

10-30-2019, 11:46 PM	#279
traths Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Dec 2012 Location:Minnesota 4K collection:246 Blu-ray collection:894 DVD collection:53 Trading Score:2	I have no desire to see this. After T2, all the Terminator sequels have been trash.

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