Back to the Future Trilogy 4K UHD (1985-1990)

[kenkraly2004]

Originally Posted by DJJez

Sparechange says its a minor upgrade and has some DNR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B3w...ature=youtu.be

Another BTTF release with some DNR problems but good to hear on the 4K it's not as heavy as it was on the old blu-ray transfers as was the case with the 2010 release.

[lgans316]

Based on my iTunes viewing, I would say parts 2 and 3 have some mild DNR but someone said these were shot on a different camera / film stock which has super thin grain. I didn't notice any waxiness but I have said earlier it can tend to look like Goonies w.r to close ups and texture.
The colour grading looks different to the previous release and part 3 has that slight golden yellow jaundice look pretty much throughout.

I can bet the discs are going to look pretty much the same.

[BenjaminG]

Originally Posted by DJJez

Sparechange says its a minor upgrade and has some DNR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B3w...ature=youtu.be

He literally says "a clean, very noticeable upgrade".

[TheHutt]

Too bad he just analyzed BTTF1 for now. Part 3 would be interesting (somehow I am worried about that "jaundice" look).

[lgans316]

Part 1 looked fine to me. I would rate it as the best due to presence of noticeable grain. Parts 2 and 3 - it has this Goonies look on some scenes (no waxiness).

[wildphantom]

How reliable is this guy by the low standards of YouTube ‘experts’ ?

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by DJJez

Sparechange says its a minor upgrade and has some DNR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B3w...ature=youtu.be

Even on iTunes in comparison to the old Blu Ray, this isn’t a minor upgrade. That’s not giving Universal much credit for what they’ve done here.

[gabacabriel]

Originally Posted by AlanUK

Amazon will know how many there is going to be made, how hard can it be to have a system where once all the items are sold no more orders can be placed and also things like this are only one per account, even people on here have said they have got multiple orders, they are not helping the situation just so they can sell them for profit on ebay, the people with more than one order should have these orders cancelled first

The thing that makes absolutely NO sense about this situation is that the orders are being cancelled so far ahead of release date (Dec?), because there will be some people who have placed a pre-order that will cancel ahead of time; one would expect then that those cancelled purchases be reallocated.

In other words, why cancel an order now if there is a chance a copy will become available before release?

Cancelling ahead of time like this would suggest the release has been canned - but that contradicts what has been talked about on this forum.

NOT happy.

[varo]

Originally Posted by gabacabriel

The thing that makes absolutely NO sense about this situation is that the orders are being cancelled so far ahead of release date (Dec?), because there will be some people who have placed a pre-order that will cancel ahead of time; one would expect then that those cancelled purchases be reallocated.

In other words, why cancel an order now if there is a chance a copy will become available before release?

Cancelling ahead of time like this would suggest the release has been canned - but that contradicts what has been talked about on this forum.

NOT happy.

example serve 500 units. They are only going to sell those 500, Amazon does not sell but those that serve them universal. At first, Amazon sold some units that did not correspond to those that truly universal would supply them, or even universal it is possible to communicate to Amazon that only a lower number could serve, hence the cancellations

[Fat Phil]

Originally Posted by varo

example serve 500 units. They are only going to sell those 500, Amazon does not sell but those that serve them universal. At first, Amazon sold some units that did not correspond to those that truly universal would supply them, or even universal it is possible to communicate to Amazon that only a lower number could serve, hence the cancellations

[mike962]

Originally Posted by lgans316

The colour grading looks different to the previous release and part 3 has that slight golden yellow jaundice look pretty much throughout.

I can bet the discs are going to look pretty much the same.

can you post screenshot from this scene to compare ?



and this

[ROSS.T.G.]

So now we measure a discs presentation off iTunes streaming lol.

Makes sense.

[lgans316]

See, many have watched this on iTunes. The disc will be superior, no one is going argue on that. However, don't think as if the disc is going look radically different. The iTunes stream is not an old shoddy divx rip.

I have said numerous times. Part 1 has grain. To me it looks the best of the bunch because Part 2 and Part 3 have less of it like Goonies. My concern was Part 3 which has this mild golden yellow tint. I have no idea if its meant to look like that. I will double check again tonight. Sold my BD trilogy already, so I can only compare against Amazon or Netflix HD streams.

I might buy the disc when the price drops to under a tenner each and if the discs are way superior which I doubt will be.

[mlabonte21]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

So now we measure a discs presentation off iTunes streaming lol.

Makes sense.

Streaming Audio/Atmos-- absolutely a huge difference to disc

Streaming iTunes 4K HDR/DV (EMPHASIS ON ITUNES--Not Vudu, Netflix, HBO Max, Disney+, etc..)-- I would say there is 99% parity to most eyes. You'd have to literally have them side by side and squint to even get a "....maybe this one is slightly better" judgement.

It's a pretty solid indicator of what to expect.

[evoof]

Originally Posted by mlabonte21

Streaming Audio/Atmos-- absolutely a huge difference to disc

Streaming iTunes 4K HDR/DV (EMPHASIS ON ITUNES--Not Vudu, Netflix, HBO Max, Disney+, etc..)-- I would say there is 99% parity to most eyes. You'd have to literally have them side by side and squint to even get a "....maybe this one is slightly better" judgement.

It's a pretty solid indicator of what to expect.

Does buying from iTunes give you the same quality as streaming from iTunes/Apple TV+/whatever?

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by mlabonte21

Streaming Audio/Atmos-- absolutely a huge difference to disc

Streaming iTunes 4K HDR/DV (EMPHASIS ON ITUNES--Not Vudu, Netflix, HBO Max, Disney+, etc..)-- I would say there is 99% parity to most eyes. You'd have to literally have them side by side and squint to even get a "....maybe this one is slightly better" judgement.

It's a pretty solid indicator of what to expect.

Agree.

On the audio front its a no contest but on the video side of things, they are close unless its projected. I have made such crass prejudiced comments about streaming until a few months ago and it was surprising to see how much the gap has been closed.

Back to the topic, I will check part 3 again for that mild yellow tint but all I am saying is the discs are NOT going to LOOK radically different.

[mlabonte21]

Originally Posted by evoof

Does buying from iTunes give you the same quality as streaming from iTunes/Apple TV+/whatever?

Yes, however you'll only get 4K HDR/DV playback on the Apple TV 4K or the Apple TV streaming apps on various smart TV platforms.

I believe you also get 4K playback depending on the type of iPhone you have.

Playback on iTunes via Windows or MacOS is HD only, however,

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by mlabonte21

Yes, however you'll only get 4K HDR/DV playback on the Apple TV 4K or the Apple TV streaming apps on various smart TV platforms.

I believe you also get 4K playback depending on the type of iPhone you have.

Playback on iTunes via Windows or MacOS is HD only, however,

Also heard that Apple are limiting bit rates on Apple TV app outside ATV box. Not sure if its true but one member at a different forum reported that dev tools is showing just 15 Mbps as opposed to the usual 25 Mbps average.

Another member said Hocus Pocus 4K DV DA on D+ on ATV was streaming between 30-40 Mbps as per the numbers reported on his enterprise grade router.

As usual take these with a pinch of salt.

[mlabonte21]

Originally Posted by lgans316

Also heard that Apple are limiting bit rates on Apple TV app outside ATV box. Not sure if its true but one member at a different forum reported that dev tools is showing just 15 Mbps as opposed to the usual 25 Mbps average.

Another member said Hocus Pocus 4K DV DA on D+ on ATV was streaming between 30-40 Mbps as per the numbers reported on his enterprise grade router.

As usual take these with a pinch of salt.

Thats a good point-- I've only ever used the proper Apple TV 4K box, so that's what I'll vouch for.

I doubt you'll get the same bitrates via the app on the TCL Roku for example.

[The Edge]

I told all of you that Universal does not care about this, one of their biggest franchises. What is it about the holy trilogy that Universal feels it must use DNR?