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Old 05-14-2021, 04:34 PM   #6461
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You just have to turn off HDR 10+ playback in the settings of the Panny 820. Once you do that, it will play in Dolby Vision.
Yep. When the Pannysonic players detect both of those flavours of HDR in both disc and display chain they will default to HDR10+. I've heard that OPPOs do the same thing, only you can’t turn off 10+ as they don’t officially support it.
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:39 PM   #6462
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The rise of II's reputation seemed to coincide rather nicely with the nerdification of all things pop culture, and the mainstream assimilation of nerds generally. Most of us who saw it in 1989 knew it wasn't nearly as successful as a film though. But I can imagine it would be an effective gateway drug to burgeoning time travel geeks who saw it as kids.

I mean, I was nine, so that should be me too, and while I appreciate the conceptual risks it takes and always enjoy the movie...better than the first one? Nah.

Incidentally, there's an episode of Mr. Robot that pays homage to part II in a rather sweet way, and I'd highly recommend any fans of these movies check out that show. The whole run really is up to its neck in BTTF references, but it doesn't become self-satisfied about it.
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:39 PM   #6463
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To join in this. II is my favorite, followed closely by I, then III.
My feeling exactly.
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:40 PM   #6464
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To join in this. II is my favorite, followed closely by I, then III.
This only correct answer. The absolutely insane, frenetic energy of the story combined with the intricate, “the stakes have never been higher” plotting, is nothing short of genius to me. I love that it never lets off of the pedal from minute one until the very end.
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:40 PM   #6465
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Gotta say, even though I was introduced to II and III with an incredibly fun triple-feature "trilogy screening" in 1990, at San Francisco's AMC Kabuki Theater... and enjoyed all three at the time... this trilogy has devolved for me to the point where I can only watch the first one. Like the JAWS franchise, I don't even acknowledge the existence of any others in my collection; I've placed the extremely-classic first BACK TO THE FUTURE (which I believe to be a perfect movie) on my shelf in a black UHD case with altered DVD art... while Parts II and III have been relegated to my hidden storage place along with Alien 3 and 4, and Jurassic Park 3 and 4.

But man I love that first BACK TO THE FUTURE so much. I've been watching my entire physical media collection in chronological order since November 2019 (before the pandemic!), and I'm just now up to 1985. Will be watching BACK TO THE FUTURE on Sunday; can't wait!
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:41 PM   #6466
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:41 PM   #6467
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Entire trilogy is awesome.
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:43 PM   #6468
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II is a mess. A fun enjoyable mess but a mess never the less. I too like III better. Just a better settled down film for me.
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:45 PM   #6469
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while I appreciate [Part II’s] conceptual risks it takes and always enjoy the movie...better than the first one? Nah.
I will grant that, because it so adroitly fuses the delightfully caffeinated chaos of II with the heart of III, the first film is objectively the overall superior film, but for sheer grin-from-ear-to-ear fun, II is my go-to ride every time.
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:46 PM   #6470
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Old 05-14-2021, 04:49 PM   #6471
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This, of course, does not change the fact that we are best friends.

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Old 05-14-2021, 04:52 PM   #6472
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III is too calm and sweet for my taste. The movies are at their best when Doc Brown is frenetic, and III mostly takes that away. It's still a decent movie, and a good end to the trilogy. But it is easily my least favorite.

Original, part II, part III. That's my order.
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Old 05-14-2021, 05:34 PM   #6473
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There's always going to be "he said/she said", and a lot of different stories being said about what really happened versus what they want the public believe happened. All I can say based on what I know and what I was told when my co-writer and I were conducting interviews with about 95% of everyone involved in the trilogy, when it came to Stoltz being let go, the people who were in the room when it happened said he looked relieved.

We asked Eric to participate and get his side of the story, but he gracefully ignored us.
You know, the more I read about Eric's involvement and realize that the movie was almost done by the time he was fired, the more I really want to see all of his footage assembled into a complete version of the film.

I know Bob Gale said he would be hesitant because people would troll Stoltz for giving a "bad performance" which I don't dispute, but I really think a lot of other people would be willing to give his performance a chance and appreciate it for what it is, particularly cinephiles and true fans of the series. I know there would be a lot of people out there who would loudly declare Stoltz to be better than Fox and declare that he should never have been fired.

It's such a unique situation and I really hope the parties involved change their minds and make such a thing happen in my lifetime because I'd love to see it.

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Old 05-14-2021, 05:38 PM   #6474
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You know, the more I read about Eric's involvement and realize that the movie was almost done by the time he was fired, the more I really want to see all of his footage assembled into a complete version of the film.

I know Bob Gale said he would be hesitant because people would troll Stoltz for giving a "bad performance" which I don't dispute, but I really think a lot of other people would be willing to give his performance a chance and appreciate it for what it is, particularly cinephiles and true fans of the series. I know there would be a lot of people out who would loudly declare Stoltz to be better than Fox and declare that he should never have been fired.

It's such a unique situation and I really hope the parties involved change their minds and make such a thing happen in my lifetime because I'd love to see it.
I have a feeling that Zemeckis, Gale, and Spielberg will all have to pass on before that ever gets serious attention from the studio.

Once all three are dead though, all bets are off.
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:25 PM   #6475
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III is too calm and sweet for my taste. The movies are at their best when Doc Brown is frenetic, and III mostly takes that away. It's still a decent movie, and a good end to the trilogy. But it is easily my least favorite.

Original, part II, part III. That's my order.
It's that sweetness that endears Part III to me more than II. II is a frenetic balls to the wall kinda movie, there are such high stakes in every act and that's why people dig it. Fair enough but I genuinely thought it was rather fatiguing last time out, that every act is practically like its own mini-movie and that by having such important events in each one it actually makes those stakes feel less important, if that makes sense, because I don't have time to reflect on the last one before the next one is thrust in my face. It felt more like a breathless technical exercise, still fun but lacking the heart of the first and third films. I love Part III for just being able to take a breather whilst still being engaged with the story and these characters, it's a gas that Doc and Marty's roles have basically been inverted. And that train finale, oh mai, still such a stunning set-piece 30+ years later.
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Old 05-14-2021, 06:26 PM   #6476
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For myself, really own I holds up well. I'm not saying I won't ever watch the sequels again, but...
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Old 05-14-2021, 07:35 PM   #6477
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I agree.

I love III. I think III is great.

II is a fractured movie that takes about 45 minutes to settle into the story it actually wants to tell. Once it gets to alternate 85 it actually has a story, but up until that the movie's a pretty looking narrative drag.
You either watched II for the first time when you were a kid or you didn't.
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You know, the more I read about Eric's involvement and realize that the movie was almost done by the time he was fired, the more I really want to see all of his footage assembled into a complete version of the film.

I know Bob Gale said he would be hesitant because people would troll Stoltz for giving a "bad performance" which I don't dispute, but I really think a lot of other people would be willing to give his performance a chance and appreciate it for what it is, particularly cinephiles and true fans of the series. I know there would be a lot of people out there who would loudly declare Stoltz to be better than Fox and declare that he should never have been fired.

It's such a unique situation and I really hope the parties involved change their minds and make such a thing happen in my lifetime because I'd love to see it.
wow. Have you met people tho?

how about on Twitter
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I love Part II, even if the third act is a lesser rehash of the original. It's a relentlessly paced ham sandwich of a film... and I like ham sandwiches.
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You either watched II for the first time when you were a kid or you didn't.
I don't understand what this is supposed to mean.

I did see II as a kid, along with the others in the franchise. I, as an adult, am able to watch a movie that I enjoyed as a child and note its strengths and weaknesses without needing to assuage my childhood self.
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