Back to the Future Trilogy 4K UHD (1985-1990)

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by Colson

For those wondering, here they are. These can even be printed on, if you havea printer that can print onto discs (that's how I made my Star Wars Despecialized disc set, for example).

https://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-100G...tronics&sr=1-1

Those are 100GB BDXL Blu-ray optical discs. It has been mentioned several times in Blu-ray.com forums that 100GB and 128GB BDXL Blu-ray discs will not work in standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray players. 100GB and 128GB BDXL Blu-ray discs are made for computer data backup and video files for playback on special BD-ROM computer drives that have the official BDXL logo. There is no official blank 4K Ultra HD BD-66 and BD-100 optical discs.

[Colson]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

Those are 100GB BDXL Blu-ray optical discs. It has been mentioned several times in Blu-ray.com forums that 100GB and 128GB BDXL Blu-ray discs will not work in standalone 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray players. 100GB and 128GB BDXL Blu-ray discs are made for computer data backup and video files for playback on special BD-ROM computer drives that have the official BDXL logo. There is no official blank 4K Ultra HD BD-66 and BD-100 optical discs.

Fair enough! I don't burn 4K Blu-rays myself. Thanks for explaining the technical details.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Aw, it's almost quaint reading a post like this. Further enumeration of this issue is very much frowned upon on this forum but the discs have been cracked and they are available in their entirety or as remuxed forms on torrents, file-sharing sites and whatnot. Here's another newsflash: whoever said you need to burn it to a disc to play the files? I get it that you're probably thinking about people selling actual pirate copies but it really doesn't work like that any more. Bless.

I have never even tried to make a backup copy of a store purchased Blu-ray movie since it is to much work and time involved with the renewable security system. 99% of consumers when they connect a 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray computer drive up to their computer cannot even play 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray’s legally since the SGX security is so tight. Purchase a high-end AMD motherboard, high-end Apple computer, or high-end X299 Intel motherboard and 100% of the time one is not allowed to play legal store purchased 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray movies because of the mandated SGX security. Then if one can find a rare Intel based motherboard and CPU that supports SGX they are not allowed to use a PCI-E slot based external graphics card and have to use the graphics card built on the motherboard.

For example I have a 4 year old X99 motherboard with 128GB of memory and my LG computer monitor supports HDCP 2.2 with HDMI 2.0. I can stream 4K movies online from online streaming companies, but I am not allowed to play native store purchased 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs unless I downgrade my CPU and motherboard to a select model on the market that has SGX security technology.

Perhaps maybe I need to rip my store purchased 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs to a 16TB hard drive using special software so that I can legally play the 4K Blu-ray’s back on the computer that I purchased. I wish some company would release a authorized software solution to SGX security technology so that one can play store purchased 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs back on any high-end computer released in the last 4 years.

[nick4Knight]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

AACS is a renewable security system. All a studio needs to do is release the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray movie with a new version of AACS and that movie is 100% secure until maybe many months later after release date a hacker is able to break the encryption keys in order to copy the movie.

Therefore if Back To the Future were to be released on 4K with new version of AACS encryption keys that movie would be secure on release date.

Not an expert but the fact they don't do what you proposed speaks to a reason they can't play cat and mouse with the pirates. Regarding compliance, compatability with playback/devices. And so once the pirates hacked the 4K UHD protection initially it was all over henceforth.

[toliveanddie]

Originally Posted by welcometothepartypal

That's exactly what I did when HBO offered a free weekend to entice people subscribe. I would choose the slow speed option on my VCR so I could put three movies on one cassette. I think the BTTF cassette also had Return of the Jedi and Fletch.

our BTTF part 1 VHS recording was joined by Conan the Destroyer and Rambo part 1. pretty sure my dad set it to record sometime at night and just caught whatever movies were playing back to back to back. he did that many many nights and we had shelves of movies like that.

on a sad note. I haven't seen BTTF 1 on anything better than 480p in the last 30 years so a 4k viewing for me would be HEAVY ! This is an Automatic buy for me.

and I would like to throw my two cent proposal for a Dirty Dancing 4k release.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

I have never even tried to make a backup copy of a store purchased Blu-ray movie since it is to much work and time involved with the renewable security system. 99% of consumers when they connect a 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray computer drive up to their computer cannot even play 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray’s legally since the SGX security is so tight. Purchase a high-end AMD motherboard, high-end Apple computer, or high-end X299 Intel motherboard and 100% of the time one is not allowed to play legal store purchased 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray movies because of the mandated SGX security. Then if one can find a rare Intel based motherboard and CPU that supports SGX they are not allowed to use a PCI-E slot based external graphics card and have to use the graphics card built on the motherboard.

For example I have a 4 year old X99 motherboard with 128GB of memory and my LG computer monitor supports HDCP 2.2 with HDMI 2.0. I can stream 4K movies online from online streaming companies, but I am not allowed to play native store purchased 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs unless I downgrade my CPU and motherboard to a select model on the market that has SGX security technology.

Perhaps maybe I need to rip my store purchased 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs to a 16TB hard drive using special software so that I can legally play the 4K Blu-ray’s back on the computer that I purchased. I wish some company would release a authorized software solution to SGX security technology so that one can play store purchased 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray discs back on any high-end computer released in the last 4 years.

As I said, quaint. My old-ass computer is going on for 11 years now and with the aid of a separate drive and some software (won't mention which) I've been ripping BDs for years, not in any kind of industrial or illicit capacity but when I needed to take screencaps for reviews, do my own custom remuxes with original audio tracks, re-order the branching files to create a custom cut e.g. Aliens CBC cut, stuff like that. No, I don't do 4K rips because it's beyond my old girl but people can and do do it all the time, you keep looking at this from the 'legal playback' point of view on a PC and I'm here to tell you that all this ripping malarkey strips all that away.

[CptHowdy87]

Never cared much for the first BTTF. I think I've seen it maybe 3 times.

BTTF2 I've watched at-least 20 times. It's one of those movies I recorded on VHS when I was young and re-watched countless times. It re-caps and references the first movie enough times that I just don't ever feel the need to watch the first one.

So, I re-watched BTTF2 just the other day on blu-ray and man did it look bad. Must be an ancient transfer. It actually really hurt my enjoyment of the movie. Very happy it's getting a 4K release.

[SpaceBlackKnight]

Uni's statement of the BDs being based on 4k masters is a load of marketing horseshit. They were based on the HD masters created the 2002 DVD, only with grain removal and processing nasties applied to give it a "fresh" appearance. In fact, there's an uncompressed theatrical DCP of BTTF floating around on some sites that looks very similar to the 2002 DVD master, but obviously in native 2k and without the grain removal and processing the BD exhibits.

Weather the upcoming UHDs will be proper 4k remasters with grain intact, or uprezed versions of the BD masters with even more processing is anyone's guess. I'll come back to see how Universal really handled these once the controversy smoke clears after release.

[nick4Knight]

Originally Posted by SpaceBlackKnight

Weather the upcoming UHDs will be proper 4k remasters with grain intact, or uprezed versions of the BD masters with even more processing is anyone's guess. I'll come back to see how Universal really handled these once the controversy smoke clears after release.

Yeah, again though, it would be unprecedented that a 4K UHD from Universal catalog would not be from a 4K OCN scan at this point in the format. As to how they handle the transfer in terms of HDR, DNR and filtering in general? Is another story. We hope for the best. We hope for Casino, Big Lebowski, Scarface and Field of Dreams type treatment... Hey we can dream

Hopefully Bob Gale had nothing to do with it, as it seems likely he had a LOT to do with the 2K master from back in the day.

[Indiana Jones]

Originally Posted by batman2000

when next year do you think we will hear more about the 4k blu rays?

How could anyone here possibly know? your guess would be just as good as anyone else’s.

[kwisatzhaderach]

Originally Posted by CptHowdy87

Never cared much for the first BTTF. I think I've seen it maybe 3 times. BTTF2 I've watched at-least 20 times.

Strange.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by nick4Knight

Yeah, again though, it would be unprecedented that a 4K UHD from Universal catalog would not be from a 4K OCN scan at this point in the format. As to how they handle the transfer in terms of HDR, DNR and filtering in general? Is another story. We hope for the best. We hope for Casino, Big Lebowski, Scarface and Field of Dreams type treatment... Hey we can dream

Hopefully Bob Gale had nothing to do with it, as it seems likely he had a LOT to do with the 2K master from back in the day.

Bob Gale signed off on the original unfudged transfers but yeah, he also approved what was done to them for the BD pass so we'll just have to hope for the best. A new transfer is not in question, whether Universal half-arse it like they did the Jurassic Parks is still a mild concern i.e. the bigger the franchise the more they feel the need to fiddle with it.

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

Can any of you name any 4K Blu-Rays that are vastly inferior to the original regular Blu-Rays?

Terminator 2 is the only one I can think of.

[jh901]

Originally Posted by The Edge

Terminator 2 is the only one I can think of.

There are a handful of embarrassing and shameful UHD releases, irrespective of a less embarrassing and shameful 1080P alternative. A turd in the punch bowl ruins either, so which is "better" has no practical meaning.

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by nick4Knight

Lol @ above...

Anyway. I never had to bother about any bootleg VHS in my childhood as my father purchased BTTF in 1990. Think it was a 1988 australian (village roadshow) VHS -- Now, when it came to VHS I only had like 15 actual copies I owned by 1996 -- Most my collection was recorded off rentals at blockbuster, but I also rented lots of them still for the better PQ during school holidays for my favourites.

I still have the boxes of VHS rips though. Some were in LP doubled up onto 5 hour tapes.

My first VHS copy of Back to the Future was the 1989 re-release. I remember a visit with my grandma in April 1990 where she took me to the cinemas to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, then I remember us going to the mall and I made it my mission to get BTTF on VHS to take home. The animated title shot was amazing to me as a 9-year old boy.

I now have an MCA Home Video-sealed 1986 VHS copy of BTTF on my shelf, Along with the 1988 E.T. VHS, also sealed -- even though I use the Blu-ray and excited to purchase the 4K UHD Blu-ray next year!

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by batman2000

when next year do you think we will hear more about the 4k blu rays?

I'd say Summer 2020.

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by SpaceBlackKnight

In fact, there's an uncompressed theatrical DCP of BTTF floating around on some sites that looks very similar to the 2002 DVD master, but obviously in native 2k and without the grain removal and processing the BD exhibits.

Weather the upcoming UHDs will be proper 4k remasters with grain intact, or uprezed versions of the BD masters with even more processing is anyone's guess. I'll come back to see how Universal really handled these once the controversy smoke clears after release.

1. Where, where?!

2. If you've seen the new Scarface and Schindler's List discs, for example, you can be assured Universal will handle these right. Universal has been doing 4K very well.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by The Edge

1. Where, where?!

2. If you've seen the new Scarface and Schindler's List discs, for example, you can be assured Universal will handle these right. Universal has been doing 4K very well.

I'm hoping beyond hope that it's a true remaster from the original camera negatives with no errors to effects no edge enhancement no major grain reduction. it gives me hope for films like army of darkness and yes mallrats these two titles are only a matter of time. it's too bad Jurassic park the fast and the furious films and I think the mummy trilogy are doomed to have the crappy edge enhanced and grain reduction transfers on uhd blu ray.

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by batman2000

I'm hoping beyond hope that it's a true remaster from the original camera negatives with no errors to effects no edge enhancement no major grain reduction. it gives me hope for films like army of darkness and yes mallrats these two titles are only a matter of time. it's too bad Jurassic park the fast and the furious films and I think the mummy trilogy are doomed to have the crappy edge enhanced and grain reduction transfers on uhd blu ray.

The Mummy UHD's look gorgeous. Extremely detailed and filmic.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

The Mummy UHD's look gorgeous. Extremely detailed and filmic.

is there even a sliver of hope for Jurassic park and the fast and the furious films?