Back to the Future Trilogy 4K UHD (1985-1990)

[martydmc12]

Originally Posted by emailking

I guess the point is that this is what you would see on the ride if you didn't look around?

Like for a VR movie, if you were going to project it in 2D you would obviously have to cut out a lot of footage. Obviously this is not 360 degrees, but maybe you can't see the whole screen at once either.

Going on 30 years since I was on the ride so yeah not like I remember. I'm just trying to think of an explanation for this.

Based on memory, I think you could see close to 90% of the screen while sitting inside the DeLorean. While not 360 degrees, but OMNIMAX, which is basically a curved IMAX screen. I know if you peek around the side of the car, you could see all the other DeLorean's and passengers.

[martydmc12]

Originally Posted by Bond84

I still don't understand why Universal would replace that ride with The Simpsons.

Quite simply because it's a franchise Universal can no longer exploit with more movies, therefore making it obsolete to the theme park. I know some Universal executives hated the ride because of that specifically. When I was doing research for the book "Back to the Future: The Ultimate Visual History", I came across an article in the Orlando Sentinel from the mid-to-late 1990's, and an exec complaining that it needed to go even then, because it was based on a dead franchise.

A lot of people were unhappy to see it go, including Ride film director Douglas Trumbull. When I interviewed him for the book, he said he had pitched the idea of Back to the Future... The Ride Part II, hoping Universal might consider doing that, but the studio was hellbent on getting rid of it.

I know the last time I went on it was probably in 2003 or 2004 in Hollywood, and it was already in a lot of disrepair. A lot of upkeep would have be needed for it to stay relevant in terms of tech, and Universal would have had to spend a lot of money and time upgrading it.

I think the saddest thing for me was how Universal absolutely refused to sell off any of the props and signage from the Rides, and had most everything destroyed. I know theme parks aren't crazy about letting the general public be able to own pieces of their attractions, but to pretty much get rid of everything like they did, especially when I know they had offers, a lot of that history and hard work gone forever.



However you can't expect anything different from Universal. When they were installing the MIB ride at Universal Studios Orlando, the tender of Doc's Time Train was destroyed, not by accident, but because it was on the way. Rather than physically move it, it was decided to just scrap it instead. This wasn't just some piece created for the theme park, this was the actual screen-used time train from Back to the Future Part III. The theme park people pretty much destroyed a piece of film history, just because they could.

The engine still resides at the Orlando park, but was almost changed into a Harry Potter train. The persistent rumor is when Universal executives were giving J.K. Rowling a tour of the park, they told her they were going to take the train and change it over into a Harry Potter train, which she wouldn't allow. She also insisted that it be fully restored, which make me believes this story might be true, because the train was eventually moved and put into a better location for display, and was restored, yet the DeLorean was not. Why they would restore the train over the DeLorean gives me reason enough to believe that someone of power intervened.

As to why Universal chose the Simpson's, I do remember in my research and interviews they were also looking at another IP, but I honestly can't remember what it was. I do find is hilarious now that Disney own's Fox, that there's no way Disney is going to allow their biggest theme park competitor keep the license for the Ride when it expires in 2028. All that money and time Universal puts into properties they don't even own, like Harry Potter and The Simpson's, just absolutely amazes me. They have a library of incredibly important films that easily translate into attractions, like E.T., Jaws, Jurassic Park and BTTF. They got rid of E.T. at Universal Hollywood, the Jaws boat ride in Orlando, and all of BTTF. There was even a strong rumor that had not a new Jurassic Park movie had not been made before Jurassic World, Jurassic Park The Ride also would have met it's end. Universal isn't in the "Ride the Movies" business anymore, they're just in the "ride" business, which is really a shame.

When it comes to BTTF, while I agree it was becoming dated and needed a massive refresh, I think they took it away far too soon, and should have waited until 2015, after the 30th Anniversary, which was a big event for the franchise.

[BenjaminG]

Originally Posted by martydmc12

I think they took it away far too soon, and should have waited until 2015, after the 30th Anniversary, which was a big event for the franchise.

Thanks for the info. As an aside, I love the book - an absolute treasure.

I visited the ride at Universal Studios Japan in 2012 and again in 2015. Although it was barely a decade old (the theme park was opened in 2001), it was obviously built to the same spec as the U.S. version which was probably state of the art... in 1991. It was noticeably jarring and uncomfortable to ride compared to the smoother, newer attractions and made my now wife feel quite ill. But I went a number of times because there were zero lines and I knew it wasn't going to be around for much longer. I think I went on the Minions ride when I last visited in 2018, but it was completely unmemorable.

[r9800pro]

Robert Downey Jr and Tom Holland in Back to the future - This is heavy! [ deepfake ] - YouTube

Tom Holland as Marty Mcfly - Back to the future [ deepfake ] - YouTube

[Gacivory]

I hate those face changing videos.

[r9800pro]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

I hate those face changing videos.

Me too tbh and it is insulting somehow.

[Resettito]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

Marvel andand Comics are were the money is...4+ years into the format. No Boonies. No bttf, no breakfast club, no dirty dancing. Just marvel at the mar Ellis marvel movies. By. Gg.

The Goonies is coming in June ;-)

[Poya]

I agree with the above. The Simpsons Ride is not as good as BTTF. It’s a product of a time when The Simpsons stopped being the best cartoon on TV (South Park has that honor now) and it shows. BTTF could’ve easily been updated like Star Tours was to avoid 2015 being dated but Universal just doesn’t care about its legacy. And after Zemeckis and/or Gale die, BTTF will undoubtedly be rebooted by Universal. They’re just waiting.

[huntauk]

Originally Posted by Resettito

The Goonies is coming in June ;-)

Do you have a source? Be great to upgrade and get rid of another dated vc-1 encode of a classic film

Edit - sorry forget this, I’ve just scrolled to see the Goonies thread.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by Poya

And after Zemeckis and/or Gale die, BTTF will undoubtedly be rebooted by Universal. They’re just waiting.

Unless their kids say otherwise.

[Poya]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

Unless their kids say otherwise.

Tell that to P.L. Travers’ living relatives.

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by r9800pro

Robert Downey Jr and Tom Holland in Back to the future - This is heavy! [ deepfake ] - YouTube

Tom Holland as Marty Mcfly - Back to the future [ deepfake ] - YouTube

delet this

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by Poya

Tell that to P.L. Travers’ living relatives.

Disney would HAVE to have gotten permission from Travers's literary estate. There's no other explanation for why a sequel was made.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mary-...122304492.html

[nick4Knight]

A BTTF reboot would be peak cringe, gladly by the time they both die I'll be even less caring about sacred ideals. BTTF still holds that position as of now... I wouldn't trust any direction it's taken in. Updated. Throwback (ripping off the original). Totally new direction -- I think of like the way Jumanji was taken from a mysterious-edged kids fantasy into a millennial slapstick/cheesy comedy in Welcome to the Jungle.

I liked the formula there... enough... But I couldn't see liking no "updated" Back the to Future treatment

[martydmc12]

Originally Posted by Poya

Universal just doesn’t care about its legacy.

Most of the studios don't care about their legacy. Just look at how they treat the majority of their library titles, how it takes independent companies like Criterion, Arrow, Kino, and Shout! to take important catalog titles and give them proper transfers. There should be a no reason a studio as large as Universal should let one of their Academy Award winning films like "The Deer Hunter", and let a third party company release a 4K special edition. I understand it from the business side when it comes the decreasing sales of physical media, and the lower-end catalog titles are perfectly fine to let other companies take the risk of releasing them on Blu-ray. But to take some of their golden gooses and treat them no better than sub-par mostly forgotten films, that's where I have issue. Don't get me wrong, I love that Shout! got "The Deer Hunter', and they're probably going to do a much better job than what Universal would do, but it just doesn't make sense.

When it comes to the theme park vs. the studio, they are two completely different entities, run by entirely different divisions. While they do come together at times on major events and releases, like I said in another post, titles like BTTF, Jaws, E.T., Jurassic Park and the Classic Universal Monsters are what made that studio what it is today. There should have been no reason for Universal Orlando to take away the Jaws Ride, yet they did. From my understanding, they never did replace it with anything, and it's just an empty unused area till this day. Then you look at the majority of attractions at the park, and it's all other non-Universal properties like Harry Potter (WB), The Simpsons (Fox), Men In Black (Sony), Transformers (Paramount). The E.T. Adventure and Revenge of the Mummy are the only two Universal properties in the park in Florida, not counting the Islands of Adventure park.

Originally Posted by Poya

And after Zemeckis and/or Gale die, BTTF will undoubtedly be rebooted by Universal. They’re just waiting.

If they really wanted to, Universal could find a way to remake it, call it Back to the Future, and have it be about time travel. They couldn't use the same names and characters, and the plot would have to very different, this all due to the contracts the Bob's have with the WGA. It would also be a very messy fight with Amblin, and Universal doesn't want to make problems between them and Spielberg, as he's still too valuable to the studio.

As far as I know, Universal knows the IP is off limits for the foreseeable future, and no one is even considering doing anything with it, other than more merchandise, the upcoming musical, and stuff like the 35th Anniversary 4K discs.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

I hate those face changing videos.

Still better than the Irishman.

[Resettito]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Still better than the Irishman.

ILM's work in The Irishman is phenomenal, this wouldn't hold up in a higher quality, fine for YouTube and small screens.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by r9800pro

Robert Downey Jr and Tom Holland in Back to the future - This is heavy! [ deepfake ] - YouTube

Tom Holland as Marty Mcfly - Back to the future [ deepfake ] - YouTube

I think the DNR is still more distracting than the face swapping

[lemonski]

Originally Posted by r9800pro

Me too tbh and it is insulting somehow.

I’ll tell you exactly how - they’re defacing someone else’s art.

[Acer2010]

On the 1080p Blu-ray of BACK TO THE FUTURE (1985), the end credits were squished. Hopefully, that won't be the case on the UHD.