Back to the Future Trilogy 4K UHD (1985-1990)

[Tardis99]

Does anyone think definitive improved 4K versions will come along soon, maybe for the 40th in 2025? I'm tempted to buy the current 4K boxset but if the wider consensus is better picture versions will be out in the near future then I will hold fire and wait.

[starmike]

Originally Posted by Markgway

I'll take that another step furthererer and say include the original stereo tracks.

Until then Universal can kiss my hairy Scots arse!

Well, with today's technology it's not impossible to get the stereo tracks merged with the 4K video.

EDIT: Maybe they're not adding the stereo track because of the slight clipping where Doc says "You made it!"

[dmollenauer]

Originally Posted by Tardis99

Does anyone think definitive improved 4K versions will come along soon, maybe for the 40th in 2025? I'm tempted to buy the current 4K boxset but if the wider consensus is better picture versions will be out in the near future then I will hold fire and wait.

Not a friggin chance. Hell, the odds of Uni fixing the Chroma error in the 3rd reel of part 1 is somewhere between slim and none. At best your looking at single releases of each movie or new steelbooks etc.

[emailking]

Here's a puzzle

[Show spoiler]How does Jennifer end up on the porch in the final timeline? What happens?

Ok there's ripple effect in these movies, so maybe it doesn't "happen" at all. But we can make it more precise. If there's an alien satellite trained on that exact location from 1885 all the way until October 23, 1985 and the next do you go to check the footage, what does it show?

Does it show she just materializes on the porch on the middle of the night? Perhaps so.

Does it show Marty and Doc, returning from 2015, put here there? If so, let's imagine the satellite starts recording them, what does it show? Do they just disappear at some point? Because they're not there at the end of Part 3. And they definitely do not go back to 1955 because the almanac has already been burned and so, in this footage, it's the normal 1985 not 1985-A.

I think you need a materialization (of Jennifer) out of nowhere, a dematerilalization (of Marty, Doc, Einstein, and DeLorean), or just say it's a plot hole I guess.

[Markgway]

Originally Posted by starmike

Well, with today's technology it's not impossible to get the stereo tracks merged with the 4K video.

Yeah, but why should I have to -- and pay for the privilege?

EDIT: Maybe they're not adding the stereo track because of the slight clipping where Doc says "You made it!"

Nah, it's because they're a$$holes who don't care about the movies they sell.

[BlueberryWaffles]

Finally picked up this set after a good coupon deal from Target. I forgot that the packaging on this one is a digibook. Is it recommended to swap these out to a standard case? I was just flipping through my 2016 "Complete Adventures" set and noticed that a few of the discs have scratches despite barely any use.

[vector72]

Originally Posted by BlueberryWaffles

Finally picked up this set after a good coupon deal from Target. I forgot that the packaging on this one is a digibook. Is it recommended to swap these out to a standard case?

It's highly advisable to protect the discs using CD envelopes or just swapping the packaging altogether. If your discs aren't scratched from the factory, consider yourself lucky.

[mulscul]

I went on the Deluxe site for theater releases, looks like Universal is re-releasing some movies for some flashback screenings and I noticed that Back to the Future is one of them and the strange thing is the date on the CPL, its dated 2021.

Is there a newer transfer now that may eclipse the 4K? Or is it when the existing 4k transfer may have been downloaded onto a DCP file?

http://www.deluxecdn.com/dcinema/pro...729_140228.pdf

If you can't open it, here is the CPL line copied from the sheet along with the other 3 movies on this drive

SMOKEYANDTHEBANDIT_FTR-1-1977_F_EN-XX_US-PG_51_2K_UP_20120309_UDS_OV 12ece16a 01:35:48 01:34:01 159 GB


BACK TO THE FUTURE UUID RUNTIME CREDIT SIZE
BackToTheFuture_FTR-3-1985_F_EN-XX_US-PG-INT-TD_51_4K_UP_20210623_USP_IOP_OV c6a6eaa7 01:56:08 01:51:41 195 GB


AMERICAN GRAFFITI UUID RUNTIME CREDIT SIZE
AMERICAN-GRAFF_FTR-1_S_EN-XX_US-PG_50_2K_UP_20110211_UDS_OV 819c91fe 01:52:19 01:50:13 176 GB


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[Youre My Boy Blu!]

Michael J. Fox and Christopher Loyd Reunite at Comic Con

Not sure if this was posted somewhere else in the forums.
I did a quick search under Michael J. Fox but nothing returned, so I figured I'd
share it here.

Back to the Future's Michael J. Fox and Christopher Lloyd's emotional reunion goes viral - YouTube

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by mulscul

I went on the Deluxe site for theater releases, looks like Universal is re-releasing some movies for some flashback screenings and I noticed that Back to the Future is one of them and the strange thing is the date on the CPL, its dated 2021.

Is there a newer transfer now that may eclipse the 4K? Or is it when the existing 4k transfer may have been downloaded onto a DCP file?

http://www.deluxecdn.com/dcinema/pro...729_140228.pdf

If you can't open it, here is the CPL line copied from the sheet along with the other 3 movies on this drive.

Now Available: A new, easier way to track and manage your content and keys.
https://www.bydeluxe.com/content-and-key-manager | 1-800-99-FILMS | ddchelp@bydeluxe.c

Does anyone if this and back to the future 2 are new versions without the awful grain reduction? Also did you see higher gb than current uhd blu ray discs.

[carl76]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu31

Not with this trilogy. For some reason they don't like to break it up with individual releases.

The first film was released as a separate steelbook in the UK.

[Cognoscente]

Originally Posted by philthehip

It was a bit complicated because even though he was still on set he was essentially a prop for other actors to get their coverage shot. So even the 6 weeks he was there included him acting without being shot. He must have known in the back of his kind what was going on.

He had his fair share of coverage.

Eric Stoltz in Back to the Future (All Scenes Explained) - YouTube

[-JKR-]

Originally Posted by Cognoscente

He had his fair share of coverage.

Eric Stoltz in Back to the Future (All Scenes Explained) - YouTube

That's not coverage. Those are (mostly) stills. However, I don't know whether the story about Stoltz getting little coverage while filming is true.

[Markgway]

So basically MOST of the movie was re-shot.

[Cognoscente]

Originally Posted by -JKR-

I don't know whether the story about Stoltz getting little coverage while filming is true.

It was only during the final week of filming, once they got the go-ahead to go with Fox, that they didn't bother filming Eric.

[-JKR-]

Originally Posted by Cognoscente

It was only during the final week of filming, once they got the go-ahead to go with Fox, that they didn't bother filming Eric.

That makes much more sense, yeah.

[Cognoscente]

If Stoltz was completely disregarded, they wouldn't have taken as many photos of him. Even the first parking lot scene alone, there are 18 photos that I've seen. In the history of Hollywood firings, there are either no photos of the fired actor on set or there are only a few photos.

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by Markgway

So basically MOST of the movie was re-shot.

According to the official making-of book, which has specific dates for everything, goes into tremendous detail about pretty much every day, and seems pretty warts-and-all, and not full of PR fluff...

- They shot for 32 days with Stoltz over 7 weeks out of a planned 14 week schedule. They shot roughly half the film with him.

- Stoltz was fired during the lunch break of a night shoot at Puente Hills Mall.

- The rebooted production started filming with Fox a few days later and the entire shoot totaled 107 days. Excluding the days with Stoltz, that's about 70 days of filming with Fox, which makes sense if they got through half the film the first time in 32 days, and then had to film all those scenes again, as well as the scenes they never go to the first time.

https://www.amazon.com/Back-Future-R...dp/0063073048/

[Cognoscente]

Crispin Glover in 2019: "We had gotten close to being done when they replaced the lead actor. I was almost done and just had a little bit more to shoot."

https://anthemmagazine.com/qa-with-crispin-glover-2/

An interviewer talking to Crispin in 2006: "That’s always kept hush-hush that Eric Stoltz shot most of Back to the Future as Marty McFly before Michael J. Fox replaced him."

https://undertheradarmag.com/intervi...terview_122006

Crispin in 2012: "He was fired right before Christmas vacation."

https://www.avclub.com/crispin-glover-1798229277

MJF in 2012: "I was doing Family Ties, and just before Christmas break, Gary Goldberg called me over to his office. I said, ‘Am I getting fired?’ He had this script, and he told me that six or eight weeks earlier he had been asked if I was available and he’d said no. They hired another actor and it didn’t work out, so they came back to me. Was I prepared to do both the show and a movie at the same time? All of a sudden, I came back from Christmas break and I went to work on Family Ties, and then that night I was standing in the parking lot with flaming tire tracks running between my legs — and my whole world changed."

https://parade.com/104611/dotsonrade...-j-fox-extras/

[James Luckard]

Originally Posted by Cognoscente

Crispin in 2012: "He was fired right before Christmas vacation."

https://www.avclub.com/crispin-glover-1798229277

Glover's memory seems to be slightly off. Probably because he wasn't filming with Stoltz after Christmas. So, technically, I guess it happened over Glover's own, much more extended Christmas break from the shoot.

According to the making-of book, which details pretty much every day of production, they shot with Stoltz well after the brief Christmas break. They took advantage of the public schools being closed for Christmas to shoot at Whittier High School right up until Christmas and then finished the year filming the scenes of Marty waking up in his underwear in Lorraine's bedroom.

They shot the departure from 1955 scenes with Lloyd and Stoltz at the clock tower and in Griffith Park the first week of January 1985 and then moved to Puente Hills Mall the second week.

Stoltz was with them until a night shoot starting on Thursday Jan 10, 1985 at Puente Hills Mall. Stoltz was fired when they broke for lunch that night, at 10:30pm. (For night shoots, a "lunch" break still needs to happen, for contractual reasons)

They filmed the rest of that night and another night at the mall, Friday Jan 11, 1985 into Saturday morning, with just Lloyd doing his half of the scene, describing how the flux capacitor works, to an absent Marty, and wrapped at 430am on Saturday.

The book also says that Glover and Tom Wilson were called into Gale's office that Friday, before Lloyd's night shoot at the mall, and told of Stoltz's firing.

Lloyd returned to the mall on Monday night and filmed alone again, then Fox joined him on Tuesday.

I highly recommend the book, it's truly encyclopedic. The writers had access to all the production documentation held by Zemeckis and Universal, so there's really no detail overlooked.