Back to the Future Trilogy 4K UHD (1985-1990)

[Nosferatu31]

They look great and i really thought about purchasing them but no inclusion of the bonus disc was a deal breaker. I'll stick with my Best Buy exclusive steelbook set.

[bongozoid]

Originally Posted by batman2000

Are these customs or official if official finally awesome box art.

Geoff made them himself using recycled metal from an actual DeLorean! The discs are also the special collector's edition director's TV cuts featuring Eric Stoltz as Marty McFly in all 3 movies.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by bongozoid

Geoff made them himself using recycled metal from an actual DeLorean! The discs are also the special collector's edition director's TV cuts featuring Eric Stoltz as Marty McFly in all 3 movies.

I wasn’t suggesting he made them I was suggesting someone else might have.

[TheHutt]

Here some more photos of them nifty steels:

[Indiana Jones]

Originally Posted by batman2000

I wasn’t suggesting he made them I was suggesting someone else might have.

Geoff got them from Amazon.it and they are official releases, Zavvi were offering them for £24.99 each a few months ago.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

Geoff got them from Amazon.it and they are official releases, Zavvi were offering them for £24.99 each a few months ago.

Wow so it’s an official product.

[Uptight]

Has Universal modified BTTF sound effects over time?

This trailer proves this happened with the 2nd movie (for the 2020 Blu-ray and UHD, which I checked against the 2010 disc and 4x3 DVD):

Back to the Future Part II | Opening Scene in 4K Ultra HD | The Future of 2015 - YouTube

After 2 minutes, notice the reused footage from the Delorean flying.

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Now, for part 3, at 18 minutes Doc fires a gun (twice), and Marty goes back to 1885.

I checked the same scene with multiple sources...

1) The 4x3 DVD
2) The old 2010 Blu-ray

3) The remastered 2020 Blu-ray
4) The UHD (all tracks)
5) Even 2 different portuguese dubbings, both older than the 2002 DVD release.

The results were:

1) and 2) = the same
3, 4 and 5 = the same

But... 1-2 are different from 3, 4 and 5.

Proof is in this 25 second-clip with all these tracks (download and switch between them), except the ones from UHD, which I don't need to put there since they sound the same as the 2020 BD:

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Universal did something similar as WB with the 4 Batman movies (1989-1997). For the 2019 BD (and the UHD), Warner modified the sound effects, and didn't include the former tracks.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Batma...230456/#Review

But this time, it was probably the other way around for part 3 (?). They enhanced that sound effect.

The old discs probably changed this (at least in this scene; haven't checked others from the trilogy, like the one in 1985-A from Strickland firing that shotgun ("eat lead, slackers!"), and I remember that sound effect was kinda artificial, and more crude for the old dubbed audios).

Finally, there's this change I didn't know until recently:

Back to the Future Movie Change - "Marty, you made it!" - YouTube

In the original version it sounds like the audio is over modulated because Doc did slightly shout the line. And in the Blu-ray it feels like they just leveled the audio.

[starmike]

Originally Posted by Uptight

Finally, there's this change I didn't know until recently:

Back to the Future Movie Change - "Marty, you made it!" - YouTube

In the original version it sounds like the audio is over modulated because Doc did slightly shout the line. And in the Blu-ray it feels like they just leveled the audio.

This is one of the reasons why I started ripping LD audio years ago. It's not that his voice is leveled, it's that his enthusiasm when he says "you made it!" is lower. Even saying "Marty!" is very different.

I read that the LD audio was from one print type, and the 4K was from another (35 vs. 70mm). Not sure if that's true.

[PonyoBellanote]

I know Hollywood thinks this is illegal but I so wish there was a site for things like these where original audio is available to download and use for your own personal copies.

[Uptight]

Originally Posted by PonyoBellanote

I know Hollywood thinks this is illegal but I so wish there was a site for things like these where original audio is available to download and use for your own personal copies.

If the distributors were not lazy and used to remaining space in those discs to put such tracks...

If they want to put remixes, fine, at least put the original track there, too.

But no, all these people care about is forcing their revisionism down your throats... and they don't even tell you about. I discovered by chance yesterday that BTTF 3 was modified because I was checking these out and suspected in the past what physical media offered us was not 100% faithful to what we saw on TV or old media.

And this isn't the first time something is odd/wrong with the BTTF trilogy:

https://www.angelfire.com/film/bttf2/

Back when the DVDs were first released, Universal had to do a recall due to framing issues.

If they modify a few sound effects most will not know unless comparing to other sources. Also, reviews rarely do that.

[david_blu]

The biggest change for me is the Delorean reveal in the first film, when the engine kicks in before coming out of the truck it was very loud to get your attention now its just slightly loud. Similar to Doc's lines at the same point mentioned above.

[IndyMLVC]

If and when prices come down on huge size hard drives, I'd much rather start ripping laserdisc tracks and syncing them up with the BD/4k files. It can be a true slog, especially when there are missing frames, as I've done over a dozen of them. But, in the end, the results are worth it. The audio on Laserdiscs was always utterly phenomenal.

[stvn1974]

I am usually not bothered by remixed audio unless it is completely butchered. I agree that all original tracks should be included on the discs. I am watching this right now because I can't stand Cameron's remixed soundtrack.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by starmike

This is one of the reasons why I started ripping LD audio years ago. It's not that his voice is leveled, it's that his enthusiasm when he says "you made it!" is lower. Even saying "Marty!" is very different.

I read that the LD audio was from one print type, and the 4K was from another (35 vs. 70mm). Not sure if that's true.

So basically on all three films they altered the audio ruining the true experience of the films sound effects and all and not in the correcting sense more in the George lucas sense of changes or the James Cameron sense of audio changes.

[starmike]

Originally Posted by batman2000

So basically on all three films they altered the audio ruining the true experience of the films sound effects and all and not in the correcting sense more in the George lucas sense of changes or the James Cameron sense of audio changes.

Um, that's not what I said. It's a Star Wars issue where you had two mixes of the same movie on initial release. I don't know anything about what was done to II and III.

[starmike]

Originally Posted by PonyoBellanote

I know Hollywood thinks this is illegal but I so wish there was a site for things like these where original audio is available to download and use for your own personal copies.

If only

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by starmike

Um, that's not what I said. It's a Star Wars issue where you had two mixes of the same movie on initial release. I don't know anything about what was done to II and III.

Who would know the history of the audio of back to the future 2 and 3?

[Ghisy]

Originally Posted by Ghisy

I finally got a reply from Zavvi: basically, they don't give a *** and won't help me with a replacement. That's what I call great customer service there...

Is there any way to contact Universal Pictures in Europe?

I found a way to get in touch with Universal in the UK (since I own the UK steelbook box set) and wrote to them 1 month ago. No reply whatsoever.

I guess these companies like our money but don't give a *** about customer service once we bought their overpriced physical media, huh?

[AxeYou]

Originally Posted by PonyoBellanote

I know Hollywood thinks this is illegal but I so wish there was a site for things like these where original audio is available to download and use for your own personal copies.

I’ll PM you with some resources.

[crissrudd4554]

Originally Posted by Uptight

Finally, there's this change I didn't know until recently:

Back to the Future Movie Change - "Marty, you made it!" - YouTube

In the original version it sounds like the audio is over modulated because Doc did slightly shout the line. And in the Blu-ray it feels like they just leveled the audio.

There’s this vid too which has a BTTFII comparison too.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LFo1vaDk-SA