Back to the Future Trilogy 4K UHD (1985-1990) - Page 51 - Blu-ray Forum

Agent Kay · 05-24-2020, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovewaterslides

Let's not jump to conclusions considering it's coming from a highly compressed YouTube video but I thought it'd still be interesting to share:

Part I: https://screenshotcomparison.com/com...2653/picture:0
Part II: https://screenshotcomparison.com/com...2654/picture:0
Part III: https://screenshotcomparison.com/com...2655/picture:0

The sequels especially look promising detail wise. Can't wait to see those from the actual discs.

Compression has nothing to do with anything, that's DNR.
And a lot of it

Boland · 05-24-2020, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Compression has nothing to do with anything, that's DNR.
And a lot of it

Are you sure you're not looking at the mouseover shots? Thats DNR...

The new shots look like grain with YouTube encoding. Thats just what YouTube does to grain.

Bluyoda · 05-24-2020, 10:40 AM

I am definitely going to wait for reviews everywhere before I buy another set.
The BDs are a DNR fest, and these screenshots look just as bad.
Universal has had such great releases in UHD. Please don't mess this up, and give us beautifully filmic transfers.
Is it Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale, who insist on DNR here?

Geoff D · 05-24-2020, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Compression has nothing to do with anything, that's DNR.
And a lot of it

Agreed. There's still some shitty compression in the action shots (surprise surprise, it's youtube) but underneath that the grain has gone. Erased...from existence! That Clara shot in III does look yummy though.

But I'm not panicking just yet (even though I wouldn't trust Bob Gale to run a piss-up in a brewery), as we've no idea what the mandate was for preparing these sources for the youtube piece.

NotASpeckOfCereal · 05-24-2020, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Heh. Time travel always works how the filmmakers want it to work, even if that means mixing and matching from different theories, but as long as there's an emotional logic to what's happening then people just go with it. The thankless task of trying to unpick it falls to us nerds.

Heh.

Resettito · 05-24-2020, 01:46 PM

Jesus christ people, YouTube quality is some of the worst compression you'll find online, it annihilates grain most of the time, wipes it off. Are some of you seriously discussing this?

jerclay · 05-24-2020, 02:17 PM

Here we go again with YT comparisons, as if 2001 wasn’t enough... why would Universal, who just released a beautifully looking Jaws among others, eff up this one?

Nicolawicz · 05-24-2020, 02:28 PM

Well, I guess Jaws was supervised by Spielberg.

jerclay · 05-24-2020, 02:55 PM

At least there’s no point in making any assumptions based on YT video.

guile · 05-24-2020, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Resettito

YouTube quality is some of the worst compression you'll find online, it annihilates grain most of the time, wipes it off.

Exactly! That's why after looking at the YT clip of 4K Jaws, I immediately turned it off! That's not my 4k!

Hardback247 · 05-24-2020, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by guile

Exactly! That's why after looking at the YT clip of 4K Jaws, I immediately turned it off! That's not my 4k!

Can I please see the clip, out of curiosity?

Jeyl · 05-24-2020, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardback247

Can I please see the clip, out of curiosity?

They were watching this.

I can say with some assurance that youtube does tone the quality down a notch.

Hardback247 · 05-24-2020, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeyl

They were watching this.

Jaws - Anniversary Collector's Edition (2000) Teaser (VHS Capture) - YouTube

I can say with some assurance that youtube does tone the quality down a notch.

That's not from the new 4K transfer.

Boland · 05-24-2020, 11:53 PM

If you want to see what YouTube does to grain.

Compare

https://paulcamerondp.com/portfolio/...eason-3-promo/

To

Goodsuc81 · 05-25-2020, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hardback247

Can I please see the clip, out of curiosity?

WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW · 05-25-2020, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Boland

Are you sure you're not looking at the mouseover shots? Thats DNR...

The new shots look like grain with YouTube encoding. Thats just what YouTube does to grain.

but it's the mouseover that are supposed to be the new ones

WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW · 05-25-2020, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Resettito

Jesus christ people, YouTube quality is some of the worst compression you'll find online, it annihilates grain most of the time, wipes it off. Are some of you seriously discussing this?

yes, but not 100% 100% utterly gone like this with no hint of anything
but it is true that youtube does make a mess of things, that just looked so large scale smoothed it seems at least possible it had a lot of DNR

Jay Mammoth · 05-25-2020, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Boland

If you want to see what YouTube does to grain.

Compare

https://paulcamerondp.com/portfolio/...eason-3-promo/

To

Westworld Season 3 Teaser Trailer (HD) - YouTube

Damn the macroblocking on that still alone.

jayman3 · 05-25-2020, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Except that Endgame broke it's own rules, so no.

And recently Agents of SHIELD has its own explanation of time travel:

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As she points out, "Just being here, walking down the street, we could've already changed the course of events." Fortunately, Deke insists that's not something to worry about. "The butterfly effect is just one aspect of the Multiverse branch theory," he explains. "Personally, I subscribe to the timestream idea... Imagine time is a stream, right, and we were sticks that were thrown into it." The stream isn't impeded by one or two sticks, but if too many are added, it creates a dam and the direction of the water is changed forever. "So, as long as we can avoid that," Deke adds, "we should be able to splash around a little bit and we're all good."

clortho · 05-25-2020, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Hardback247

On Netflix, Part II seems to use the new master now. See how you feel about it.

Are you referring to the post-controversy version? I'm not doubting you, but can anyone else attest to this?

If you're talking about the botched version, I had it on in the background the other day and wasn't entirely paying attention but it didn't "pop out" to me as a remaster.

Now that we know that it's a version Universal supplied them for the overseas market, it just seems like whatever print they used was different.

In general it seems odd that if they had been provided a 4K version for Part II that they wouldn't have been provided the new scans for all 3 movies.

05-24-2020, 10:40 AM	#1003
Bluyoda Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Dagobah Home Theater Gallery:103 4K collection:160 Blu-ray collection:1383 Blu-ray reviews: 263 Trading Score:4	I am definitely going to wait for reviews everywhere before I buy another set. The BDs are a DNR fest, and these screenshots look just as bad. Universal has had such great releases in UHD. Please don't mess this up, and give us beautifully filmic transfers. Is it Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale, who insist on DNR here? Last edited by Bluyoda; 05-24-2020 at 05:19 PM.

05-24-2020, 01:46 PM	#1006
Resettito Special Member Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:57	Jesus christ people, YouTube quality is some of the worst compression you'll find online, it annihilates grain most of the time, wipes it off. Are some of you seriously discussing this?

05-24-2020, 02:17 PM	#1007
jerclay Power Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 4K collection:185 Blu-ray collection:208 DVD collection:5 Digital collection:16 Trading Score:7	Here we go again with YT comparisons, as if 2001 wasn’t enough... why would Universal, who just released a beautifully looking Jaws among others, eff up this one?

05-24-2020, 02:28 PM	#1008
Nicolawicz Special Member Member since:Jan 2011	Well, I guess Jaws was supervised by Spielberg.

05-24-2020, 02:55 PM	#1009
jerclay Power Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 4K collection:185 Blu-ray collection:208 DVD collection:5 Digital collection:16 Trading Score:7	At least there’s no point in making any assumptions based on YT video.

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