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Old 10-15-2020, 01:59 AM   #3801
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Does that apply to all televisions though?
Yes, I've switched off the processing options, but Warm 2 looks weird to me.
Maybe I just prefer the cooler look?

Maybe I can take a picture with my phone so you guys can see what I'm looking at...

Is there a particular scene on UHD that would be good for providing an example?
I have PREDATOR on UHD.
Any shots from that worth capturing?
certainly most by far are more natural and accurarte set to warm 2

just give it a few days and if you swithc back it will look weird and very icy cold late evening blue with your old settings; the same also goes for how insanely bright many set SDR, dial it way down on brightness and soon it'll seem normal
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Old 10-15-2020, 02:04 AM   #3802
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Seems all my favorite movies, Halloween, Star Wars, and now BTTF all have either controversial or disappointing 4K transfers.
Thank you.
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Old 10-15-2020, 02:24 AM   #3803
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oh no not again!

yeesh why do ALL of the biggest of all titles get ruined!!!!!

Jurassic Park, BTTF, Star Wars

can't they just leave that crap for streaming? or at least just the blu-ray remasters if UHD also comes out?? the whole point of physical media a nice, nautral, not messed up look, if you want crap and wax you stream
Please stop
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Old 10-15-2020, 03:24 AM   #3804
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Then that right there points out a major failing on the TV industry, if they can't even agree on a naming scheme that makes sense. When I see cool, natural/normal, warm1, and warm 2, logic would dictate that natural is neutral, and warm 2 is the warmest, while cool is cool.

But I'm not sure all TVs are like that. My 2016 LG LCD UHD set just makes too many blu-rays look sickeningly yellow on warm 2, but skin tones look great in natural/normal, and way too cool on cool.
I bet you are just not used to normal color. For msot LG OLED sets Warm 2 is the one. I doubt 2016 would be an oddity. Maybe they were calibrated a bit more randomly back then but still seems unlikely, if possible.
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Old 10-15-2020, 03:35 AM   #3805
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Please stop
can't say I'm wrong about JP and SW
granted for BTTF I just went by some random person's post here, hopefully wrong but....
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Old 10-15-2020, 03:53 AM   #3806
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can't say I'm wrong about JP and SW
granted for BTTF I just went by some random person's post here, hopefully wrong but....
Those BTTF caps looks great, so I don't know why some people are doing so much drama.
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Old 10-15-2020, 05:35 AM   #3807
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I already own the Blu Ray set and only bought the 4k set because of the low price ($9.99). I may cancel if the first reviews aren’t positive and my set hasn’t shipped.
Has anyone's $9.99 BTTF orders even shipped? If you put the 4K digital copy codes up for sale for $10 you will probably get your $10 back within 5 minutes.
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Old 10-15-2020, 05:39 AM   #3808
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Has anyone's $9.99 BTTF orders even shipped? If you put the 4K digital copy codes up for sale for $10 you will probably get your $10 back within 5 minutes.
The $10 orders from Gruv are backordered.
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Old 10-15-2020, 05:48 AM   #3809
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Good Scott!
That's moderately heavy!
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Old 10-15-2020, 05:58 AM   #3810
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Has anyone's $9.99 BTTF orders even shipped? If you put the 4K digital copy codes up for sale for $10 you will probably get your $10 back within 5 minutes.
My order is still " Queueing" never got a delay e-mail either. To those who knows that theres is backordered, does your item status state that?

Also, you can still order it with the following info on the product page

"Pre-order
This product will be shipped to you for delivery on 10/20/2020"

They really need to change that if they are back ordered
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Old 10-15-2020, 06:37 AM   #3811
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Here we go with a screenshot comparison: (6 caps per film)
https://screenshotcomparison.com/com...7098/picture:3
For BTTF. I like this one: https://screenshotcomparison.com/com...7098/picture:3
to the left, look at the blown out whites on the chrome details and the lines on the notepad, much more easy to see in the 4K.
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Old 10-15-2020, 06:37 AM   #3812
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So the comments from the experts based on the screenshots are more or.less in line with my observations.

Filmic. Colour grading much better than seen before. That mild yellow push is due to very warm colour grading. Super fine grain on parts 2 and 3. There might have been some DNR but its done well aka grain managed

Now please give some credits to Universal.
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Old 10-15-2020, 06:38 AM   #3813
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My order is still " Queueing" never got a delay e-mail either. To those who knows that theres is backordered, does your item status state that?

Also, you can still order it with the following info on the product page

"Pre-order
This product will be shipped to you for delivery on 10/20/2020"

They really need to change that if they are back ordered
No but i did receive an email and a message on ebay directly from Gruv.
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Ok, so I’ve skimmed through Part II. And shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit, I don’t care what you picky people on here are saying - it looks FANTASTIC! �� So you say this has been scrubbed, but I have no reference so I can’t tell (like it was the DCP rip for Part I) if it has been scrubbed or it was film stock they filmed it on. And maybe it’s my blessing that The only thing I care about is if it looks filmic to my eyes. And you know what - it does! It has just enough grain to do just that! Of course the optical effects scenes are more problematic - but it’s the curse of 4K as we know it. Marty now has more justification than ever before to say “the shark looks fake”. But to me it’s all part of the game. As a stand alone point - because of different film stock the film looks so much sharper than Part I as well! So I’m pretty happy with the Part II. For Part I we at least had the DCP rip to go bu, but this here is a totally new game after the horrendous Blu rays. Give credit, where credit due!
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Old 10-15-2020, 07:20 AM   #3815
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My order is still " Queueing" never got a delay e-mail either. To those who knows that theres is backordered, does your item status state that?

Also, you can still order it with the following info on the product page

"Pre-order
This product will be shipped to you for delivery on 10/20/2020"

They really need to change that if they are back ordered
The orders of Gruv.com are " Queueing"
The orders of Ebay Gruv are back ordered
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Old 10-15-2020, 07:57 AM   #3816
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So the comments from the experts based on the screenshots are more or.less in line with my observations.

Filmic. Colour grading much better than seen before. That mild yellow push is due to very warm colour grading. Super fine grain on parts 2 and 3. There might have been some DNR but its done well aka grain managed

Now please give some credits to Universal.
I'll give credits to Universal for this.

Got my Nordic set yesterday. Same great packaging as the Nordic set of Hitchcock btw. Watched the first movie last night, and thought it looked very good. I might be biased, since the original movie is on my personal top 5 of all time. The details are amazing, and the grain is fine, much like The Blues Brothers on UHD.

Like the UHD of The Blues Brothers, the sound on the original BTTF is outstanding. It's extremely directional and powerfull, right from the beginning, and I don't remember the surrounds being engaged like this, on any other version of the movie, I've seen and owned. Very impressed by this.

Quick note about the picture. Some months ago Netflix had BTTF on their service, and I watched it and was surprised by the amount of grain it had. It looked different to the movie on the old BD, which is to say, the Netflix version looked better. I sampled some scenes from my old BD at the time, and came to the conclusion that not only did the Netflix version have more grain, but it was also more detailed. I thought, that that transfer was new and would surely be the basis of the new 4K transfer we have today. It might be, but the UHD doesn't look like that fine Netflix version. The grain is reduced, but it's there, on the UHD and the details are way beyond what the Netflix version could muster, that's for sure.

I sampled some scenes from the included BD last night, and I could be wrong, but I thought it looked better than the old BD. The new BD has a new copyright (2020) on the disc, but again, I just quickly sampled some scenes, it was late and I was tired.
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:22 AM   #3817
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That is very interesting that netflix was using the new 4k master though, great find .
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:30 AM   #3818
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Can anyone confirm English 2.0 audio?
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Part 1:
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Disc Size: 90,100,752,254 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo: 0.7.5.9

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00040.MPLS
Length: 1:56:02.288 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 78,531,741,696 bytes
Total Bitrate: 90.24 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-H HEVC Video 73198 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / HDR10+ v1 Profile B / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 5242 kbps (6.68%) 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / 4000nits / Dolby Vision FEL / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio English 4661 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 4213 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)
DTS Audio Spanish 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
DTS Audio French 768 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 42.301 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 24.916 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 34.944 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 0.347 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 1.302 kbps
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Old 10-15-2020, 08:36 AM   #3820
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dolby digital audio english 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 khz / 192 kbps
dolby digital audio english 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 khz / 192 kbps / dolby surround
And I suppose these are not the audio commentaries?
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