Back to the Future Trilogy 4K UHD (1985-1990)

[ij72]

Originally Posted by sockableclaw

Every time I see a picture of The Tall Man I go "BOYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!" I just can't help myself.

Yeah, it works even better when you mentally read the post in Angus Scrimm's voice, and add "BOYYY" to end of each sentence.

ex. "...and replying to every question and whim. .. BOYYYY"


To keep this post on topic, count me in on the group of Ebay GRUV orders that has shipped, left the Ohio warehouse, and is taking whatever slow path to Wisconsin that Media Mail would take..

[lkmg]

Watched the unboxing video and the hoverboard looks cheap. 😓

[phobicsquirrel]

Originally Posted by Batman90

Will they gladly toke my money but won’t ship what I paid for. If they didn’t charged me then I wouldn’t have an issue. I’ve sent 2 emails and they won’t respond to any of them.

I was charged too. This is why i don't pre-order! I love the price, if it get them, but pre-orders should be sent so you get them on release.

[Maxwell Everett]

It's important to stress that this chroma issue is incredibly minor while watching the film--at least for me. It was almost impossible to see front projected in 4K, but was a little more visible on my 4K laptop screen. But looking at the channels separately will show you a bit better what's going on here:

[jerclay]

Originally Posted by Maxwell Everett

It's important to stress that this chroma issue is incredibly minor while watching the film--at least for me. It was almost impossible to see front projected in 4K, but was a little more visible on my 4K laptop screen. But looking at the channels separately will show you a bit better what's going on here:

[Show spoiler]

So how on Earth could this shite even happen?! Minor or not, the studio which invested tons of money in a new 4K remaster should not allow these things to happen. Period. As an AV enthusiast and a fan of the movie, I will let them know about this eff up anyway I can.

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Damn! Damn damn! Universal needs to fix this promptly and issue a replacement program. The curse of BTTF continues.

If only there were SOMEONE here on these forums who had tried to warn everybody here about Universal’s crappy job...

[jerclay]

Originally Posted by The Edge

If only there were SOMEONE here on these forums who had tried to warn everybody here about Universal’s crappy job...

Well, it didn't take you too long to revert to "I told you so" routine dude But the matter of fact is you didn't and you couldn't know. Your inital beef with Universal was about grain management, and not about that 10 minute glitch. But the grain management here is nothing to complain about (for the most part).

[Maxwell Everett]

Originally Posted by jerclay

So how on Earth could this shite even happen?!

It's a bit of a puzzle. We're not even sure what's causing it, to be honest. Is it a mistake that occurred when the o-neg was being laser scanned for this restoration in red, green, and blue light? Was there something wrong with the blue pass? Not sure.

Perhaps back in '84/'85, DP Dean Cundey asked the lab to push process these scenes if he thought they might be underexposed and they were just naturally noisy as a result. The blue layer of the film emulsion is the grainiest, so it would increase first if that happened.

I know back in the early to mid '80s, labs were also experimenting with faster ECN-2 processing at higher temperatures to the chagrin of DPs. However, push processing is done by reducing the speed of the machine and increasing time in the developer. Thing is, if the chemistry gets out of whack, grain suffers. For instance, the film gives off bromide during development and if that builds up it can screw up the blue layer--especially the lowest density blue where exposure was at a minimum, like in shadows.

Maybe someone was trying to "fix" the blue channel's excessive noise or graininess by softening or smearing it during the grade? Again, not sure.

If you look at this Kodak paper Effects of Mechanical & Chemical Variations in Process ECN-2, on page 39 it says that Blue spots or blotches can be caused by "Excessive pressure applied to the emulsion (e.g., soft-touch tire pressed on film by feedstand brake)."

That's unlikely to be the cause (because it would only be on one frame), but it's interesting to speculate.

[The Edge]

Originally Posted by jerclay

Well, it didn't take you too long to revert to "I told you so" routine dude But the matter of fact is you didn't and you couldn't know. Your inital beef with Universal was about grain management, and not about that 10 minute glitch. But the grain management here is nothing to complain about (for the most part).

No, my beef was about the use of DNR. The thing everybody here complained about when it came to the 2010/2015 Blu-ray sets, but not doing with this new set. They’re letting it pass. Hypocrisy is afoot.

[teatrelius]

Originally Posted by sockableclaw

You all think that Universal will offer a replacement program for this "chroma glitch" or will we probably just have to live with it?

[DragoonClawNZ]

Not sure if anyone's posted shots of the AU/NZ release but just got mine today. Was gonna get it release day but the JB Hi-Fi here hadn't received the sets then (somehow).

The outer box is a bit odd with not having any open sides, have to unfold it either top/bottom to get it out. Thankfully they went with standard cases for the release here.








Watched the first film tonight and glad to finally see a release without that ugly DNR/sharpened look the last BD release had, so I can finally retire the DCP/HDTV rips.

[MadmanMark]

Originally Posted by sockableclaw

You all think that Universal will offer a replacement program for this "chroma glitch" or will we probably just have to live with it?

Is the chroma glitch on the BD too or just the UHD

[jerclay]

Originally Posted by Maxwell Everett

It's a bit of a puzzle. We're not even sure what's causing it, to be honest. Is it a mistake that occurred when the o-neg was being laser scanned for this restoration in red, green, and blue light? Was there something wrong with the blue pass? Not sure.

Yeah, but 10 minutes? Why not the whole movie...

[david_blu]

Does the glitch appear on the old Blu ray?

[jerclay]

Originally Posted by MadmanMark

Is the chroma glitch on the BD too or just the UHD

BD too. It's the new master after all.

[sockableclaw]

Originally Posted by teatrelius

Lol well I remember back when BTTF first came on DVD there was a framing issue for BTTF 2 and they offered a free disc replacement then so I was holding out hope that maybe maybe, just maybe, they might do it for this.

[jerclay]

Originally Posted by sockableclaw

Lol well I remember back when BTTF first came on DVD there was a framing issue for BTTF 2 and they offered a free disc replacement then so I was holding out hope that maybe maybe, just maybe, they might do it for this.

Well, if I'm not the only person bugging them about it, then maybe

[nick4Knight]

Originally Posted by slimdude

I am not going to stress myself out over every little imperfection in the video (if there's any) and put myself into an early grave. My set have arrived today, and I'm going to enjoy these movies in glorious 4K UHD, Dolby Vision and Atmos with a bowl of delicious hot buttered popcorn, stress free.

I didn't check subsequent pages if this opinion got lambasted. But I did this, too. Saw the negative comments starting but my experience of the viewing of the first wasn't any less impressive than II or III. With III being the best picture of the set, I'd say. I'm gonna spin it in DV asap (australia released a week later for some reason), maybe that's where the true issue lies idk.

You got reports in here about minor stuff thats about as egregious as the transfer of Iron Man, Thor etc. And there was no replacement program push for those by any communities. So there wont be here is my guess. Universal also just never admit to making mistakes in their home video releases, historically.

Hence the laughing emojis I saw a couple pages back.

[jerclay]

Originally Posted by nick4Knight

Universal also just never admit to making mistakes in their home video releases, historically.

Yeah, well, history is gonna change.

[MadmanMark]

Originally Posted by jerclay

BD too. It's the new master after all.

Right. Damnit. Of course I see this right after I finally break down and place an Amazon order after debating it off and on all week. Oh well, I guess if they do a replacement disc I can always do that. Reminds me I need to do one for Apocolypto.