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Old 07-27-2021, 07:42 AM   #6621
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Does anyone know some sort of authorities in the Blu-Ray reviewing community I could bring this up to that could put some pressure on Universal to get this fixed? I haven't heard a peep back from Universal after 4 emails. I could put together a comprehensive comparison between the Blu-Ray and the 4K showing the issue, if need be. I just need to know who to send it to.
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Old 07-27-2021, 08:36 AM   #6622
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Old 07-27-2021, 03:45 PM   #6623
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Old 07-27-2021, 10:54 PM   #6624
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Default Color-timing differences

US 25th Anniversary Bluray (2010)
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UK Remastered 35th Anniversary Bluray (2020)
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I prefer the 25th Anniversary color-timing.
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Old 07-27-2021, 11:07 PM   #6625
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US 25th Anniversary Bluray (2010)
https://caps-a-holic.com/c_image.php...=0&x=0&y=0&l=0

UK Remastered 35th Anniversary Bluray (2020)
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US Ultra HD 35th Anniversary Bluray (2020)
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I prefer the 25th Anniversary color-timing.
I'd prefer not to judge colour of an HDR version on SDR converted screen caps.
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Old 07-28-2021, 03:40 AM   #6626
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If you're honestly expecting Universal to go through the effort to fix a visual issue on a 4K UHD release that only a relative handful of people are realistically going to message them about, I've got a bridge to sell you.
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Old 07-28-2021, 07:37 AM   #6627
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I'd prefer not to judge colour of an HDR version on SDR converted screen caps.
The colors don't change.
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Old 07-28-2021, 10:31 AM   #6628
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The colors don't change.
There's no nice way to say you're wrong. Anyone can convert raw capture to SDR with any arbitrary method they decide on. There is no standard. Some are "okay" at it but most are just a totally poor way to approximate what are absolute values on the disc data that should be displayed in HDR to even represent and judge.
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Old 07-28-2021, 01:20 PM   #6629
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There's no nice way to say you're wrong. Anyone can convert raw capture to SDR with any arbitrary method they decide on. There is no standard. Some are "okay" at it but most are just a totally poor way to approximate what are absolute values on the disc data that should be displayed in HDR to even represent and judge.
There's no nice way to say I'm wrong because there is no way to say I'm wrong, because I'm not wrong. The colors do not change. The pictures are there for you to see. There's even a regular Blu-ray version of the same transfer right there for you to see.

Is what I'm saying to you a nice way of showing that you're in total denial because you can't handle the fact that the original blu-ray had a better color-timing than the newer blu-ray and HD blu-ray you sank all your money, hopes, and dreams into?
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Old 07-28-2021, 01:27 PM   #6630
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The colors don't change.
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There's no nice way to say I'm wrong because there is no way to say I'm wrong, because I'm not wrong. The colors do not change. The pictures are there for you to see. There's even a regular Blu-ray version of the same transfer right there for you to see.

Is what I'm saying to you a nice way of showing that you're in total denial because you can't handle the fact that the original blu-ray had a better color-timing than the newer blu-ray and HD blu-ray you sank all your money, hopes, and dreams into?
Wrong on both accounts.
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Old 07-28-2021, 02:58 PM   #6631
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Wrong on both accounts.
You really showed me. Fortunately, I have evidence. You don't.
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Old 07-28-2021, 03:54 PM   #6632
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You really showed me. Fortunately, I have evidence. You don't.
Wrong.
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:01 PM   #6633
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You've convinced me. You've changed my mind. I'm blind now.
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:06 PM   #6634
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You really showed me. Fortunately, I have evidence. You don't.
Show us the evidence then.
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:06 PM   #6635
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Show us the evidence then.
I did. Where's yours?
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:07 PM   #6636
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You've convinced me. You've changed my mind. I'm blind now.
In my eyes the 25th looks to have the gaudy magenta push like Star Wars did. The rain looks too saturated and too purple in my view.

The UHD looks more natural to me at least... Based on those caps.
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:34 PM   #6637
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In my eyes the 25th looks to have the gaudy magenta push like Star Wars did. The rain looks too saturated and too purple in my view.

The UHD looks more natural to me at least... Based on those caps.
Thank you. Come climb upon your crucifix alongside me because we can see that there is indeed a difference in color-timing between the Bluray and UHD Bluray. Nearly always the case between blu-ray and UHD Bluray.
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:41 PM   #6638
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Looks like some of us here need to educate themselves better on how HDR works.
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Old 07-28-2021, 04:42 PM   #6639
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I did. Where's yours?
You've already posted it.
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:14 PM   #6640
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If you're honestly expecting Universal to go through the effort to fix a visual issue on a 4K UHD release that only a relative handful of people are realistically going to message them about, I've got a bridge to sell you.
When disc replacements have been done because a power window turned someone's face red for a few frames, I would expect that 20 minutes of a 4K movie being in 720p would be enough for one to be done.
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