Your hood and blurred trees in
the background comparisons are flawed in
the reasoning.
The two sources of comparison are not from
the same transfer, master, and encode of BTTF2
Even though
the blu-ray has a higher bitrate than
the Netflix 1080P stream
the former has prebaked in DNR while
the latter appears not
to but it does have its own set of modern compression trickery for lower bitrate encodes.
The BR master has lost plenty of high frequency detail possibly in part due
to whatever scanner and processing may have been applied during
the scanning and subsequent mastering. Also highlights often exhibit a blown out or clipped appearance.
Whereas with
the Netflix encode it appears
to be derived from a new transfer, master, and clearly a new encode for streaming at ~5Mbs that retains greater higher frequency detail than
the BRs in various instances.
However, since it is such a low bitrate encode there are plenty of compression artifacts such as causing certain picture information
to become more blurred such as background elements or information at a certain motion threshold will lose finer details, especially if it is lower lit imagery. That is why black or near black content will get artifacting such as blockiness.
Visual information that is brighter lit will typically exhibit more finer detail. Film grain various widely within
the aforementioned parameters and that is why
the hood on
the Delorean has a fine layer of film grain which is also made noisy due
to the low bitrate compression level. Wonder what
the 4K stream looks like, potentially better.
Whereas your example superficially looks similar but it is just noise. Also your example even if it were sharpened before applying that noise filter would not derive
the lost finer details missing in
the older master of
the BR encode.
The trees in
the background appear different because of
the lower bitrate and
the encoder likely did not prioritize it as much.
To whether
the colors are correct and/or better will be a subject for debate till
the end of time. I for one detest overcooked color gradings that are unlikely representative of
the original presentation or intention. That said not all new gradings which are more punchy than an older transfers are necessarily wrong or revisionism.
Having watched
the 1080P stream of BTTF2 a few weeks ago I did not observe anything at all that objectionable. There may have been an instance or two when things might have been a bit too over-saturated or over brightened but on
the whole it appears
to be an improvement with better preserved highlights which is always plus for me.
I am also of
the mindset of wire removal and any other visual seam that was never intended
to be evident is perfectly fine and should be judicially applied.
Generational film loss in dupes does hide some of those things but now we can have pristine scans of either
the OCN or higher generation print that resolves more detail than what would have been viewable in
the days of yore of analog projection, it makes little
to no sense
to fetishize that sort of detritus and keep them. Ditto for film damage, etc.
Now on
the complete opposite endof
the spectrum of changing a film is
the completely different issue of creative changes that negatively alter or impact
the narrative such as swapping out guns for walkie-talkies in ET or making Han Solo not proactively shoot Greedo but rather a reactionary shooting of a grossly incompetent close quarters shot by Greedo. Or that weird reframing BS with
The Last Emperor. Totally different scenarios.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mocorongo
[Show spoiler]I didn't know about what you wrote below:
Because that's what the Blu-ray looks like:
https://imgur.com/a/5AobaEr
The first picture (from above) seem to suggest the bumper is that way:
https://i.imgur.com/txRQHtH.png
>>>>
This is the link (with the comparison) I commented before:
https://screenshotcomparison.com/com...4585/picture:9
>>>>
The problem with the bumper is that in the Blu-ray (even if it was always there) it's subtle to a point you don't notice (I know, the Blu-ray may have been bad enough to obscure this detail, which was also revealed by increasing brightness).
In this "remastered" picture, however, the HOOD of the Delorean has noise all over it. If you wanted me to ruin that Blu-ray picture then this is what it would look like:
https://i.imgur.com/r2RwGRU.jpg (the noise filter from Photoshop was applied)
How is this any better than this?
https://i.imgur.com/ZL62cPI.jpg
******
Also, the background seems to have been completely changed, the trees have been blurred.
I wonder if a higher resolution implies a better picture or this sort of change:
 
Is the first image better than the second? Did they apply some sort of filter to enhance the colors along with the brightness?
That's my beef with these new releases: I always tend to think they not only remaster the shitty image from before: they are never content with the way the movies really look like.
I mentioned the Ghost Blu-ray because for that movie they enhanced the colors and in one of the shots everything, the actor's skin, the walls and objects, appear to be of the same color, telling me a filter was applied at least to that scene, while in the old release this didn't happen.
If a scene is supposed to be darker, then it should be left that way. I just want to be clear: what I am against is any sort of revisionism, not * real * improvement that corrects an old problem.
This other comparison:
https://screenshotcomparison.com/com...4585/picture:2
Also enhances all colors, especially the skin tones. I am questioning if these warmer colors are in any way accurate.
What if it's the other way around?
And what if this "correction" removes details that were clearly visible before?
When you improve the resolution and at the same time surreptitiously change what you didn't like, and in the end everyone pretends it's not a big deal and praise the new release, that always gets me and I can't help thinking either that person is ignorant or never liked that movie in the first place. |
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