4K Movies Releases

[Swissangel4616]

Hm...4K is a good thing. But Im not yet interested as long any studios putting still titles(technicolor, cinemascope, film noirs, musical) or just old movie non-restored on DVD-R medium.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Not to worry mike, more are coming .
A reporter for the ETC -

“Sony Pictures production/post production executive Bill Baggelaar has supervised the HDR re-mastering of 25 Sony legacy movies”…..
http://www.etcentric.org/hpa-tech-re...n/#more-101698

"Standards for HDR would be nice". They would indeed

[jaaguir]

Originally Posted by Viking61

Sony Pictures issued a press release for Scandinavia about the 4K UHD blu-ray launch. The press release stated that the 6 first titles will be the same as in the States and will be launched on May 2 for the Scandinavian countries, and they will soon be followed by more titles. The ones specifically mentioned in the press release are:

• Captain Phillips
• Men In Black
• Ghostbusters
• Bad Boys
• The Da Vinci Code
• Bram Stoker's Dracula
• Lawrence Of Arabia
• The Bridge on the River Kwai
• The Guns of Navarone
• Taxi Driver
• Mr. Smith Goes to Washington

"Bram Stoker's Dracula" for me, I was really expecting that one.
EDIT: Also "TAxi driver", "Bad boys", "Men in black".

I hope all of them get HDR. Frankly, I don't see the point of UHD otherwise. I know I'm kind out of place in this forum, and I beg your forgiveness, but that's my opinion.

Lastly, I have one question:
How would 4k benefit a 1939 movie? (and to make matters worse, I thought they only had print elements of it, not the o-neg).
I seem to remember reading that film stock of the 30s didn't have that much resolution.

Originally Posted by reanimator

“We are doing our HDR passes on Star Wars, and both Star Trek's and the last Mission Impossible. ... To me, HDR is an opportunity. It makes a noticeable visual difference."

Looking forward to revisiting all of these in HDR

Yep, as I repeatedly say, I hope HDR catches on among all filmakers, and I hope studios apply it to catalogue. I think it's an opportunity to enhance, without destroying the original intention, as many fear.

I find all the talk about "director's intent" somewhat disingenous. Considering printing and projecting conditions, it's not like most people attending movie theaters throughout history ever got to see what the director intended anyway (it's been calculated that sometimes actual resolution on screen could be sub-HD). It's not like film projection in many movie theaters ever reached contrast ratios of even LCDs either. But that was how movies were shown. Nobody wants to replicate that though. It's all relative.

Also, for most people I think it's going to take some added value like HDR to sell these catalogue titles for the nth time. At least for me. Maybe blu-ray should remain a format for purists, where you already have good looking releases of most movies, and UHD should be pointed at other kinds of audiences.

[Viking61]

Originally Posted by jaaguir

Lastly, I have one question:
How would 4k benefit a 1939 movie? (and to make matters worse, I thought they only had print elements of it, not the o-neg).
I seem to remember reading that film stock of the 30s didn't have that much resolution.

On Amazon they sell a 4K Mastered blu-ray version of 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington'. So I suppose they have the resolution they need.
http://www.amazon.com/Washington-4K-Mastered-UltraViolet-Included-Digibook/dp/B00N5708NE/

Also 4K Mastered blu-ray version of 'Lawrence of Arabia'.
http://www.amazon.com/x30A2-x30E9-x30D3-Mastered-Blu-ray/dp/B00FQ6GZ9I/

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Viking61

On Amazon they sell a 4K Mastered blu-ray version of 'Mr. Smith Goes to Washington'. So I suppose they have the resolution they need.
http://www.amazon.com/Washington-4K-Mastered-UltraViolet-Included-Digibook/dp/B00N5708NE/

Also 4K Mastered blu-ray version of 'Lawrence of Arabia'.
http://www.amazon.com/x30A2-x30E9-x30D3-Mastered-Blu-ray/dp/B00FQ6GZ9I/

All of them are on the Sony 4k service, hence me saying no surprises

[batman2000]

how long until they announce older titles?

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by batman2000

how long until they announce older titles?

7

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

7

Perfection.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Perfection.

You can tell what sequel I watched this week

[batman2000]

i'm being serious jerk

[Richard Paul]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Jack just skewered HLG….
http://phenix.int-evry.fr/jct/doc_en...t.php?id=10462

This coming week in S.D. (http://mpeg.chiariglione.org/meetings/114)
should be interesting for the Brits.

I have noticed that the US companies with business relations to Dolby and/or the movie studios tend to be a bit harsh on HLG. The European companies, like Technicolor, did a lot more testing when they looked at HLG. Sky Deutschland tested HLG and SMPTE 2084 last year and both HDR systems were considered to look good on HDR displays while HLG was considered much better looking on SDR displays. When hundreds of millions of dollars is at stake I expect there to be a good amount of politics. Going from Rec. 2020 HLG to Rec. 709 SDR is tricky but from what I have read it looks like HLG is the best option.

Originally Posted by Geoff D

"Standards for HDR would be nice". They would indeed

I think that for consumer HDR it is 50% complete (30% for movies, 10% for static metadata, and 10% for display requirements) with 50% to go (30% for broadcast and 20% for dynamic metadata).

[Geoff D]

And that's the thing, I fear that politics and back handers and a universal need to get it done as cheaply as possible will result in the poorer systems (or poorer watered-down implementations of systems) getting chosen. 'Twas ever thus, I suppose.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

...both HDR systems were considered to look good on HDR displays...

I agree. Although not revealed in the Sports Video Group Europe article This match used the HLG solution and expert viewers (who’ve produced and compared different HDR content before, with no dog in the hunt, so to speak) gave the hybrid log-gamma imagery a very favorable review. One comment being “very impressive images”. (other technical specs – captured with Sony F55 cameras with 4K PL mount lenses, 50p frame rate).

Readers please note that the illustrative pic in that hyperlinked post in the above paragraph was simply used to document content from *the viewing event*, rather than being an attempt to illustrate on peoples’ computers the actual picture quality differences between HDR and SDR. Also, I’ll add, so as not to cast aspersions on the innocent, that the executive referred to in the first paragraph was not Bill B. or Don E.

Anyway, PQ is more future proof and superior, but HLG is not a *bad* second option at all esp. for the ease of backward compatibility which you mentioned.

Favored solutions?...
PQ favored for movies where one has the luxury of post production.
HLG favored for live content (sports, concerts, etc.)

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

"Standards for HDR would be nice". They would indeed

Hence ACES

That said, It wasn’t until Nov.2014 (publication date) that the peak luminance for HDTVs was standardized at 100 nits (+ or – 5 nits) by the Society of Motion Picture & Television Engineers…..and how many years prior to late 2014 have HDTVs been in use in post facilities and consumers’ homes all over the world? Yet somehow people survived.

Things take time.

[Agent_DVD]

Interesting news on new 4k transfers for Seven Samurai and Ikiru

http://akirakurosawa.info/2016/02/23...pan-this-year/

[tyrok]

Good news everyone. Both WB and Sony's titles are being delivered to Best Buy stores on Thurs 2/25 with Lionsgates titles arriving on Fri 2/26. All launch titles have their street dates listed as 2/11 or 2/12 so there should be no problem buying any of theses as soon as stores receive them. You just need to find one that isn't really strict with what the website says. Life of Pi, Maze Runner, and X-Men DOFP are still currently MIA after a supposed manufacturing delay.

Unfortunately stores only seem to be receiving 2 players each this week to meet the ad minimum for Sunday.

[Agent_DVD]

Originally Posted by tyrok

Good news everyone. Both WB and Sony's titles are being delivered to Best Buy stores on Thurs 2/25 with Lionsgates titles arriving on Fri 2/26. All launch titles have their street dates listed as 2/11 or 2/12 so there should be no problem buying any of theses as soon as stores receive them. You just need to find one that isn't really strict with what the website says. Life of Pi, Maze Runner, and X-Men DOFP are still currently MIA after a supposed manufacturing delay.

Unfortunately stores only seem to be receiving 2 players each this week to meet the ad minimum for Sunday.

Really appreciate you sharing the info, any idea if Best Buy will ship titles early as well or shall I change it to in-store pickup?

Do you know if the ad mentions the UHD movie price? is it locked at $29.99 or will it drop to $27.99 like the previous Fox movies?

[tyrok]

Originally Posted by Agent_DVD

Really appreciate you sharing the info, any idea if Best Buy will ship titles early as well or shall I change it to in-store pickup?

Do you know if the ad mentions the UHD movie price? is it locked at $29.99 or will it drop to $27.99 like the previous Fox movies?

You are probably better off grabbing them in store and then canceling your order. Changing to store pickup will just make them ready on 3/1. They are all listed at $29.99 in the ad.

[infiniteCR]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I just watch the movie, not the borders, you know what I mean? It always surprises me how engrossed I get, to the point when the credits roll and I snap back to reality and I notice the borders and the big speakers on the side of my TV. I could've sworn they weren't there five minutes earlier! (But then it helps that I've done an excellent calibration on my set, if I say so myself, so the borders are truly black and they just blend into the frame of the TV.)

Ya know I keep reading that HDR will fix that issue and get rid of the black bars and provide a larger, richer, picture experience. Do you know if this is true?


OK don't kill me, I am only joshin you!


My real question to you is based on something I *think* you said. Do these new true 4K HDR releases require more DNR than usual?

[reanimator]

Originally Posted by tyrok

Good news everyone...

Was that a FUTURAMA reference?
Thanks for the update!