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Old 09-18-2012, 10:20 PM   #181
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How close were you to see pixel structure? Sure I might believe a poor source being easier to spot with MPEP break up but I never noticed pixel structure on 100in LCD projected image unless I within a couple feet of the screen. And now that I have a SXRD based projector I can't see visible pixel structure unless I get right next to the screen.

I just don't buy what you are seeing as pixel structure unless the inter spacing between the pixels on the set in question is really that bad. 4K LCD is still going to have spacing between the pixels. SXRD/LCOS units just look more natural/analog like due to virtually non existence of the wire showing between the pixels.
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Old 09-19-2012, 12:09 AM   #182
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That's exactly why I stuck w/ DLP for now. A flat panel that large is bound to have some sort of pixelization/motion blur/artifacts-yuck!
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:26 PM   #183
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As I revealed to one in the senior administration at the time of my Insider retirement, I had life-changing transplant surgery shortly after Memorial Day. During the summer it’s been a difficult post operative course because, due to complications, I needed to return to the Operating Room for additional surgery.

But I’m alive and still kicking and I am very thankful to the donor, whoever he/she may have been.

The Beat goes On.


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Old 09-29-2012, 10:32 PM   #184
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I hope so too not forgetting the Hobbit as well
There has been a lot of publicity hype about the fact that The Hobbit was being shot with high resolution (*5K*) digital cameras at an uncommon frame rate (48fps).

I’ve been out of the loop for awhile, but unless there is some recent news of which I’m unaware, there has been relatively dead silence ever since the very beginning of the production and currently, as to whether this motion picture would be finished in 4K and whether or not there would be 4K deliverables.

In essence….just because something is acquired in 4K or 5K doesn’t make it a given that there will be a 4K DCP, especially since, in this case (i.e. 3D), two streams at 48fps produce A LOT OF data for a digital intermediate post facility and supporting vendors to digest. You should not at all be surprised if the spatial resolution will ultimately be finished and shown at 2K no matter what the format (2D or 3D) or frame rate (48fps or 24fps) that your local Mulitplex exhibits this motion picture at.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:15 PM   #185
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Fair enough, but I won't be surprised if I can go see it in 4K 48fps either. I'll just be super excited.
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Old 09-30-2012, 03:17 PM   #186
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penton man, it is good to see you posting. i have missed your posts.
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Old 09-30-2012, 06:14 PM   #187
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I hope you're recovering well.

Now tell these guys to open back your thread! What happened in the past is done.

To get things back in the mood; i still don't think 4K with make a huge difference.

Take that. *runs*

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Old 10-01-2012, 10:25 AM   #188
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Just WOW i want one

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Old 10-01-2012, 09:18 PM   #189
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I hope you're recovering well.
Now tell these guys to open back your thread! What happened in the past is done.

To get things back in the mood; i still don't think 4K with make a huge difference.
Take that. *runs*

Well, I concede that there won’t be a “huge” difference like that with ‘Frank’…

As compared to the late John Holmes (from what I’ve heard)…
[Show spoiler]Did you really think I would post a YouTube clip as a visual aid?


Seriously, however, I think there is an ‘appreciable’ difference (meaning….eventual ’value’ to serious enthusiasts) between 4K and 1080p displays, no matter what the size, even as small as 20” - http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...-monitor-ever/

For upgrading same-sized TVs, most people will need to alter their current seating arrangements in order to enjoy full advantage of their purchase but, as I’ve said before, moving closer comes with the benefit of a more immersive cinema-like experience without seeing screen artifacts like with 1080p displays. But hey, if one is not willing to alter their furniture arrangement(s)….that’s o.k., there are people who are not willing to purchase Blu-rays and would prefer to watch something more compressed like On Demand movies from their cable company, etc., easily accessible with a click of the remote because they feel the difference in quality doesn’t override the convenience factor. Different strokes for different folks.

Personally, I’m looking forward to hearing the presentations about Ultra High Definition Imaging on Thursday afternoon at this month’s SMPTE Annual Technical Conference and also Lukasz Litwic’s paper comparing simulation results from the JCT-VC HEVC test model against an industry-leading AVC encoder -
https://www.smpte.org/atc2012/tc-program

4K aint going away. I’m always for technological improvements. Discretionary entertainment spending is a personal thing and I’ll leave it up to others to decide what is right for them and when.

P.S.
Scroll down to the abstract for John Galt’s presentation, i.e…..“ In 2004, one camera manufacturer introduced a 4096 x 2048 pixel CCD camera for cinema applications and declared it was a "4K" camera. Soon many would follow, and today this particular piece of obfuscation is rampant in the motion picture industry. Despite all the technical challenges in creating the first "True 4K" large format digital cinema camera one of the greatest challenges we are faced with is how to end the "4K" confusion. – I would love to hear the people from Red’s response to that as John certainly does have a way with words.
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:20 PM   #190
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:33 AM   #191
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i sit about 8 ft away from my 120" screen, 1080p looks decent but 4k would be noticeably better.

That said, has there been any talk if blu-ray will support 4k? im looking foward to 4k down the road but not if its going to require a whole new format
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Old 10-02-2012, 05:23 PM   #192
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...To get things back in the mood; i still don't think 4K with make a huge difference...


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Seriously, however, I think there is an ‘appreciable’ difference (meaning….eventual ’value’ to serious enthusiasts) between 4K and 1080p displays, no matter what the size, even as small as 20” - http://www.digitaltrends.com/home-th...-monitor-ever/

For upgrading same-sized TVs, most people will need to alter their current seating arrangements in order to enjoy full advantage of their purchase but, as I’ve said before, moving closer comes with the benefit of a more immersive cinema-like experience without seeing screen artifacts like with 1080p displays...
+1
Could not have said it better myself; I will be into 4K when the price is right.

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Old 10-03-2012, 01:10 AM   #193
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As I revealed to one in the senior administration at the time of my Insider retirement, I had life-changing transplant surgery shortly after Memorial Day. During the summer it’s been a difficult post operative course because, due to complications, I needed to return to the Operating Room for additional surgery.

But I’m alive and still kicking and I am very thankful to the donor, whoever he/she may have been.

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Old 10-03-2012, 01:12 AM   #194
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Could not have said it better myself; I will be into 4K when the price is right.
same here, can't spend the cash where it is now (especially with no true 4k content) but when the time is right (for me) I will be there
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:45 PM   #195
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i sit about 8 ft away from my 120" screen, 1080p looks decent but 4k would be noticeably better.

That said, has there been any talk if blu-ray will support 4k? im looking foward to 4k down the road but not if its going to require a whole new format
Well, 4K BD50’s would be ‘do-able’ with HEVC and some people might prefer it that way (skip to the last line of this piece….http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu...ray-disc-28392) but I think it would be far more astute and *future-proof* to employ the use of larger capacity Blu-ray discs….even if that requires more time and effort to accomplish by all parties involved.

To date, this is about the most candid public statement press types can pull out of a high-ranking official consumer electronics voice (a good guy)….pay attention to the end of the clip -
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/29/32...4k-tv-hands-on
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Old 10-03-2012, 09:47 PM   #196
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I wish you good luck on your health, and it is noice to see you back
you are a good debator and a true friend.
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Well, 4K BD50’s would be ‘do-able’ with HEVC and some people might prefer it that way (skip to the last line of this piece….http://www.homemediamagazine.com/blu...ray-disc-28392) but I think it would be far more astute and *future-proof* to employ the use of larger capacity Blu-ray discs….even if that requires more time and effort to accomplish by all parties involved.

To date, this is about the most candid public statement press types can pull out of a high-ranking official consumer electronics voice (a good guy)….pay attention to the end of the clip -
http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/29/32...4k-tv-hands-on
cool, thank you for the reply.
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Old 10-04-2012, 09:18 AM   #198
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Do i need to buy a projector to watch movies in 4k ? I want a LG 84inch which is this one !

http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/7/329...e-date-pricing

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Old 10-04-2012, 10:43 AM   #199
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I was having a discussion with another user about 4K. How accurate is the user 'sanjay'?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=205224&page=2
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:42 AM   #200
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is there any point in having 8k tv's becouse the only thing worth watching in 8k would be LOA and that's it
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