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Old 11-02-2015, 03:42 PM   #6001
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Yeah, I envy you guys at Halloween. It's a little more low-key here. We have the trick or treaters but only for an hour or so, early evening.....
it's busier here....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsuG...utu.be&t=1m38s

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see #8…. http://www.theasc.com/site/blog/spec...th-sam-mendes/

and someone not mentioned in the article, who helped
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Old 11-02-2015, 03:59 PM   #6004
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I am more excited for SPECTRE than The Force Awakens. That's how big a 007 fan I am....
be it Jack in Skyfall or in Spectre? anyone know?

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Old 11-02-2015, 05:02 PM   #6005
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If It Ain't Laser, It's LieMAX™
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:46 PM   #6006
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Anyone know what the IMAX workflow resolutions were for Star Trek Into Darkness? I've noticed all the 35mm high-res stills LucasFilm is putting out for VII are 2K, whereas the IMAX stills are 4K, leading me to think they might be mastering at 2K for 35, 4K for IMAX. I remember reading somewhere that a similarly dubious process happened on STID, but I can't find any hard numbers.
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Just spitballing here, but whenever large format IMAX footage is involved then the digital workflow goes all the way up to 8K for mastering the footage itself and then filming out to 15/70, but what happens after to the DSM is more hazy. I don't think there was ever a 4K deliverable for STID, just the various 2K 3D versions (and the 15/70, natch).

Fingers crossed Ep VII will get a genuine 4K finish but due to the 3D the regular DCPs will still be 2K. But now that IMAX actually have 4K projectors on some sites then it's possible they'll have their own bespoke 4K master for their laser installs.
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Old 11-03-2015, 12:27 AM   #6008
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Thanks for the info. I only ever saw films that had genuine IMAX sequences like TDK, TDK:R, Ghost Protocol, etc. The only movie I saw after the upgrade was Interstellar and it was obviously not digital. The only total DMR'd movies I have seen were Avatar, Tron Legacy, and Elysium, but those were on film.

I am more excited for SPECTRE than The Force Awakens. That's how big a 007 fan I am. Has anyone seen a 2K LieMAX movie on a 15/70 screen? I am debating cancelling my reserved tickets.
It depends on if your screen is more than 75 feet wide. The Cinema Du Lux IMAX in White Plains NY is probably in the 60 foot range, and while there was resolution loss when they went digital, for normal Hollywood films it dosen't look all that different and the image size is the same. Though at Lincoln Square in Manhattan with a near 100 foot screen, the films are windowboxed with more than 20 feet of black bars on the sides.

For 100% DMRs shown in IMAX digital, like everything else I don't think it can match what you saw in 15/70 prints of those movies, but still should get image quality and sound at least matched by the best of what you'd see in regular theaters (and much more often those theaters would be worse).

Anyway, unlike Skyfall (saw on a 15/70 print), seeing Spectre on Friday in a regular screen. Still is a nice theater: single screen location with good sized screen, 7.1 Dolby sound, and I think their DCP is 4K (actually have 35 and 70 capability there as well, and saw Interstellar there in 5/70). Actually depending on how it plays out, good chance In the Heart of the Sea is only Fall release I see in IMAX (already booked regular 3D tickets for Star Wars after the IMAX shows for opening weekend were nearly all sold out by the second day of ticket sales).

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good choice, the advance screening in your neck of the woods is now sold out – http://www.strathallan.com/play/jame...-premier-night
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the 5.1 CCAP 4K (4096x1716 scope) file is 205 GB….add on another ~ 20GB for 7.1 audio
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Old 11-03-2015, 03:44 AM   #6012
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reminds me, heads-up to New York forum member Zoet, CCW coming up in your neck of the woods -> http://www.tvtechnology.com/events/0...-on-hdr/277305
b.t.w., Rod Bogart of openEXR fame….http://www.openexr.com/TechnicalIntroduction.pdf
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Just spitballing here, but whenever large format IMAX footage is involved then the digital workflow goes all the way up to 8K for mastering the footage itself and then filming out to 15/70, but what happens after to the DSM is more hazy. I don't think there was ever a 4K deliverable for STID, just the various 2K 3D versions (and the 15/70, natch).

Fingers crossed Ep VII will get a genuine 4K finish but due to the 3D the regular DCPs will still be 2K. But now that IMAX actually have 4K projectors on some sites then it's possible they'll have their own bespoke 4K master for their laser installs.
I've seen STID from Samsung's UHD video package and the IMAX scenes looked like real UHD to me, not an upscale. There was a huge difference in quality between the 35mm and IMAX scenes.
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Old 11-03-2015, 11:29 AM   #6014
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I've seen STID from Samsung's UHD video package and the IMAX scenes looked like real UHD to me, not an upscale. There was a huge difference in quality between the 35mm and IMAX scenes.
Sure, as I said IMAX scenes are usually post-produced at way beyond UHD quality, so for this version Paramount/Samsung/whoever could've pulled the relevant .DPX (or whatever file format, I'm sure Penton will correct me in due course) files and done a 4K extraction and slugged them into the upscaled 2K 35mm stuff, but I think I'm right in saying there wasn't a 4K theatrical deliverable of any kind; the 3D put paid to that.
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Sure, as I said IMAX scenes are usually post-produced at way beyond UHD quality, so for this version Paramount/Samsung/whoever could've pulled the relevant .DPX (or whatever file format, I'm sure Penton will correct me in due course) files and done a 4K extraction and slugged them into the upscaled 2K 35mm stuff, but I think I'm right in saying there wasn't a 4K theatrical deliverable of any kind; the 3D put paid to that.
Plus, you know, IMAX stuff looks noticeably better than 35mm at 1080p, too.
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That is also true. The embiggened IMAX scenes on the Blu-ray of STID look absolutely extraordinary IMO.
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....whoever could've pulled the relevant .DPX (or whatever file format, I'm sure Penton will correct me in due course)
Sir, I’m busy thinking of the title of a movie out of France several years ago that embodies
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feeling sick from the piss yellow filter
but, for the moment, I’m blocking…. just can’t recall. Eventually i’ll come up with it though, for I figure if I expose mike to enough of the imagery (like in the posts above), he’ll slowly become desensitized....and engage once again.

Meanwhile, onto another movie that garnered quite some acclaim several weeks back ( http://deadline.com/2015/09/room-win...al-1201538545/), namely,

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Plus, you know, IMAX stuff looks noticeably better than 35mm at 1080p, too.
IMAX rare a movie for home theatre. Most 35mm at 1080p
I exciting UHD tv 4K and can't wait see to UHD 4K Blu-ray Disc.

4K digital film native will next year 2016 movie.
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4K digital film native will next year 2016 movie.

Please try to be more careful with your posts. It is very hard to understand you.
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I exciting UHD tv 4K and can't wait see to UHD 4K Blu-ray Disc.

4K digital film native will next year 2016 movie.
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