4K Movies Releases

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by mrr1

These crap movie releases are not making me want to go out and buy a 4K player. Not at all. I cannot help but think back to how 'The Matrix' helped launch DVD in a BIG way. Maybe they should be trying to get some 4k releases of movies that still are not on Blu Ray to coincide with the player launch?

Wouldn't it be easier to launch UHD with titles such as 'True Lies' and 'The Abyss', rather than than 'Smurfs 2' and 'Pineapple Express'?

ask Fox, not Sony

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

wake me up when Sony announces: 'Lawrence of Arabia', 'Das Boot', 'Black Hawk Down','Starship Troopers', 'Air Force One' and 'Immortal Beloved' on UHD (with Dolby Atmos remixes)

Will do , Dub, you still in the District, or do I tap a Md. zip code?

The new mantra is “HDR is in our DNA” , thusly….
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...t#post11504832

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

You think people not on here want the abyss over the smurfs for their kids?

kids can’t pronounce, nor know nothing much of Nietzsche….but they hold the key to family disposable income....and have no problem at all with sitting closer to the TV than the 'accepted' norm.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

They're some special goddamned kids if mummy and daddy are buying UHD Blu-ray for them!

4k set sales at 42" will eclipse 1080p sales in a year I bet

[Penton-Man]

mike, are you in Germany anytime next month? ….
http://www.filmlight.ltd.uk/news/eve...0_roadshow.php

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

4k set sales at 42" will eclipse 1080p sales in a year I bet

Because that's how panel manufacture is turning, sure, every new TV will be 4K by default soon enough. Doesn't mean that UHD Blu-ray will suddenly take off though, as flat screen TVs becoming HD by default certainly didn't help Blu-ray become the dominant force in the home video market because DVD 'looked good enough', just as Blu-ray will look 'good enough' to the average joe on a 4K TV.

If anything UHD is just gonna cannibalise the 30-ish-percent share that Blu-ray currently has in the physical media stakes.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Because that's how panel manufacture is turning, sure, every new TV will be 4K by default soon enough. Doesn't mean that UHD Blu-ray will suddenly take off though, as flat screen TVs becoming HD by default certainly didn't help Blu-ray become the dominant force in the home video market because DVD 'looked good enough', just as Blu-ray will look 'good enough' to the average joe on a 4K TV.

If anything UHD is just gonna cannibalise the 30-ish-percent share that Blu-ray currently has in the physical media stakes.

It won't take off, its the new laserdisc.
But a pretty brightly coloured kids movie if you have kids is not a bad thing to show off

[Geoff D]

Ha, I still think there will be way more people buying it just because it's UHD software to show on their 4K TV than just getting it for their sprogs. I can imagine the excuses now when matey takes it to the counter and is met by a withering look: "it's for the kids!". Yeah right.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Ha, I still think there will be way more people buying it just because it's UHD software to show on their 4K TV than just getting it for their sprogs. I can imagine the excuses now when matey takes it to the counter and is met by a withering look: "it's for the kids!". Yeah right.

[mrr1]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

ask Fox, not Sony

I thought Sony was launching the player?

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by mrr1

I thought Sony was launching the player?

Only Samsung and Panasonic are talking about hardware and Panasonic is more about Japan

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

mike, are you in Germany anytime next month? ….

Because we all missed you in Amsterdam for reiteration…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdZC...tu.be&t=19m06s

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

They're some special goddamned kids if mummy and daddy are buying UHD Blu-ray for them!

why? Do you think a parent should see their kid as less worthy (this title is for me so I want X but Y will do for my kid)? also can't mummy or daddy watch the film with their kid?

[Dex Robinson]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

why? Do you think a parent should see their kid as less worthy ...

Yes.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Ha, I still think there will be way more people buying it just because it's UHD software to show on their 4K TV

I agree and that is why launch titles are always kind of crappy it is the easiest way to get someone to buy it and make some extra money off of the title.

than just getting it for their sprogs

why does it need to be one or the other and it can't be both? can't someone get Pineapple Express for themselves, SM2 for (or to watch with) their teen and smurfs 2 to watch with their 6 year old?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Dex Robinson

Yes.

love is caring about someone more than yourself

[Penton-Man]

Not nearly 4K rez, but given current events, a special recognition Youtube clip goes out to our Blu-ray.com membership located in France….

French fans sing National Anthem "La Marseillaise" - Evacuation from Stade de France | Paris Attack - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

For engineering excellence, 4K and HDR devices win HPA awards…
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...winners-838776

Colorfront gets honorable mention for interactive HFR (high frame rate) frame-blending (e.g. download the clip after action near the end of this post -
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...n#post11416041 )

[dubious]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I agree and that is why launch titles are always kind of crappy it is the easiest way to get someone to buy it and make some extra money off of the title.



why does it need to be one or the other and it can't be both? can't someone get Pineapple Express for themselves, SM2 for (or to watch with) their teen and smurfs 2 to watch with their 6 year old?

... and what are you going to do with it after you burn through those three mildly entertaining titles?

... and if you make to the twentieth viewing of Smurfs without smurfing your whole family, then maybe you are UHD worthy.

[Richard Paul]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

or, no *HDR war* is needed, peaceful side-by-side coexistence is possible in consumer TVs.

I agree that there is no problem with having several HDR standards (broadcast, movies, game consoles, computers, etc...) but it may take a few years before a consumer can buy a display that will work with all of them. Consumers will be not be happy if they connect a cable box or game console and find out that it uses a different type of HDR than what their TV supports.

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Well, there are 3 major camps. Firstly, those who’ve been favoring the PQ system. Secondly, those who favor the hybrid log-gamma curve. And last but not least, Thirdly, those who believe what the consumer needs is both approaches (PQ system and HLG) with the former for non-real time production (e.g. movies) and the later for live programming (i.e. a single standard with two applications perhaps by combining the signal path vis-a-vis an OOTF).

It should be noted that the PQ advocates and the HLG advocates each believe their respective system is the only one consumers would ever require….which has led to some delay of a single standard to define image dynamic range to add to what Rec.2020 gave to UHD.

I like that PQ expands the lower end of the dynamic range but it seems more likely to cause problems. PQ uses absolute brightness values so it would be easy to blast light at such a high level that it causes irritation or pain. HLG is a relative brightness system so you can simply set the peak brightness to a reasonable level depending on the viewing area. I think it will take a few years to get a good idea of how well they will do since early adopters tend to be more forgiving of flaws than mainstream consumers (an example would be 3D TVs).