IMAX Enhanced

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by d3nt0n

I'd love to know what processor you have that fixes the lack of dynamics and low end response in most of Disney's mixes

https://www.marantz.com/en-us/produc...ceivers/sr8015

Originally Posted by jeff BD

Emotiva XPA Gen3 pre-amp and Onkyo Rz-50 receiver. Id consider those "decent".

Being able to make things "loud" doesnt mean good. Lack of dynamics and low end is an ongoing problem. I shouldnt have to change my calibrated settings for Disney movies

Bumping the volume up 6dB or so isn't going to change your calibrated settings.

Also unfortunately your Onkyo is a rebadged Pioneer. The quality went way down after the companies merged.

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

He has a magic processor on loan from his Fairy Godmother.

Expecting a $800 receiver to perform like a $3000 one is indeed fantasy.

Just like the folks complaining about the 4K HDR picture of Goodfellas. Chances are they have a shit TV.

[jeff BD]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

https://www.marantz.com/en-us/produc...ceivers/sr8015


Bumping the volume up 6dB or so isn't going to change your calibrated settings.

Also unfortunately your Onkyo is a rebadged Pioneer. The quality went way down after the companies merged.



Expecting a $800 receiver to perform like a $3000 one is indeed fantasy.

Just like the folks complaining about the 4K HDR picture of Goodfellas. Chances are they have a shit TV.

1st of all the RZ-50 is consistently highly rated and is a better unit than most denon and marantz in the same price range to many.

2nd bumping up the volume doesnt suddenly add dynamics and bass. Theirs countless reviewers with 25K worth of equipment that all compain about "Atmouse"

3rd No one should need to have a $3000 receiver and $2000 pre-amp, to be able to get decent sound. No excuse for other streaming services to have better audio quality. Its Disney problem end of story

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

https://www.marantz.com/en-us/produc...ceivers/sr8015


Bumping the volume up 6dB or so isn't going to change your calibrated settings.

Also unfortunately your Onkyo is a rebadged Pioneer. The quality went way down after the companies merged.



Expecting a $800 receiver to perform like a $3000 one is indeed fantasy.

Just like the folks complaining about the 4K HDR picture of Goodfellas. Chances are they have a shit TV.

I have a 13.3 channel Atmos processor, Triad Gold speakers, Buckeye Purifi D-Class and ATI AB-Class amps, Monolith 15 inch THX subs, Oppo and Panasonic 4k players, a JVC 4k HDR projector... and a pretty good idea that Disney, for the most part, is gimping their soundtracks and often screwing up their HDR grades (especially Pirates and Heat).



It's never been about just raising your volume or people with MUCH more sophisticated Storm Audio or Trinnov Altitude systems wouldn't be complaining about Disney soundtracks either. They are.

[PeterTHX]

[quote=jeff BD;21059443]1st of all the RZ-50 is consistently highly rated and is a better unit than most denon and marantz in the same price range to many.

2nd bumping up the volume doesnt suddenly add dynamics and bass. Theirs countless reviewers with 25K worth of equipment that all compain about "Atmouse"

Seeing as most reviewers don't list their equipment it means bupkis.
And seeing as levels do matter it's a pretty big deal. 6dB requires 4 times the power.

Remember those proclaiming DTS "better" when it ended up being 3-6dB above DD levels? They also claimed "better dynamics and more bass". When DD was actually level matched those claimed disappeared.

3rd No one should need to have a $3000 receiver and $2000 pre-amp, to be able to get decent sound. No excuse for other streaming services to have better audio quality. Its Disney problem end of story

Most people consider it "decent sound". You're asking for audiophile grade and for that you DO need better equipment.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

It's never been about just raising your volume or people with MUCH more sophisticated Storm Audio or Trinnov Altitude systems wouldn't be complaining about Disney soundtracks either. They are.

Most people "set and forget" and think one volume level serves all. It doesn't.

[d3nt0n]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Remember those proclaiming DTS "better" when it ended up being 3-6dB above DD levels? They also claimed "better dynamics and more bass". When DD was actually level matched those claimed disappeared.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by d3nt0n

2nd bumping up the volume doesnt suddenly add dynamics and bass.

YOU brought it up. Derp.

[jeff BD]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Seeing as most reviewers don't list their equipment it means bupkis.
And seeing as levels do matter it's a pretty big deal. 6dB requires 4 times the power.

Remember those proclaiming DTS "better" when it ended up being 3-6dB above DD levels? They also claimed "better dynamics and more bass". When DD was actually level matched those claimed disappeared.



Most people consider it "decent sound". You're asking for audiophile grade and for that you DO need better equipment.

People Like sparechange show you the equipment they use. And if hes complaining about audio then you know its not good.

No ones asking for "audiophile grade" we're asking for netflix level atmos at least. At minimum.

If youre doing contracting work for Disney just say so

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by jeff BD

People Like sparechange show you the equipment they use. And if hes complaining about audio then you know its not good.

And who exactly is "sparechange"? Did their parents not like him or something for that "name"?

No ones asking for "audiophile grade" we're asking for netflix level atmos at least. At minimum.

If youre doing contracting work for Disney just say so

Apples and oranges when it comes to Netflix and Disney. They have different mixing practices - even when using the exact same mixing facilities.

And no, nobody's paying me for this.

[jeff BD]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

And who exactly is "sparechange"? Did their parents not like him or something for that "name"?



Apples and oranges when it comes to Netflix and Disney. They have different mixing practices - even when using the exact same mixing facilities.

And no, nobody's paying me for this.

L O L

No shit. Thats why we're hoping the IMAX sound mixing for these sound better.

[jeff BD]

Remember when they announced Imax Audio in January? L O L

[sapiendut]

It’s dead in the water.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

It’s dead in the water.

DTS is famous for their delays. A big reason they weren't seriously considered for the HDTV sound standard and not a mandatory format for DVD.

DTS-MA was on Blu-ray for over a year before anything could decode it.

DTS:X via DTS-HR didn't work for a while either.

[sapiendut]

Or it may just be as dead as the IMAX Enhanced which sadly I actually like.

[jeff BD]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Or it may just be as dead as the IMAX Enhanced which sadly I actually like.

Wait whats going on with Imax enhanced?

[sapiendut]

I don’t see anything with IMAX Enhanced audio anywhere anymore.

[jeff BD]

IMAX enhanced audio is dead lol

[sapiendut]

Pretty much.

[puddy77]

Not sure if anyone cares, but I thought I'd resurrect this thread just like Disney is resurrecting the format. May 15.

https://press.disneyplus.com/news/di...nced-sound-dts

[Jodi]

Originally Posted by puddy77

Not sure if anyone cares, but I thought I'd resurrect this thread just like Disney is resurrecting the format. May 15.

https://press.disneyplus.com/news/di...nced-sound-dts

Cool. Now if only IMAX could somehow step in and license 4K UHD Blu-rays of films in DTS!