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[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I would like to know that as well (and if not what is the best way to get the point across)

When people post queries/concerns in a respectful fashion (as you and DaViD have done) on the only forum regularly read by Blu-ray insiders who have the power to address those concerns to others in the business, that is the best way to get the point across – and by extension, the best chance for a successful outcome.

Sometimes we just don’t know, or can’t answer without breaching confidentialities or the topic is so new, it hasn’t come up on anyone’s radar screen.

[Penton-Man]

I received some PM’s over the weekend as to whether I know and could reveal a rough timeframe for the debut of some Tarantino titles: Kill Bill Vol.1, Kill Bill Vol. 2 and Pulp Fiction because apparently one or all are on a preorder status from some retailer.

Ans. – No, I don’t know when these titles will debut on Blu-ray.
However, for those hypersensitive to DNR, I will tell you right now that a tad of DNR was applied to the film master of Kill Bill Vol.1 in order to make the grain look consistent from scene to scene as multiple film stocks were used.

So, since it’s on the film master, it will be on any video masters floating out and about and inevitably will be on the Blu-ray edition. I don’t know if any eagle eyes will perceive it, much less complain about it however, if the whining begins with the inevitable blame game to follow, do not blame the Blu-ray encoding/authoring team as this was applied way further on upstream. Some people that are not immersed in the storyline of the film may catch the processing on a few scenes.

[ThatArtGuy]

Do not resuscitate? NOOOOOO... Wait, I mean Digital Noise Reduction NOOOOOOO!!!!

Obviously, I'm kidding. Given the scenario you describe, I'm guessing that the most utmost care was taken while making the transfer. DNR doesn't make me cringe on live action movies nearly as much as it does when used on animated ones. Especially when the person(s) doing the work fall asleep at the wheel. (The Tex Avery Droopy set is a prime example.) As an aside, how does one NOT get engrossed into a Tarantino film? Probably the ones that get bored during a Hitchcock film.

As for certain places having Blu-Rays on preorder, I'm wanting "This Is Spinal Tap" that they have online. And before anyone says anything, we all know that your home theater setup goes to 11.

TAG

[MerrickG]

Hey Penton,

Can you tell us if we will be hear something on March 4th when a comPAny is Reportely supposed to mAke an iMportant annOUNcemenT confirming their blu intentions or is this a case of too many people dayDREAMing from WORKing too hard and not Sleeping enough?

[coolmilo]

Hello Penton,

I personally can't wait for Kill Bill 1&2 and Pulp Fiction to debut on Blu-ray.

In the meantime, I almost expected to hear about release dates for Men in Black and Sin City by now (esp since MIB was highlighted at CES).

Any idea what's up with these titles?

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I received some PM’s over the weekend as to whether I know and could reveal a rough timeframe for the debut of some Tarantino titles: Kill Bill Vol.1, Kill Bill Vol. 2 and Pulp Fiction because apparently one or all are on a preorder status from some retailer.

Ans. – No, I don’t know when these titles will debut on Blu-ray.
However, for those hypersensitive to DNR, I will tell you right now that a tad of DNR was applied to the film master of Kill Bill Vol.1 in order to make the grain look consistent from scene to scene as multiple film stocks were used.

So, since it’s on the film master, it will be on any video masters floating out and about and inevitably will be on the Blu-ray edition. I don’t know if any eagle eyes will perceive it, much less complain about it however, if the whining begins with the inevitable blame game to follow, do not blame the Blu-ray encoding/authoring team as this was applied way further on upstream. Some people that are not immersed in the storyline of the film may catch the processing on a few scenes.

Hold on as second. Are you trying to tell us we are supposed to be sitting back and enjoying the movies?!

I thought the whole point was supposed to be about competing with other assh*les to find flaws, or make something up, and then spend months whining about it on the Internet.

[Slec]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Hold on as second. Are you trying to tell us we are supposed to be sitting back and enjoying the movies?!

I thought the whole point was supposed to be about competing with other assh*les to find flaws, or make something up, and then spend months whining about it on the Internet.

Bwahahahaha, it's funny cause its true...

Warning, non blu-ray content....Penton, you catch that last injury minute goal yesterday. As much as I was screaming "yes" the neighbors must have thought I was watching porn!

[Logan00]

Originally Posted by merrick97

Hey Penton,

Can you tell us if we will be hear something on March 4th when a comPAny is Reportely supposed to mAke an iMportant annOUNcemenT confirming their blu intentions or is this a case of too many people dayDREAMing from WORKing too hard and not Sleeping enough?

I am sure there is some code in there, I am just not sure what it is

[Crème Blu-ray]

Hey Penton,

Do you know if Fox has plans to re-release any Blu-ray titles that don't include the DVD extras? (Pretty much all of them except Sunshine )

[Anthony P]

Sometimes we just don’t know, or can’t answer without breaching confidentialities or the topic is so new, it hasn’t come up on anyone’s radar screen.

Just in case there was a bit of misunderstanding, when I said "and if not what is the best way to get the point across" it was meant more WRT to what you said as "hasn’t come up on anyone’s radar screen" in the BDA then if you can't answer.


Considering there have been articles on how studios are looking at 3D for the theatres I think it important to get 3D done right (one formal spec, then many incompatible specs) from the get go. I also think the best way is to do it with the second decoder, (a left and a right encode on the disk) because then the disk becomes irrelevant to the viewing tech (what I mean is hat if there are two 1080p encodes -like PiP- that can play simultaneously then like PiP a non-3d player just shows one, someone with a 120hz 3D displays can buy a player that interlaces the two streams and sends out in a way those TVs can use while someone that wants a two projector system (or a display with a dual HDMI input for 3D) would buy a player with a left HDMI and right HDMI output. Not to mention every other existing or possible 3D display tech)

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by Logan00

I am sure there is some code in there, I am just not sure what it is

I have no idea how you could possibly think that I have a hidden message in their somewhere?

[What'sHD]

PM, any News expected at CeBit?

I will be attending and am wondering if goodies are upcoming. thanks.

[WickyWoo]

Please put all 3D questions in the "to 3D or not 3D" section

Studios are very well aware of the desire for quality 3D, and even more aware of the limited number of sets that can actually support this in homes, and the fact that they also have a new thing to draw people to theaters that they don't want to duplicate at home too quickly

Personally wouldn't expect any 3-D releases outside of a token handful for 5 years at least

[TheRealBob]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Please put all 3D questions in the "to 3D or not 3D" section

That thread is here:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=25121

[Penton-Man]

I received a PM concerning Lawrence of Arabia from a post on AVS by a former insider from a formerly red company……namely Amir…………
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=1602

Please, no more PM’s to me concerning the barbecue dude!
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=1458

Whose words will be forever immortalized in granite, thanks to Jeff……..
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=1136

Geez, he even spun his own “retirement” on the *other forum*. But I digress as I’m on vacation this week and presently waiting for my better half to make sandwiches for a day trip we’re about to embark on.

In regards to the comment that he made concerning LoA, the event that Amir is referring to, I believe was the first “All Things Digital” conference….. and the projector could not support full 1080p. It was a mistake to attempt a split screen of any kind at that venue, but WSJ would not allow a separate projector set-up.
Nuff said.

I’m going to ignore the perceived LoA *issues* for the time being since they are based on cable/satellite distributed content, not Blu-ray; however, I will add a little perspective concerning tests/demonstrations that are of public record. Granted this test involved a 35mm source; however, it utilized the original camera negative which was virgin and pristine. LoA is 65mm but, the usable “source” is an I/P (interpositive) which is significantly less detailed than the 65mm original negative in terms of resolution as the result of predicated generational loss. In fact, some sections of the I/P originate from duped elements rather than the OCN, which causes even further generational loss in resolution. In other words, the resolution of the *usable* film element of LoA aint no 6K, no way.

Anyway, at the ETC’s DCL there was a 2K vs 4K digital shootout a couple years back. The 35mm original negative (virgin and pristine) source was scanned on a Northlight scanner at 6K resolution making 16-bit Tiff files. The 6K master was subsequently down-resolved (with minimal filtering) to 4K and 2K versions, and eventually shown on a Sony 4K SRX-R110 projector during a split screen demonstration with a Christie CP2000 which is a professional 2K digital projector. The audience included ASC projection sub-committee members, DP’s, CTO’s, tech-geeks, outside consultants and other industry folk with a keen eye. The vast majority of the audience did not see any increased detail at all from the 4K projector images compared to those from the 2K projector. This has been published and you can find it if you know where to look.

Now granted, the screen was only 20 ft. wide, so I imagine some home theater enthusiasts (with more experience than the audience members described above) might see some increased detail if they performed this same test at home using their more sophisticated projectors showing the same content on their larger screens.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by merrick97

Hey Penton,

Can you tell us if we will be hear something on March 4th when a comPAny is Reportely supposed to mAke an iMportant annOUNcemenT confirming their blu intentions or is this a case of too many people dayDREAMing from WORKing too hard and not Sleeping enough?

Sorry, Bill Hunt may be less handcuffed than moi.
Check his insider's thread here or the Digital Bits website.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Slec

Bwahahahaha, it's funny cause its true...

Warning, non blu-ray content....Penton, you catch that last injury minute goal yesterday. As much as I was screaming "yes" the neighbors must have thought I was watching porn!

Yikes!

You do realize that I record some matches (Aston Villa, in this case, I presume) and don’t get the opportunity to watch them until 3-4 days later !!!!!!!!!!!

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Sorry, Bill Hunt may be less handcuffed than moi.
Check his insider's thread here or the Digital Bits website.

Fluffy handcuffs I hope.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Crème Blu-ray

Hey Penton,

Do you know if Fox has plans to re-release any Blu-ray titles that don't include the DVD extras? (Pretty much all of them except Sunshine )

No, I don’t.
Personally, I’m just ecstatic that they are releasing Sand Pebbles around D-Day because Steve McQueen was one of my motorcycle racing he-roes (On Any Sunday) and the fact that the audio restoration needed (and performed by a professional in Santa Monica) was indeed monumental.

[Slec]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Yikes!

You do realize that I record some matches (Aston Villa, in this case, I presume) and don’t get the opportunity to watch them until 3-4 days later !!!!!!!!!!!

I will refrain in the future... Apologies!