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singhcr · 02-01-2018, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dyne

Speed Racer in HDR would be eye melting.

That it would. I would definitely pick that up.

Geoff D · 02-01-2018, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by singhcr

Yup, that's true. The seps are B&W but they are also intermediate/copy stock, just black and white rather than color as you lose a lot of highlight information if you attempt to use standard black and white film as copy film. As you pointed out, metallic silver is extremely robust and should last a long time with proper storage, especially with modern ESTAR/polyester backing as opposed to nitrate or acetate.

So for color is each film strip coated in a dye, or just standard B&W copy film that has been exposed to a color filter like the three strip Technicolor process?

The stock used for seps specifically is a particular type of B&W panchromatic separation film, the camera negative is exposed to this stock using a different gelatin filter each time to separate the red, green and blue layers onto individual positive records. ~~Each is then dyed its respective cyan, magenta and yellow colour.~~ Wrong! To create a new dupe negative element they contact print these using an RGB light which then assigns the complementary colour record (CMY respectively) onto the new negative. I'm honestly not sure what they do when the B&W seps are used for restoration though, whether each is scanned through its respective colour filter or they simply scan and overlay the colour to each sep in the computer.

Three-strip technicolour is slightly different because that was a negative process, the light being split in-camera as it was recorded onto three B&W negatives which were then printed to a special "matrix" stock. These matrices were then treated with the requisite colour dye (YCM again) and combined during printing to make dat glorious Technicolor! (These chemical dyes are not the same as the organic dyes that were used for single-strand colour film which is why the latter was/is so prone to fading.)

azmodeous · 02-01-2018, 08:42 PM

Didn't Warners release the box set and the original as a separate digibook on Blu-ray to appease everyone? I'm not sure how far apart that was though as I was late to the party for blu-ray.

Mr Anderson · 02-02-2018, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

THAT bit might be played up for effect, sure. But not the general walls of code that we see, that'd be overkill. I really hope the other movies are coming though, I gots to see that amazing freeway chase in Reloaded in HDR.

I want to see the Burly Brawl in HDR as well as The Freeway Chase, and seeing The Chataeu Battle should look great too!

tyrok · 02-02-2018, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

The other two films are complete horse dung. I wouldn't buy a set if that's the only way to get the first.

HD Goofnut · 02-02-2018, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dyne

Speed Racer in HDR would be eye melting.

Unfortunately, it wouldn't help the terrible script.

pab1219 · 02-02-2018, 07:11 PM

Only talking EYE CANDY.

FilmFreakosaurus · 02-02-2018, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by yarulbcool

Oh, you're so edgy.

No, I just have higher standards.

DJJez · 02-03-2018, 12:58 AM

german pre order is up may 24th

https://www.amazon.de/Matrix-4K-Ultr...ds=matrix%204k

imsounoriginal · 02-03-2018, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

The other two films are complete horse dung. I wouldn't buy a set if that's the only way to get the first.

I can understand not liking the third one (although I do), but the second is probably the one I've watched the most. First is far and away the best, but the second is the most fun IMHO. Lots of great action makes it easy to throw on whenever.

BluRayHiDef · 02-03-2018, 01:16 AM

I've got the BD and recall it looking rather soft and grainy even for a BD. So, I don't expect this to look great; I imagine that it'll be like the UHD transfer of Spider-Man, which is super grainy.

ROSS.T.G. · 02-03-2018, 01:22 AM

Good, I’ll love them then.

imsounoriginal · 02-03-2018, 01:40 AM

BD for the first movie is excellent, even with the tint. UHD should be a beauty.

legends of beyond · 02-03-2018, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by yarulbcool

The "oohmygosh i hate the matrix sequels so much" is about as common as the folks that fill hundreds of pages of star wars threads about how Lucas ruined their lives because he made changes to the originals. They're useless comments as you have to read several of them on every page of discussion. You don't like the films. We get it and we don't care. You aren't contributing anything new to the discussion that wasn't already said 30 times in this thread.

Regarding "higher standards," you have some pretty low quality films listed in your collection.

I mean, some of us just don't like it. It's not end of the world, just differing opinions.

OutOfBoose · 02-03-2018, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BluRayHiDef

I've got the BD and recall it looking rather soft and grainy even for a BD. So, I don't expect this to look great; I imagine that it'll be like the UHD transfer of Spider-Man, which is super grainy.

And I hope they don't touch the grain.

Ernest Rister · 02-03-2018, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by yarulbcool

The "oohmygosh i hate the matrix sequels so much" is about as common as the folks that fill hundreds of pages of star wars threads about how Lucas ruined their lives because he made changes to the originals. They're useless comments as you have to read several of them on every page of discussion. You don't like the films. We get it and we don't care. You aren't contributing anything new to the discussion that wasn't already said 30 times in this thread.

Regarding "higher standards," you have some pretty low quality films listed in your collection.

He's got a fine collection.

Pyoko · 02-03-2018, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

And I hope they don't touch the grain.

Yeah, WB have shown they can do both good and bad when it comes to that, but I'm hopeful the Batman Begins/Nolan situation was its own separate thing and we wont see any more of that.

The grain should be finer given that it's anamorphic, but there should also be a significant number of VFX shots with locked-in grain/resolution.

Mr Anderson · 02-03-2018, 08:14 AM

You take the Blu Pill; you stay in SDR land and see whatever you want to see...

You take the UltraRed Pill and I show you how bright the HDR rabbit hole goes!

Geoff D · 02-03-2018, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyoko

Yeah, WB have shown they can do both good and bad when it comes to that, but I'm hopeful the Batman Begins/Nolan situation was its own separate thing and we wont see any more of that.

The grain should be finer given that it's anamorphic, but there should also be a significant number of VFX shots with locked-in grain/resolution.

Matrix was Super 35.

reewinder · 02-03-2018, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Anderson

You take the Blu Pill; you stay in SDR land and see whatever you want to see...

You take the UltraRed Pill and I show you how bright the HDR rabbit hole goes!

[Show spoiler]

02-01-2018, 08:42 PM	#163
azmodeous Senior Member Member since:Sep 2010 4K collection:398 Blu-ray collection:1161 DVD collection:329 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1	Didn't Warners release the box set and the original as a separate digibook on Blu-ray to appease everyone? I'm not sure how far apart that was though as I was late to the party for blu-ray.

02-02-2018, 07:11 PM	#167
pab1219 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2008 4K collection:330 Blu-ray collection:2293 Trading Score:60	Only talking EYE CANDY.

02-03-2018, 12:58 AM	#169
DJJez Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 Location:Reading, England Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:1160 Blu-ray collection:2886 DVD collection:1 Trading Score:9	german pre order is up may 24th https://www.amazon.de/Matrix-4K-Ultr...ds=matrix%204k

02-03-2018, 01:16 AM	#171
BluRayHiDef Banned Member since:Sep 2011 Location:New York, New York 4K collection:99 Blu-ray collection:273	I've got the BD and recall it looking rather soft and grainy even for a BD. So, I don't expect this to look great; I imagine that it'll be like the UHD transfer of Spider-Man, which is super grainy.

02-03-2018, 01:22 AM	#172
ROSS.T.G. Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Ontario, Canada 4K collection:393 Blu-ray collection:1549 Blu-ray reviews:16	Good, I’ll love them then.

02-03-2018, 01:40 AM	#173
imsounoriginal Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:NYC 4K collection:320 Blu-ray collection:947 DVD collection:70 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:59	BD for the first movie is excellent, even with the tint. UHD should be a beauty.

02-03-2018, 08:14 AM	#178
Mr Anderson Active Member Member since:Jul 2017 Blu-ray collection:1	You take the Blu Pill; you stay in SDR land and see whatever you want to see... You take the UltraRed Pill and I show you how bright the HDR rabbit hole goes!

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