Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by BobSimms

Some people are just easy to please and/or really determined to not have buyer’s regret. It’s cute that Scream Factory has their die-hards, who actually like their often poor compression and hideous artwork.

I wonder if the forthcoming ESC Editions steelbook of this film uses the Lionsgate master, and if so what compression will be like? It won’t have the original mono, I’m sure, so I still won’t be buying this film on UHD. Someday, though… hope springs eternal.

https://www.esc-distribution.com/hor...432015040.html

That looks like a SWEET steel. Prolly the existing French UHD in there though.

As for Label Wars: hell hath no fury like a Shout fan scorned

[TheSweetieMan]

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

This site has probably the most informed user base on physical media, period.

Not trying to disrespect the entirety of your post, but I wanted to directly quote this part because it stood out the most.

I'll sound like an ass here, but I don't care because it needs to be said. I would argue the majority of users on here, especially in this sub-forum, are not that informed.

More often than not, people are complaining about a disc being too dark, an HDR grade being too reserved, or a film not having a native 4K-DI to actually just sit back and allow their setup and this format to operate as intended; WHICH IS TO PRESERVE CREATIVE INTENT.

That 'Heat' UHD thread can't be referenced enough. Because there were more than a handful of users on there that incoherently *****ed about the transfer, despite that film never looking better.

Also, I did concede that the 4K scan and HDR pass itself for the Scream Factory version of 'Halloween' is probably the best the film has ever looked. But it also isn't like the Lionsgate version was somehow bad or inaccurate either. Cundy has done so many passes for home releases for this film now, that it's hard to truly nail down what you would call a definitive version.

At the end of the day, the Lionsgate disc still uses a recent 4K scan itself, with an adequate enough HDR grade -- but pulls FAR away from the SF version with its substantially better encode alone.

[Geoff D]

And yes Sweetie I do realise the irony of me raging against the mass-consumption machine in this thread whilst telling you to stop doing the same in Marvel thread #57. Hypocrisy, maybe. Different priorities? Yeah let’s go with that

[TheSweetieMan]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

And yes Sweetie I do realise the irony of me raging against the mass-consumption machine in this thread whilst telling you to stop doing the same in Marvel thread #57. Hypocrisy, maybe. Different priorities? Yeah let’s go with that

I don't think it's ironic. We all have our passions for what we feel comfortable in expressing our opinions about -- be it positive or negative, even if it can sometimes feel more one-sided in the case of the latter from time to time.

[KubrickKurasawa]

69. Just saying.

[sancho]

Originally Posted by Bzoonoo

Shout sucks, let's just get that out of the way (they've botched too many films). H1 shows this and sadly we are stuck with the rest of the films being exclusive to their crappy encoding (scratches too)! Sure, it's better than mill Creek but they weren't charging 30 plus a pop! Also, the new cover art sucks, should have used the OG artwork for the hard slips

[K9 Mark V]

I don't get what all the fuss is about in terms of the compression for these releases. Is it perfect? No. They're better than a lot of StudioCanal releases though, and many people tolerate those. Compression is really the only negative I can see (other than SF's ignorance towards the tit glitch in the HDR10 layer of HII). Artwork is acceptable but you have the option of reversing the covers to the original poster art, these things are loaded with extras, there are many audio options to fit your tastes, plus these are a major step up in picture quality from the blu-rays, especially HIII onward. I would've gotten them all by now if it weren't for their retention of a $25+ price tag.

[Kyle15]

The audio is that neutered lossy track too. This release doesn't hold a candle to Arrow's best, Kino's best, even Shout's own best.

Would also like to point out I've noticed a pattern amongst different hobbies and such wherein the first to loudly exclaim "don't complain, you're entitled, etc" are usually the ones demanding things be done their way when they don't like the outcome. Conversational controllers I guess! They know what is actually bad and what's actually good because everything is black and white. Oh well time to consume again.

[Sky_Captain]

Horror fans are some of the most biggest apologists of shit.

"Haha, look how we f*cked up [insert franchise here] this time!"

"Oh well, it could be worse..."

**throws money**

[cuzzin]

Saw this post on Facebook:

[Nosferatu31]

Originally Posted by cuzzin

Saw this post on Facebook:

Wonder if it's a bootleg? I remember a few years back Walmart had Severin's Zombie 3 & 4 bootleg copies.

[concolt]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu31

Wonder if it's a bootleg? I remember a few years back Walmart had Severin's Zombie 3 & 4 bootleg copies.

Crazy I just saw a restock at Target with the slip box.

[Nosferatu31]

Originally Posted by concolt

Crazy I just saw a restock at Target with the slip box.

Yeah my local Best Buy just restocked Halloween with the slip box. I'd reach out to Shout and ask them if the slip is legit or not before buying.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by K9 Mark V

I don't get what all the fuss is about in terms of the compression for these releases. Is it perfect? No. They're better than a lot of StudioCanal releases though, and many people tolerate those. Compression is really the only negative I can see (other than SF's ignorance towards the tit glitch in the HDR10 layer of HII). Artwork is acceptable but you have the option of reversing the covers to the original poster art, these things are loaded with extras, there are many audio options to fit your tastes, plus these are a major step up in picture quality from the blu-rays, especially HIII onward. I would've gotten them all by now if it weren't for their retention of a $25+ price tag.

I wouldn’t even say “these releases”. A lot of people doing the anti-complaining complaining are saying that us persnickety losers are lumping the whole series together but that’s not the case. I think HII and HIII look pretty dang good with the full Dobly rebuild, and even the HDR layers aren’t StudioCanal-level pieces of shit (titty glitch aside). It’s the first H that suffers the most, there’s still some rancid blocking even in Dobly and without it the encode is an absolute mess with bizarre ‘pulsing’ of the grain that looks great for a frame, turns to crud for a few frames, looks great for a frame and so on.

Will 99.9% of people just look at it as one set of random noise being replaced by another, if they even notice it at all? Sure. And I’m happy for them, truly. But for me it’s unwatchable in HDR10 and barely salvageable in Dobly.

[bigdaddyhorse]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu31

Yeah my local Best Buy just restocked Halloween with the slip box. I'd reach out to Shout and ask them if the slip is legit or not before buying.

Please post Shout's reply if anyone does ask. Would be strange, but not unheard of, if it is a boot. If boot, then I'll be questioning every ****ing material thing's legitimacy from here out. Got my eye on a few non-material folks too.

[steev210]

My Walmart restocked Halloween a week or so ago and it was the rigid slip box.

[KubrickKurasawa]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu31

Wonder if it's a bootleg? I remember a few years back Walmart had Severin's Zombie 3 & 4 bootleg copies.

These have been out for almost a year now. 3-5 are really fine, yeah, minus HDR she-hulk titty part 2 needed to be cleaned up. Then part 1 needs a full redo, sorry. Did it even have a lossless PCM type track in Mono, eh neither does Friday The 13th 1-4 just those old Mono 192Kbps tracks. I guess people don't ***** enough, or lack any audio technical knowledge if you ask me. TCM did it first and did it right, albeit no USA release in 4K. Garbage 4King dumpster diving audio. wooo

[Brian81]

If they did go to slips, honestly I'd rather have had those for this series. It wasn't as if the hard boxes were really necessary, holding things other than a case like a UCE. Too late now, have clean (or very close to clean) copies of 1-5.

[NelsonDog]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That looks like a SWEET steel. Prolly the existing French UHD in there though.

As for Label Wars: hell hath no fury like a Shout fan scorned

I have the Lionsgate Steelbook release from 2020.

Is the French UHD Disc the same transfer?

[Storm_1980]

Originally Posted by cuzzin

Saw this post on Facebook:

I saw that at my local Best Buy Yesterday the Original Halloween had the Standard Slipcover not the Rigid one!