Superman: The Movie 4K UHD (1978)

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by KC-Technerd

The 5.1, although delivered in a lossy digital format, sounds far superior.

Dolby Digital 5.1 at 640 kbps is basically transparent to the source, anyway...

It's DOUBLE the bitrate of theatrical Dolby Digital

[Jlouisbarrett]

So we’ve confirmed that the 70mm 5.1 mix isn’t hiding in the Atmos track? I was holding out a tiny bit of hope that that’d be the case.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Jlouisbarrett

So we’ve confirmed that the 70mm 5.1 mix isn’t hiding in the Atmos track? I was holding out a tiny bit of hope that that’d be the case.

Like what we've been over before, that's not how Atmos on Blu-ray and Kalaidescape home video works. The 7.1 core track is a fold down of the Atmos remix.

[grahams76]

Originally Posted by Dr. T

We know exactly what's going on. The 2018 release with the 5.1 70mm six-track audio is no more. The current catalog release is the same picture and Atmos track from 2018 but now with the sonically inferior 2.0 track.

I foolishly sold my UK UHD (including the special edition blu-ray) when it was thought Warner was releasing a new transfer. Last week I bought a new copy from Rarewaves because it was cheap - I've just checked and it has the Atmos and 5.1 tracks. Interestingly, the included digital code has an 'expiry' date of December 2019. And the special edition blu-ray is again included despite the back of the box saying it's the theatrical cut.

[RalphoR]

Originally Posted by grahams76

I foolishly sold my UK UHD (including the special edition blu-ray) when it was thought Warner was releasing a new transfer. Last week I bought a new copy from Rarewaves because it was cheap - I've just checked and it has the Atmos and 5.1 tracks. Interestingly, the included digital code has an 'expiry' date of December 2019. And the special edition blu-ray is again included despite the back of the box saying it's the theatrical cut.

Is the special edition blu-ray only included in the UK release? Going to watch this at a local Cinemark tonight. Stoked!

[CarbonUnitM78]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner330

My local AMC theater had a "$5 Fan Faves" screening of Superman: The Movie. I'm not sure which master they used but it certainly looked and sounded fantastic.

I hadn't seen this since the 4K release in 2018, I had forgotten how much charm this movie has and how funny it can be! I almost didn't go but I'm so very happy I did.

I'll have to keep my eye open for more of these rereleases, I've been to Blade Runner & Star Trek: The Motion Picture. It'd be amazing if they also screened Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut!

At my local Regal they did in fact screen Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut along with the first movie.

As far as other rereleases, next week many theatres will be showing Return of the Jedi. And Fandango has listed a June 4 release for Raiders of the Lost Ark! Also Fathom Events shows classic films in theatres throughout the year. Here is what they have planned so far this year: https://www.fathomevents.com/events

[Indiana Jones]

Originally Posted by grahams76

I foolishly sold my UK UHD (including the special edition blu-ray) when it was thought Warner was releasing a new transfer. Last week I bought a new copy from Rarewaves because it was cheap - I've just checked and it has the Atmos and 5.1 tracks. Interestingly, the included digital code has an 'expiry' date of December 2019. And the special edition blu-ray is again included despite the back of the box saying it's the theatrical cut.

I did the same thing a few months ago but found a sealed copy of the UK release with slip for £10 at the weekend and I received my copies of 2-4 from HMV yesterday so I am good to go.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by grahams76

I foolishly sold my UK UHD (including the special edition blu-ray) when it was thought Warner was releasing a new transfer. Last week I bought a new copy from Rarewaves because it was cheap - I've just checked and it has the Atmos and 5.1 tracks. Interestingly, the included digital code has an 'expiry' date of December 2019. And the special edition blu-ray is again included despite the back of the box saying it's the theatrical cut.

Warners UK just copied the “includes theatrical cut on BD” blurb from the US 4K - which did and does come with the theatrical BD - and then put a new pressing of the old-ass VC-1 DD 5.1 special edition Blu-ray in there. They didn’t even use the reauthored Anthology version

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

and then put a new pressing of the old-ass VC-1 DD 5.1 special edition Blu-ray in there. They didn’t even use the reauthored Anthology version

[grahams76]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Warners UK just copied the “includes theatrical cut on BD” blurb from the US 4K - which did and does come with the theatrical BD - and then put a new pressing of the old-ass VC-1 DD 5.1 special edition Blu-ray in there. They didn’t even use the reauthored Anthology version

Does the special edition included with the extended cut also use the same old VC1 disc?

[mar3o]

Wow, they went all-out with that UHD box set.

[Bourne1886]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Wow, they went all-out with that UHD box set.

Hence that’s why I never bought it. WB are bloody cheap skates! The whole box set is a mess. Glad I saved my £130.00.

[Retro81]

Watched Superman 4k to get ready for the sequels and then watched the recap of the Lester version and it looked better than what I just watched....

[motorheadache95]

I do have to say I’m astonished at how many mistakes were made on this thing.
1) Replacing the loved 5.1 70mm track with the inferior 2.0 mix
2) Mixing rough demo score into the Atmos mix of Superman IV
3) Various photos of the wrong films on artwork (this is minor, but still)
4) Reauthoring the old VC-1 Blu-ray for the UK set
5) The Big One: Same problematic transfer of the original film, despite a supposed remaster/fix being either worked on or completed

Have I missed anything? Not including the Special Edition or Superman Returns is also lame but not a technical oversight from bad QC.

[starmike]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

I do have to say I’m astonished at how many mistakes were made on this thing.
1) Replacing the loved 5.1 70mm track with the inferior 2.0 mix
2) Mixing rough demo score into the Atmos mix of Superman IV
3) Various photos of the wrong films on artwork (this is minor, but still)
4) Reauthoring the old VC-1 Blu-ray for the UK set
5) The Big One: Same problematic transfer of the original film, despite a supposed remaster/fix being either worked on or completed

Have I missed anything? Not including the Special Edition or Superman Returns is also lame but not a technical oversight from bad QC.

It's immensely frustrating. Especially since some of these issues didn't come to light until people got their sets.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

I do have to say I’m astonished at how many mistakes were made on this thing.
1) Replacing the loved 5.1 70mm track with the inferior 2.0 mix
2) Mixing rough demo score into the Atmos mix of Superman IV
3) Various photos of the wrong films on artwork (this is minor, but still)
4) Reauthoring the old VC-1 Blu-ray for the UK set
5) The Big One: Same problematic transfer of the original film, despite a supposed remaster/fix being either worked on or completed

Have I missed anything? Not including the Special Edition or Superman Returns is also lame but not a technical oversight from bad QC.

You could also add dropping a ton of extras and not including both the theatrical and extended cuts of the first film in either the UK or US sets, and all the blu-rays being the old masters and not the remasters.

[grahams76]

So, sounds like Superman II is OK?! I only want to get the UK individual release.

[starmike]

Originally Posted by grahams76

So, sounds like Superman II is OK?! I only want to get the UK individual release.

There's a pitch issue in the main titles.

[grahams76]

Annoying, but that sounds pretty minor.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by grahams76

Annoying, but that sounds pretty minor.

This set is like "death by a thousand cuts". It all adds up.