Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi 4K UHD (2017)

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US Disc

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     The Last Jedi - Ultra HD™
Disc Label:     THE_LAST_JEDI
Disc Size:      66,443,697,884 bytes
Protection:     AACS2
Extras:         Ultra HD, BD-Java
BDInfo:         0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00800.MPLS
Length:                 2:31:51.685 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   64,678,729,536 bytes
Total Bitrate:          56.79 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-H HEVC Video       45913 kbps          2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR10 / Limited Range / BT.2020 / PQ / BT.2020 non-constant / Mastering display color primaries: Display P3 / Mastering display luminance: min: 0.0020 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
* MPEG-H HEVC Video     73 kbps             1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / Limited Range / BT.2020 / PQ / BT.2020 non-constant / Mastering display color primaries: Display P3 / Mastering display luminance: min: 0.0020 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Dolby TrueHD/Atmos Audio        English         4581 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  3941 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   640 kbps / DN -29dB)
Dolby Digital Plus Audio        English         1024 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  1024 kbps / DN -30dB (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   576 kbps / DN -30dB)
Dolby Digital Audio             English         320 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz /   320 kbps / DN -28dB
Dolby Digital Plus Audio        Spanish         1024 kbps       7.1 / 48 kHz /  1024 kbps / DN -28dB (AC3 Embedded: 5.1 / 48 kHz /   576 kbps / DN -28dB)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         29.140 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         24.184 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00007.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:02:05.750     916,341,504     58,257          
00018.M2TS      0:02:05.750     2:29:45.935     63,762,388,032  56,766          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:00:18.643     13,847 kbps     24,876 kbps     00:00:06.756    21,785 kbps     00:00:05.088    16,428 kbps     00:00:01.710    0 bytes         413,815 bytes   00:00:18.560    
2               0:00:18.643     0:01:27.087     44,403 kbps     49,502 kbps     00:01:14.991    47,967 kbps     00:00:40.749    47,272 kbps     00:00:35.744    0 bytes         629,174 bytes   00:01:01.603    
3               0:01:45.730     0:01:26.085     61,859 kbps     145,829 kbps    00:01:49.651    101,010 kbps    00:01:53.905    99,838 kbps     00:01:53.780    0 bytes         1,354,095 bytes 00:01:50.026    
4               0:03:11.816     0:04:31.479     50,234 kbps     123,217 kbps    00:07:27.738    87,927 kbps     00:05:28.536    81,083 kbps     00:05:26.451    0 bytes         1,222,872 bytes 00:04:36.734    
5               0:07:43.296     0:05:05.138     50,381 kbps     103,387 kbps    00:11:31.690    98,598 kbps     00:11:22.515    90,759 kbps     00:11:22.681    0 bytes         1,225,976 bytes 00:08:45.358    
6               0:12:48.434     0:00:56.139     37,978 kbps     74,749 kbps     00:13:43.572    53,178 kbps     00:13:39.568    45,600 kbps     00:13:34.563    0 bytes         756,455 bytes   00:13:44.406    
7               0:13:44.573     0:02:44.706     56,561 kbps     101,121 kbps    00:13:51.539    85,482 kbps     00:15:12.578    81,876 kbps     00:15:11.952    0 bytes         1,009,149 bytes 00:14:01.674    
8               0:16:29.279     0:03:30.001     60,845 kbps     92,080 kbps     00:19:53.567    77,606 kbps     00:19:49.521    72,129 kbps     00:19:48.562    0 bytes         901,311 bytes   00:18:30.943    
9               0:19:59.281     0:02:52.088     48,901 kbps     83,698 kbps     00:21:58.567    71,841 kbps     00:22:26.887    65,640 kbps     00:22:21.840    0 bytes         971,464 bytes   00:20:53.251    
10              0:22:51.369     0:03:13.610     37,924 kbps     89,698 kbps     00:24:22.711    84,621 kbps     00:24:22.127    64,577 kbps     00:23:03.757    0 bytes         673,288 bytes   00:24:23.336    
11              0:26:04.980     0:01:17.869     38,089 kbps     80,344 kbps     00:27:21.848    59,068 kbps     00:27:17.844    52,400 kbps     00:27:12.839    0 bytes         1,089,536 bytes 00:27:22.766    
12              0:27:22.849     0:04:01.908     56,789 kbps     109,918 kbps    00:29:14.252    101,443 kbps    00:29:23.511    100,030 kbps    00:29:23.553    0 bytes         1,348,658 bytes 00:29:23.595    
13              0:31:24.757     0:01:29.923     42,391 kbps     103,113 kbps    00:31:32.307    93,756 kbps     00:31:28.303    76,992 kbps     00:31:24.757    0 bytes         736,389 bytes   00:31:32.682    
14              0:32:54.681     0:02:32.986     44,158 kbps     91,358 kbps     00:35:22.370    62,684 kbps     00:34:53.508    57,524 kbps     00:34:47.502    0 bytes         842,838 bytes   00:33:01.396    
15              0:35:27.667     0:02:43.830     44,830 kbps     97,523 kbps     00:38:10.371    75,039 kbps     00:35:27.667    66,191 kbps     00:38:01.362    0 bytes         940,287 bytes   00:35:32.338    
16              0:38:11.497     0:03:41.930     37,974 kbps     74,394 kbps     00:41:52.343    56,365 kbps     00:41:48.339    52,535 kbps     00:41:43.334    0 bytes         603,034 bytes   00:41:53.135    
17              0:41:53.427     0:02:36.114     37,963 kbps     60,127 kbps     00:44:17.780    53,488 kbps     00:43:28.772    51,697 kbps     00:43:28.772    0 bytes         517,116 bytes   00:43:25.394    
18              0:44:29.541     0:02:21.933     48,972 kbps     84,951 kbps     00:46:47.346    69,759 kbps     00:46:46.428    64,962 kbps     00:46:38.337    0 bytes         849,181 bytes   00:46:51.350    
19              0:46:51.475     0:04:50.456     48,552 kbps     82,977 kbps     00:47:03.070    67,429 kbps     00:46:54.061    66,463 kbps     00:46:54.061    0 bytes         1,058,625 bytes 00:47:11.954    
20              0:51:41.932     0:02:08.127     43,727 kbps     99,471 kbps     00:53:45.513    78,596 kbps     00:53:41.551    61,065 kbps     00:53:40.050    0 bytes         716,344 bytes   00:53:45.639    
21              0:53:50.060     0:01:51.444     44,109 kbps     72,127 kbps     00:55:36.666    64,116 kbps     00:54:17.170    61,899 kbps     00:54:13.124    0 bytes         561,938 bytes   00:54:19.130    
22              0:55:41.504     0:01:58.076     37,910 kbps     82,295 kbps     00:57:38.496    62,047 kbps     00:57:34.492    53,719 kbps     00:57:29.487    0 bytes         650,783 bytes   00:57:38.997    
23              0:57:39.581     0:01:37.055     46,553 kbps     85,238 kbps     00:58:42.143    67,529 kbps     00:58:41.517    65,611 kbps     00:58:40.975    0 bytes         823,331 bytes   00:58:43.019    
24              0:59:16.636     0:02:49.210     45,583 kbps     88,925 kbps     01:01:20.093    70,920 kbps     01:01:16.089    65,449 kbps     01:01:11.084    0 bytes         1,169,236 bytes 01:01:20.676    
25              1:02:05.847     0:01:01.853     62,874 kbps     104,430 kbps    01:03:04.113    93,132 kbps     01:03:00.109    83,800 kbps     01:02:55.104    0 bytes         1,627,507 bytes 01:02:20.361    
26              1:03:07.700     0:02:34.028     43,683 kbps     85,511 kbps     01:05:34.972    70,821 kbps     01:05:30.801    62,872 kbps     01:05:26.464    0 bytes         712,233 bytes   01:05:35.598    
27              1:05:41.729     0:01:21.748     44,275 kbps     79,347 kbps     01:07:00.266    68,336 kbps     01:06:58.389    61,696 kbps     01:06:53.384    0 bytes         723,625 bytes   01:05:45.650    
28              1:07:03.477     0:03:22.243     38,048 kbps     86,763 kbps     01:10:21.425    68,801 kbps     01:10:17.546    60,187 kbps     01:10:12.583    0 bytes         595,439 bytes   01:10:21.467    
29              1:10:25.721     0:03:04.601     43,935 kbps     73,189 kbps     01:12:45.069    64,353 kbps     01:12:40.731    60,710 kbps     01:12:36.101    0 bytes         547,515 bytes   01:13:30.114    
30              1:13:30.322     0:04:13.127     37,963 kbps     70,172 kbps     01:15:45.123    56,503 kbps     01:15:42.287    51,373 kbps     01:15:10.297    0 bytes         536,561 bytes   01:15:58.220    
31              1:17:43.450     0:03:09.606     37,979 kbps     76,966 kbps     01:18:28.161    69,739 kbps     01:20:03.006    57,420 kbps     01:20:02.005    0 bytes         594,115 bytes   01:20:06.134    
32              1:20:53.056     0:03:24.913     72,946 kbps     117,693 kbps    01:22:04.502    103,052 kbps    01:22:43.541    99,906 kbps     01:22:55.178    0 bytes         1,389,932 bytes 01:23:34.926    
33              1:24:17.969     0:02:05.250     37,924 kbps     70,996 kbps     01:26:22.093    56,555 kbps     01:26:18.089    47,081 kbps     01:26:13.126    0 bytes         701,346 bytes   01:26:23.011    
34              1:26:23.219     0:01:36.304     37,998 kbps     79,847 kbps     01:27:58.523    65,122 kbps     01:27:54.519    54,920 kbps     01:27:49.514    0 bytes         676,607 bytes   01:27:59.232    
35              1:27:59.524     0:02:49.836     43,733 kbps     104,683 kbps    01:28:52.160    79,758 kbps     01:29:36.954    72,867 kbps     01:29:34.827    0 bytes         810,784 bytes   01:30:49.235    
36              1:30:49.360     0:02:05.208     37,941 kbps     67,660 kbps     01:32:50.773    61,071 kbps     01:32:49.480    55,479 kbps     01:32:44.433    0 bytes         701,826 bytes   01:32:54.402    
37              1:32:54.568     0:02:59.137     37,955 kbps     65,588 kbps     01:35:52.621    54,929 kbps     01:35:48.617    51,009 kbps     01:35:43.612    0 bytes         510,956 bytes   01:35:53.456    
38              1:35:53.706     0:01:16.910     37,979 kbps     74,255 kbps     01:37:05.444    66,882 kbps     01:37:01.732    55,777 kbps     01:36:56.769    0 bytes         593,267 bytes   01:37:05.694    
39              1:37:10.616     0:02:02.247     37,929 kbps     76,859 kbps     01:39:11.737    61,176 kbps     01:39:07.733    56,125 kbps     01:39:02.811    0 bytes         650,264 bytes   01:39:12.655    
40              1:39:12.863     0:02:54.799     37,917 kbps     86,882 kbps     01:42:06.578    56,887 kbps     01:42:02.616    53,388 kbps     01:40:00.994    0 bytes         690,026 bytes   01:42:07.120    
41              1:42:07.663     0:02:56.050     37,960 kbps     94,315 kbps     01:45:01.169    71,073 kbps     01:44:58.709    61,383 kbps     01:44:53.620    0 bytes         705,178 bytes   01:45:00.961    
42              1:45:03.714     0:04:31.980     64,766 kbps     109,523 kbps    01:46:27.881    102,677 kbps    01:46:25.879    89,074 kbps     01:46:21.249    0 bytes         1,298,623 bytes 01:49:35.568    
43              1:49:35.694     0:02:44.914     49,325 kbps     113,447 kbps    01:49:37.237    97,292 kbps     01:49:36.653    83,682 kbps     01:49:35.694    0 bytes         1,503,760 bytes 01:51:16.544    
44              1:52:20.608     0:03:44.140     64,861 kbps     105,575 kbps    01:53:27.175    96,027 kbps     01:52:32.162    93,327 kbps     01:52:29.492    0 bytes         1,195,238 bytes 01:52:21.526    
45              1:56:04.749     0:02:47.333     46,949 kbps     115,051 kbps    01:56:41.411    104,081 kbps    01:56:35.738    86,951 kbps     01:56:33.111    0 bytes         946,278 bytes   01:56:41.744    
46              1:58:52.083     0:04:19.050     64,704 kbps     109,248 kbps    02:03:08.589    93,807 kbps     02:03:06.087    86,936 kbps     02:01:41.836    0 bytes         937,037 bytes   02:03:05.628    
47              2:03:11.133     0:03:28.625     66,151 kbps     106,758 kbps    02:05:55.547    85,169 kbps     02:05:51.585    81,870 kbps     02:06:15.985    0 bytes         784,860 bytes   02:04:41.724    
48              2:06:39.758     0:05:03.845     45,525 kbps     99,952 kbps     02:07:25.095    89,764 kbps     02:07:21.133    70,834 kbps     02:07:16.295    0 bytes         645,349 bytes   02:07:21.675    
49              2:11:43.604     0:03:28.499     37,976 kbps     68,882 kbps     02:14:55.003    57,262 kbps     02:12:50.420    53,358 kbps     02:12:45.916    0 bytes         660,245 bytes   02:15:08.725    
50              2:15:12.103     0:05:04.595     55,141 kbps     110,162 kbps    02:16:13.582    97,103 kbps     02:16:11.079    87,439 kbps     02:18:27.882    0 bytes         840,144 bytes   02:16:14.416    
51              2:20:16.699     0:03:22.994     39,348 kbps     99,397 kbps     02:22:39.175    74,286 kbps     02:22:36.381    62,317 kbps     02:22:31.542    0 bytes         711,554 bytes   02:22:34.754    
52              2:23:39.694     0:08:11.991     14,971 kbps     33,239 kbps     02:27:58.494    32,899 kbps     02:27:56.867    31,822 kbps     02:27:53.656    0 bytes         759,472 bytes   02:27:59.662    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00007.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x24            HEVC                                    125.667                 46,844                  735,848,933     4,001,012       
00007.M2TS      4117 (0x1015)   0x24            HEVC                                    125.667                 68                      1,065,829       6,546           
00007.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x83            Atmos           eng (English)           125.667                 5,277                   82,890,664      546,266         
00007.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x84            AC3+            eng (English)           125.667                 1,025                   16,097,280      90,390          
00007.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           125.667                 320                     5,030,400       31,440          
00007.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x84            AC3+            spa (Spanish)           125.667                 1,025                   16,097,280      90,390          
00007.M2TS      4768 (0x12A0)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           125.667                 1                       17,985          105             
00007.M2TS      4769 (0x12A1)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           125.667                 25                      396,688         2,251           
00018.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x24            HEVC                                    8985.852                45,903                  51,559,413,648  280,342,922     
00018.M2TS      4117 (0x1015)   0x24            HEVC                                    8985.852                73                      81,571,668      498,306         
00018.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x83            Atmos           eng (English)           8985.852                4,572                   5,135,124,076   35,442,681      
00018.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x84            AC3+            eng (English)           8985.852                1,024                   1,150,201,856   6,458,653       
00018.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           8985.852                320                     359,438,080     2,246,488       
00018.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x84            AC3+            spa (Spanish)           8985.852                1,024                   1,150,201,856   6,458,653       
00018.M2TS      4768 (0x12A0)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           8985.852                30                      33,171,493      194,075         
00018.M2TS      4769 (0x12A1)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           8985.852                24                      27,148,945      159,049

Video #1
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Commercial name                          : HDR10
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 min 5 s
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0020 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
format_identifier                        : HDMV
Source                                   : 00007.m2ts

Video #2
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Commercial name                          : HDR10
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 min 5 s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0020 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
format_identifier                        : HDMV
Source                                   : 00007.m2ts

Video #3
ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Commercial name                          : HDR10
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 h 29 min
Width                                    : 3 840 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0020 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
format_identifier                        : HDMV
Source                                   : 00018.m2ts

Video #4
ID                                       : 4117 (0x1015)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : HEVC
Format/Info                              : High Efficiency Video Coding
Commercial name                          : HDR10
Format profile                           : Main 10@L5.1@High
Codec ID                                 : 36
Duration                                 : 2 h 29 min
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0 (Type 2)
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.2020
Transfer characteristics                 : PQ
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.2020 non-constant
Mastering display color primaries        : Display P3
Mastering display luminance              : min: 0.0020 cd/m2, max: 1000 cd/m2
format_identifier                        : HDMV
Source                                   : 00018.m2ts

Audio #1
ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3 MLP FBA 16-ch
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3 + Meridian Lossless Packing FBA with 16-channel presentation
Commercial name                          : Dolby TrueHD with Dolby Atmos
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 131
Duration                                 : 2 min 5 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 640 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 5 853 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
Channel layout                           : L R C LFE Ls Rs Lb Rb
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 9.59 MiB
Language                                 : English
Service kind                             : Complete Main
Number of dynamic objects                : 13
Bed channel count                        : 1
Bed channel count                        : 1 channel
Bed channel configuration                : LFE
bsid                                     : 6
dialnorm                                 : -29
dialnorm                                 : -29 dB
compr                                    : -2.14
compr                                    : -2.14 dB
dynrng                                   : -1.64
dynrng                                   : -1.64 dB
acmod                                    : 7
lfeon                                    : 1
dialnorm_Average                         : -29
dialnorm_Average                         : -29 dB
dialnorm_Minimum                         : -29
dialnorm_Minimum                         : -29 dB
dialnorm_Maximum                         : -29
dialnorm_Maximum                         : -29 dB
dialnorm_Count                           : 701
compr_Average                            : 4.84
compr_Average                            : 4.84 dB
compr_Minimum                            : -3.66
compr_Minimum                            : -3.66 dB
compr_Maximum                            : 6.02
compr_Maximum                            : 6.02 dB
compr_Count                              : 698
dynrng_Average                           : 4.87
dynrng_Average                           : 4.87 dB
dynrng_Minimum                           : -2.32
dynrng_Minimum                           : -2.32 dB
dynrng_Maximum                           : 6.02
dynrng_Maximum                           : 6.02 dB
dynrng_Count                             : 700
format_identifier                        : AC-3
Source                                   : 00007.m2ts

Audio #2
ID                                       : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : E-AC-3
Format/Info                              : Enhanced AC-3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital Plus
Format profile                           : Blu-ray Disc
Muxing mode                              : Stream extension
Codec ID                                 : 132
Duration                                 : 2 min 5 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 1 024 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 8 channels
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[tcripe]

Originally Posted by octagon

Right. Nobody thinks JJ is going to fully retcon things Rian setup.

Of course, on the basis of a teaser alone we've already got people saying it feels like a giant reset button was just pushed on E8 and it seems like JJ is trying to maneuver TLJ out of his timeline as much as possible.

But yeah, strawman.

This^

Of course JJ isn’t going to act like TLJ didn’t happen. But, he is definitely going to be maneuvering parts around to line the story back up with him and Kasdens original vision. Yes, I expect TLJ to be referenced in this film a lot. But, overall I think it’s safe to assume episode 9 is going to be more of a sequel to TFA than it will be to TLJ.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by tcripe

This^

Of course JJ isn’t going to act like TLJ didn’t happen. But, he is definitely going to be maneuvering parts around to line the story back up with him and Kasdens original vision. Yes, I expect TLJ to be referenced in this film a lot. But, overall I think it’s safe to assume episode 9 is going to be more of a sequel to TFA than it will be to TLJ.

Hell, just look at the trailer!

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by tcripe

This^

Of course JJ isn’t going to act like TLJ didn’t happen. But, he is definitely going to be maneuvering parts around to line the story back up with him and Kasdens original vision. Yes, I expect TLJ to be referenced in this film a lot. But, overall I think it’s safe to assume episode 9 is going to be more of a sequel to TFA than it will be to TLJ.

Or not at all since Jedi was not made in a vacuum

[octagon]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

What exactly did Rian set up? Nothing really happens in that "movie" of consequence, other than Luke dying.

Luke dying, Snoke dying and Rey not being a Kenobi or a Skywalker seem to be at the top of many retcon wishlists.

Originally Posted by tcripe

This^

Of course JJ isn’t going to act like TLJ didn’t happen. But, he is definitely going to be maneuvering parts around to line the story back up with him and Kasdens original vision. Yes, I expect TLJ to be referenced in this film a lot. But, overall I think it’s safe to assume episode 9 is going to be more of a sequel to TFA than it will be to TLJ.

What does that even mean though? If all you're saying is that IX is going to be more like a JJ movie than an RJ movie then yeah, I would think that is a pretty safe assumption.

But I don't see any major resets heading our way. There's a larger time gap this time around so JJ can shuffle the deck off-screen a little but what in TLJ is there to reset or maneuver around?

For all the sturm and drang TLJ did not majorly shake up the Star Wars universe. At least not in ways that JJ is likely to undo.

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by tcripe

This^

Of course JJ isn’t going to act like TLJ didn’t happen. But, he is definitely going to be maneuvering parts around to line the story back up with him and Kasdens original vision. Yes, I expect TLJ to be referenced in this film a lot. But, overall I think it’s safe to assume episode 9 is going to be more of a sequel to TFA than it will be to TLJ.

Cool story. Nice theory.

[tcripe]

Originally Posted by octagon

Luke dying, Snoke dying and Rey not being a Kenobi or a Skywalker seem to be at the top of many retcon wishlists.

Purely speculative, but Emperor coming back has me thinking Snoke was his puppet the whole time. His death was planned by the emperor from the beginning to propel Kylo down an even darker path.

Luke is dead, that will not be changed.

When it comes to Rey..... I honestly have zero idea where JJ is going to go with her past.

Would love to hear everyone's theories though!

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by tcripe

When it comes to Rey..... I honestly have zero idea where JJ is going to go with her past.

A moment ago you were confident that he was going to line it back up with his and Kasdan's original vision.

What was their original vision, incidentally?

[tcripe]

Originally Posted by Martoto

A moment ago you were confident that he was going to line it back up with his and Kasdan's original vision.

What was their original vision, incidentally?

We will find out in 8 months time

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by tcripe

We will find out in 8 months time

Sounded like you already knew. You're not so sure now?

[nick4Knight]

So much "gotcha" attempts going on. #internetwinning

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by nick4Knight

So much "gotcha" attempts going on. #internetwinning

That sounds a wee bit paranoid.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by reanimator

Orrrrr... what if, there is, a-no-ther, Sky-walk-er?

Seriously. There are strong hints at the end of this teaser. A fallen Skywalker who rises again? Completing a saga?

The Rise of Skywalker refers to Broom Boy. It will be revealed that he’s Luke’s long lost son. Maybe they’ll clone him too and we’ll get a sequel called Attack of the Broom Boys.

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

The Rise of Skywalker refers to Broom Boy. It will be revealed that he’s Luke’s long lost son.

I freeging hope NOT. Ugh, can we NOT have more sons, daughters, nieces, uncles and all that? Its fine if they use that kid in some roll but lets not make him Lukes offspring. Please.

[bobbyh64]

Actually, the title is a typo. It’s supposed to say The Rose of Skywalker. It will be revealed that Rose is Luke’s daughter and is actually an evil Sith Lord.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Actually, the title is a typo. It’s supposed to say The Rose of Skywalker. It will be revealed that Rose is Luke’s daughter and is actually an evil Sith Lord.

Day. One.

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Actually, the title is a typo. It’s supposed to say The Rose of Skywalker. It will be revealed that Rose is Luke’s daughter and is actually an evil Sith Lord.

Princess Rose, to you.

[Nothing371]

Ep.9 is not going to retcon ep.8. That would tear down the whole trilogy in the process, which is 2/3s JJ's movies. It would be a train wreck for everyone involved; that's not going to happen. Whatever changes and modifications JJ makes are going to be delicate and subliminal.

I'm still having a tough time wrapping my head around the fact that we got another trilogy about the Skywalkers. The cameos in ep.7 were cute and all. Then things got out of hand.

[steel_breeze]

Watched this again tonight, for what must be the tenth time or so. To my mind, this is an absolute masterpiece; easily my third fave after STAR WARS and EMPIRE. I know, I know, it didn't go the way people expected, yadda yadda yadda.... but to me that's what's so friggin' brilliant about it. It's a treatise on subverted expectations and dealing with failure. And what Luke does at the end is the most Jedi thing we've ever seen a Jedi do (it's all about defense, after all, never attack)... and it also happens to be the most badass thing we've ever ever seen a Jedi do. "Did you think I was going to face down the whole First Order with a laser sword?" Nope?... well, I'll do it anyway... and in a way NO ONE saw coming. Love it. Bring on the RISE.

[bobbyh64]

The title refers to Luke Skywalker’s body rising out of the ground and becoming a Force Zombie.