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#25 |
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For whatever it's worth, I gave my German 4K disc a spin and I only have positive things to say about it. I managed to catch this one at the cinema during its exceptionally brief cinema run, and told myself to remember just how textured it looked on the big screen - down to a layer of source noise that accentuates the fine detail of the image. Happy to report that the 4K disc capably recreates what I recall witnessing at the cinema. The textures are tight and refined, it's always sharp as a tack, fine detail is excellent, and highlights are perhaps too good, as the result isn't exactly flattering to the likes of Willis or Dean Norris. And just to top it all off, the source noise is there. It's not in-your-face apparent like Sony grain (or even noise in other digital productions like Rampage or It), but it's there for those of you who have an eye for noticing details like that. It's also so fine that "grain haters" can probably turn on the TV's noise reduction and the disc'll still look good. I'm just thankful that the image wasn't filtered unnecessarily (a la 12 Strong), nor is there any edge enhancement. The image is untouched and natural for purists, while those who prefer digital tools can fiddle with their TV settings as much as they want.
The Dolby Vision HDR remains the biggest selling point of the disc. I'm DV-compatible so it was a nice bonus to get it on the disc. This does not represent a radical application of HDR, but it ensures that shadow detail and highlights are superior, while the palette itself is truer and more vibrant. Black levels are also deeper and contrast is spot-on. A fair chunk of the movie takes place at night, and the 4K is up to the task of ensuring textures remain strong in such sequences. Of course, too, the HDR works to bring out more nuances when harsh light sources are involved - just see the background buildings when Paul assassinates the ice cream man; you can better make out every individual brick. I only did some cursory comparisons with the included Blu-ray disc, and the 4K trumps it at every turn. I wouldn't exactly say that this is a Top 5 presentation due to the nature of the production (dingy locations, no major SFX sequences), but it's tighter and more consistent than any number of other 4K titles. As for the movie itself, I can't say it's especially good from a critical perspective - the thematic detail is pared down to a bare minimum to ensure a mainstream product, credulity is certainly strained for a "gritty" modern take, and D'Onofrio's character still seems cartoonishly, OTT shady which suggests he's part of what happened but that leads nowhere - but I found enough to enjoy. It's slick, Willis appears to be awake, the shootouts are fine, the gore is satisfying. I'd just like to see what Joe Carnahan had in mind before his script was subjected to a Page 1 rewrite. Carnahan has even gone as far as saying that he could produce a movie from his script and it would be different enough compared to what we ultimately got. For those interested, the disc itself is English-friendly. They didn't grab a German master with German-language titles, nor are there any forced subs. It's easy enough to navigate the main menu - before starting the movie, I just selected the English track and I was as good as gold. This remake isn't getting much love and I can understand why a 4K release didn't materalize in the States given the harsh reception and poor box office. But for those who want to own the movie in the best possible quality, this is a good option. |
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Blu-ray Samurai
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My German copy of this turned up a couple of days ago, and I watched it last night. It's an excellent-looking 4k disc, pinpoint sharp to my tired old eyes, with deep blacks, bright HDR lighting and just a really nice, filmic look. Definitely one of the better 4k discs I've watched recently.
The sound is 'only' DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1, but sounds crystal clear. My only question to the guy above me, is are you sure it has Dolby Vision? I'm pretty sure my copy doesn't. Or perhaps they released two versions on disc? |
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German Disc
Code:
DISC INFO:
Disc Label: UHD_DEATHWISH
Disc Size: 64,890,538,073 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5
PLAYLIST REPORT:
Name: 00002.MPLS
Length: 1:48:18.325 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 63,841,326,912 bytes
Total Bitrate: 78.59 Mbps
(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.
VIDEO:
Codec Bitrate Description
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MPEG-H HEVC Video 53725 kbps 2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR10 / Limited Range / BT.2020 / PQ / BT.2020 non-constant / Mastering display color primaries: Display P3 / Mastering display luminance: min: 0.0000 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2 / Maximum Content Light Level: 1098 cd / m2 / Maximum Frame-Average Light Level: 979 cd/m2
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 13472 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / Limited Range / BT.2020 / PQ / BT.2020 non-constant / Mastering display color primaries: Display P3 / Mastering display luminance: min: 0.0000 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2
AUDIO:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
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DTS-HD Master Audio German 3528 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3528 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit / DN -3dB)
DTS-HD Master Audio English 3562 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 3562 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit / DN -4dB)
DTS Audio English 320 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 320 kbps / 24-bit / DN -4dB
SUBTITLES:
Codec Language Bitrate Description
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Presentation Graphics German 27.899 kbps
Presentation Graphics English 32.813 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 0.586 kbps
FILES:
Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
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00002.M2TS 0:00:00.000 1:47:43.290 63,800,163,072 78,968
00003.M2TS 1:47:43.290 0:00:35.034 41,163,840 9,377
CHAPTERS:
Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
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1 0:00:00.000 0:10:31.631 48,521 kbps 87,253 kbps 00:06:37.855 77,567 kbps 00:04:11.334 74,477 kbps 00:08:33.679 0 bytes 1,118,537 bytes 00:04:19.175
2 0:10:31.631 0:10:06.230 62,523 kbps 83,519 kbps 00:16:01.418 76,595 kbps 00:13:08.037 74,938 kbps 00:19:02.141 0 bytes 963,102 bytes 00:12:03.639
3 0:20:37.861 0:08:20.249 42,468 kbps 78,552 kbps 00:26:03.770 74,663 kbps 00:24:03.316 73,087 kbps 00:24:03.316 0 bytes 1,537,141 bytes 00:24:19.374
4 0:28:58.111 0:09:43.583 60,923 kbps 88,624 kbps 00:35:47.562 77,119 kbps 00:32:52.095 74,869 kbps 00:32:51.344 0 bytes 1,285,862 bytes 00:36:11.085
5 0:38:41.694 0:10:24.999 60,837 kbps 89,518 kbps 00:43:02.288 77,148 kbps 00:45:53.292 74,692 kbps 00:48:56.183 0 bytes 1,014,994 bytes 00:48:07.175
6 0:49:06.693 0:12:17.236 51,417 kbps 92,180 kbps 00:55:21.735 78,601 kbps 00:54:37.524 74,548 kbps 00:56:22.504 0 bytes 962,939 bytes 00:55:21.818
7 1:01:23.930 0:08:56.619 62,017 kbps 92,675 kbps 01:05:47.777 77,689 kbps 01:08:09.585 75,337 kbps 01:05:53.074 0 bytes 975,294 bytes 01:06:02.458
8 1:10:20.549 0:10:00.224 63,245 kbps 101,398 kbps 01:16:22.452 77,881 kbps 01:15:05.667 75,131 kbps 01:14:39.391 0 bytes 953,164 bytes 01:15:39.284
9 1:20:20.774 0:09:56.804 57,967 kbps 93,811 kbps 01:22:31.196 77,569 kbps 01:23:29.629 74,508 kbps 01:25:20.031 0 bytes 941,160 bytes 01:28:11.661
10 1:30:17.578 0:10:54.820 60,386 kbps 84,713 kbps 01:37:18.290 77,148 kbps 01:33:10.376 74,621 kbps 01:36:42.379 0 bytes 1,035,778 bytes 01:32:39.303
11 1:41:12.399 0:07:05.925 5,810 kbps 24,075 kbps 01:47:41.329 11,149 kbps 01:47:25.689 9,930 kbps 01:47:21.977 0 bytes 524,349 bytes 01:47:41.580
STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:
File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
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00002.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x24 HEVC 6463.207 53,999 43,625,761,046 237,189,217
00002.M2TS 4117 (0x1015) 0x24 HEVC 6463.207 13,538 10,937,471,798 59,535,252
00002.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA deu (German) 6463.207 3,539 2,859,080,464 16,548,042
00002.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x86 DTS-HD MA eng (English) 6463.207 3,573 2,886,556,536 16,696,097
00002.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x82 DTS eng (English) 6463.207 318 256,915,592 1,817,799
00002.M2TS 4768 (0x12A0) 0x90 PGS deu (German) 6463.207 28 22,655,106 132,322
00002.M2TS 4769 (0x12A1) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 6463.207 33 26,646,314 154,790
00002.M2TS 4770 (0x12A2) 0x90 PGS deu (German) 6463.207 1 468,027 2,731
00003.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x24 HEVC 34.952 3,558 15,544,708 85,091
00003.M2TS 4117 (0x1015) 0x24 HEVC 34.952 1,360 5,941,284 32,825
00003.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA deu (German) 34.952 1,579 6,898,500 42,705
00003.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x86 DTS-HD MA eng (English) 34.952 1,579 6,898,500 42,705
00003.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x82 DTS eng (English) 34.952 319 1,392,840 9,855
00003.M2TS 4768 (0x12A0) 0x90 PGS deu (German) 34.952 2 7,842 50
00003.M2TS 4769 (0x12A1) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 34.952 2 7,842 50
00003.M2TS 4770 (0x12A2) 0x90 PGS deu (German) 34.952 2 7,842 50
Code:
Video #1 ID : 4113 (0x1011) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Commercial name : HDR10 Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High Codec ID : 36 Duration : 1 h 47 min Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2) Bit depth : 10 bits Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.2020 Transfer characteristics : PQ Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant Mastering display color primaries : Display P3 Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2 Maximum Content Light Level : 1098 cd/m2 Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 979 cd/m2 format_identifier : HDMV Source : 00002.m2ts Video #2 ID : 4117 (0x1015) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Commercial name : HDR10 Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High Codec ID : 36 Duration : 1 h 47 min Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2) Bit depth : 10 bits Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.2020 Transfer characteristics : PQ Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant Mastering display color primaries : Display P3 Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2 format_identifier : HDMV Source : 00002.m2ts Video #3 ID : 4113 (0x1011) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Commercial name : HDR10 Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High Codec ID : 36 Duration : 35 s 35 ms Width : 3 840 pixels Height : 2 160 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2) Bit depth : 10 bits Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.2020 Transfer characteristics : PQ Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant Mastering display color primaries : Display P3 Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2 Maximum Content Light Level : 1098 cd/m2 Maximum Frame-Average Light Level : 979 cd/m2 format_identifier : HDMV Source : 00003.m2ts Video #4 ID : 4117 (0x1015) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : HEVC Format/Info : High Efficiency Video Coding Commercial name : HDR10 Format profile : Main 10@L5.1@High Codec ID : 36 Duration : 35 s 35 ms Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate : 23.976 (24000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 (Type 2) Bit depth : 10 bits Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.2020 Transfer characteristics : PQ Matrix coefficients : BT.2020 non-constant Mastering display color primaries : Display P3 Mastering display luminance : min: 0.0050 cd/m2, max: 4000 cd/m2 format_identifier : HDMV Source : 00003.m2ts Audio #1 ID : 4352 (0x1100) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : DTS XLL Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Commercial name : DTS-HD Master Audio Muxing mode : Stream extension Codec ID : 134 Duration : 1 h 47 min Bit rate mode : Variable Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF) Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossless Language : German Source : 00002.m2ts Audio #2 ID : 4353 (0x1101) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : DTS XLL Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Commercial name : DTS-HD Master Audio Muxing mode : Stream extension Codec ID : 134 Duration : 1 h 47 min Bit rate mode : Variable Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF) Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossless Language : English Source : 00002.m2ts Audio #3 ID : 4354 (0x1102) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Codec ID : 130 Duration : 1 h 47 min Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 318 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF) Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 245 MiB Language : English Source : 00002.m2ts Audio #4 ID : 4352 (0x1100) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : DTS XLL Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Commercial name : DTS-HD Master Audio Muxing mode : Stream extension Codec ID : 134 Duration : 35 s 29 ms Bit rate mode : Variable Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF) Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossless Language : German Source : 00003.m2ts Audio #5 ID : 4353 (0x1101) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : DTS XLL Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Commercial name : DTS-HD Master Audio Muxing mode : Stream extension Codec ID : 134 Duration : 35 s 29 ms Bit rate mode : Variable Channel(s) : 6 channels Channel layout : C L R Ls Rs LFE Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF) Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossless Language : English Source : 00003.m2ts Audio #6 ID : 4354 (0x1102) Menu ID : 1 (0x1) Format : DTS Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems Codec ID : 130 Duration : 35 s 40 ms Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 318 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 93.750 FPS (512 SPF) Bit depth : 24 bits Compression mode : Lossy Stream size : 1.33 MiB Language : English Source : 00003.m2ts |
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#30 |
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I have the Italian version and that definitely does not have DV, I can't say for the German version as I only have the Italian version.
I play my UHD on a Panasonic 820 into a LG OLED G6, neither the TV nor the player indicate DV during playback as they normally do for DV titles. As stated in one of the earlier posts there are a number of hard coded "subtitles" in the picture when translating key English text from things like posters and signs, not very intrusive and only maybe 3 or 4 times, very brief. Overall I quite like the presentation, not like reference wow but decent enough. |
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#31 |
Blu-ray Samurai
Jun 2007
Singapore
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Anybody with the German 4K disc can confirm this plays in all regions?
Someone from a Facebook group says his disc is locked to B. |
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#33 |
Blu-ray Samurai
Jun 2007
Singapore
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