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Old 04-11-2019, 07:43 PM   #2381
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I’m sure it’s made it’s money back by now with all the 4k, Blu-ray and dvd editions the world over.
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Old 04-11-2019, 09:31 PM   #2382
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I could literally say the same thing
Literally nobody who worked on the film has said anything that agrees with you. He wasn't fired. Joss was hired before Snyder left, working on rewrites originally that Snyder would have directed and edited.
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Old 04-11-2019, 09:33 PM   #2383
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You guys are literally throwing around the word literally a lot.
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:20 PM   #2384
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Literally nobody who worked on the film has said anything that agrees with you. He wasn't fired. Joss was hired before Snyder left, working on rewrites originally that Snyder would have directed and edited.
Because we've literally heard from everyone who worked on the films. Agree to disagree..lol

Ps... that literally wasfor you DRossi
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Old 04-11-2019, 10:26 PM   #2385
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Literally! We're on this again. Literally?!?!
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Old 04-11-2019, 11:03 PM   #2386
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Literally nobody who worked on the film has said anything that agrees with you. He wasn't fired. Joss was hired before Snyder left, working on rewrites originally that Snyder would have directed and edited.
Nope, nope, nope. Snyder doesn't even know about the content of the reshoots. Fans have asked him on Vero about certain scenes (like those dedicated to the Russian family) and he had no idea what they were referring to.
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Old 04-11-2019, 11:05 PM   #2387
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I still can't tell how much of Snyder's social media presence is him either trolling or just stoking the flames of his most adoring fans. But still, I'm pretty sure he had nothing to do with the reshoots. And even if they were what he wanted to eventually do, they certainly didn't turn out the way he would've done them.
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Old 04-12-2019, 02:35 AM   #2388
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Nope, nope, nope. Snyder doesn't even know about the content of the reshoots. Fans have asked him on Vero about certain scenes (like those dedicated to the Russian family) and he had no idea what they were referring to.
The reshoots kept being written after he left and were only shot once he left. He probably never saw the completed scripts for them but the basic ideas for some of those scenes actually came from Snyder.

It's clear Whedon and WB took it quite a lot beyond what was originally planned.
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Old 04-12-2019, 03:45 AM   #2389
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It is so depressing we'll never get to see Snyder's vision concluded but he gave us bvs and he's a lovely man for that.
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Old 04-12-2019, 03:47 AM   #2390
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Unfortunately Snyder's original vision isn't even what we would have gotten if he had stayed on to finish the project. After BvS was released, WB was already making him change the tone from the darker vision he had set out to something more lighter, more Avengers-like.
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Old 04-12-2019, 08:00 AM   #2391
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Unfortunately Snyder's original vision isn't even what we would have gotten if he had stayed on to finish the project. After BvS was released, WB was already making him change the tone from the darker vision he had set out to something more lighter, more Avengers-like.
Yeah general audiences ruin everything
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Old 04-12-2019, 10:12 AM   #2392
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General audiences are how these movies make money.
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Old 04-12-2019, 11:38 AM   #2393
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Unfortunately Snyder's original vision isn't even what we would have gotten if he had stayed on to finish the project. After BvS was released, WB was already making him change the tone from the darker vision he had set out to something more lighter, more Avengers-like.
Justice League was always going to be a lighter movie.
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Old 04-12-2019, 12:03 PM   #2394
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Justice League was always going to be a lighter movie.
From the point where filming began, you're absolutely correct. However, that wasn't always true earlier in preproduction. You must not have seen the recent video of Snyder describing some of his original ideas as well as how WB responded to them.

He had a full script written before BvS came out, and it had some seriously dark stuff in it. After BvS, WB was afraid of letting him go that dark, so they had him switch things up and do a full rewrite before filming even began, including a lighter tone and removing a lot of the darker elements that were planned while BvS was being made, and tied into some of those events as well.
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Old 04-12-2019, 12:11 PM   #2395
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General audiences are how these movies make money.
Must follow the money trail. It's just sound business tactics.
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Old 04-12-2019, 05:54 PM   #2396
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General audiences are how these movies make money.
I know but they still hated bvs and ignored watchmen so they're swine.
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Old 04-12-2019, 08:29 PM   #2397
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From the point where filming began, you're absolutely correct. However, that wasn't always true earlier in preproduction. You must not have seen the recent video of Snyder describing some of his original ideas as well as how WB responded to them.

He had a full script written before BvS came out, and it had some seriously dark stuff in it. After BvS, WB was afraid of letting him go that dark, so they had him switch things up and do a full rewrite before filming even began, including a lighter tone and removing a lot of the darker elements that were planned while BvS was being made, and tied into some of those events as well.
Too dark wasn't my issue. I don't mind the movie, but the first half pacing was darn atrocious.
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Old 04-12-2019, 08:50 PM   #2398
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Too dark wasn't my issue. I don't mind the movie, but the first half pacing was darn atrocious.
Theatrical or ultimate?
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Old 04-12-2019, 10:54 PM   #2399
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Too dark wasn't my issue. I don't mind the movie, but the first half pacing was darn atrocious.
I find the pacing in the ultimate cut impressive as its 3 hours long and has plenty of dialogue. Lots of solid editing and tons of locations and intersecting plots keep me interested anyway
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