Pitch Black 4K UHD (2000)

[Kyle15]

The scene in question has a bleach-bypass look, and the Arrow appears to faithfully present it. The Universal disc is extremely manipulated.

[KMFDMvsEnya]

I would not read much into this cap.
Its providence is unclear.

Originally Posted by Rusty100

[Show spoiler]I was really curious to see how the 'blue saturated' outdoor scenes looked in this. Colour grading that messed up would have to be improved in the 4k. And thankfully it has been! No more blown out highlights, and it's not a purely blue filter anymore. You can very faintly see the original colours under the blue. Assuming it was re-graded, they did a really good job keeping it faithful but improving over the garishness of the original grade.

The usual disclaimer about the HDR > SDR conversion, at 200nits, and this image has some jpeg compression. The 4k highlights are brighter in person on a proper display.

BD


UHD


You'll notice most easily on his ear, but there's some subtle pink back in his skin!

Originally Posted by laserline

[Show spoiler]Not sure about that. At least in this shot, despite its flaws being overly sharp(end), the Universal looks more natural. Using your method to take a deeper more analytical dive. Analysing the chroma channels, the Universal disc looks much more nuanced in that regard. Arrow is full of colour banding, chroma is just a mess (the luma also has problems with banding, look at the sky), where Universal looks at least halfway more nuanced/natural.

Universal BD Y-CB-CR


Arrow UHD Y-CB-CR

[Rusty100]

Originally Posted by laserline

Not sure about that. At least in this shot, despite its flaws being overly sharp(end), the Universal looks more natural. Using your method to take a deeper more analytical dive. Analysing the chroma channels, the Universal disc looks much more nuanced in that regard. Arrow is full of colour banding, chroma is just a mess (the luma also has problems with banding, look at the sky), where Universal looks at least halfway more nuanced/natural.

Universal BD Y-CB-CR


Arrow UHD Y-CB-CR

I'm positive the banding was the jpeg + imgur compression.

[ninfan81]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Damn! Does anybody watch movies for entertainment purposes anymore? Everybody wants to be a QC inspector and a critic instead. All they ever talk about is the video quality.

Imagine wanting a movie to look good since the prime activity is WATCHING it.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Damn! Does anybody watch movies for entertainment purposes anymore? Everybody wants to be a QC inspector and a critic instead. All they ever talk about is the video quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ChJ...ature=youtu.be

1) The vast majority of people have year's/decades of film watching under there belt. So very few haven't actually seen a film.
2) Not scrutinising the AV quality of a release would mean distributors have no accountability in delivering accurate/faithful digital recreations of film's for home viewing. And what would be the point of Blu-ray media existing in the first place if you didn't want high quality HD or UHD video?
3) Why did I just have to explain the blindingly obvious above? You are on an enthusiast forum.

[atamo]

Originally Posted by AreaFive

Due to Pitch Black's delay, Flash Gordon will now be their first 4K release both in the US and UK.

Except that Flash Gordon is not being released by Arrow in the UK. It's released by Studio Canal. However, the US release of Flash Gordon is Arrow's first UHD release worldwide.

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by atamo

Except that Flash Gordon is not being released by Arrow in the UK. It's released by Studio Canal. However, the US release of Flash Gordon is Arrow's first UHD release worldwide.

That's a bit Irish...

[Neutron82]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Damn! Does anybody watch movies for entertainment purposes anymore? Everybody wants to be a QC inspector and a critic instead. All they ever talk about is the video quality.

Pitch Black is already available on dvd since a/v quality doesn't matter to you

[RD1973]

Apparently, the bluray is still coming out on 8/18. Any idea why the 4K has been pushed back to 9/1?

Also, will this release be available in stores, or online only?

[minister_x]

Originally Posted by atamo

Except that Flash Gordon is not being released by Arrow in the UK. It's released by Studio Canal. However, the US release of Flash Gordon is Arrow's first UHD release worldwide.

Well if we're going to be setting the record straight, Pitch Black is still going to win as the UK date hasn't been pushed back like the US:

17th August: Pitch Black 4K released in UK
18th August: Flash Gordon 4K released in US

[Pieter V]

Disc Size: 96,714,154,081 bytes
Protection: AACS2
Extras: Ultra HD
BDInfo: 0.7.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00101.MPLS
Length: 1:51:45.708 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 63,882,906,432 bytes
Total Bitrate: 76.21 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
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MPEG-H HEVC Video 68041 kbps 2160p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / HDR10 / BT.2020
* MPEG-H HEVC Video 102 kbps 1080p / 24 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 10 bits / Dolby Vision / BT.2020

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 4157 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4157 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -31dB
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / DN -31dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 25.969 kbps

[AreaFive]

Originally Posted by atamo

Except that Flash Gordon is not being released by Arrow in the UK. It's released by Studio Canal. However, the US release of Flash Gordon is Arrow's first UHD release worldwide.

Fine, if it's your desire to split hairs then one could also point out that Studio Canal did the restoration on Flash Gordon not Arrow, leaving Pitch Black as Arrow's first remastering of a 4K UHD regardless of varying regional release dates and/or distribution agreements or licensing.

Regardless, I never had any intent or interest in debating all of this minutiae, my point was simply that, as Arrow is new to 4K, of course, people are going to be greatly interested in its image quality. The fact that Pitch Black is a beloved cult classic heightens the interest even more.

[Sterling450]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

I hoped that it would be a 100gb disc, this is excellent news, thank you!

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

Cheers Pieter.

[HDM_fan]

Odd it's 24.000 fps vs. 23.976.

[KMFDMvsEnya]

I hope that is a misread on the BDInfo's part, otherwise there is going to be frame drop issues like with the remastered Total Recall blu-ray.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya

I hope that is a misread on the BDInfo's part, otherwise there is going to be frame drop issues like with the remastered Total Recall blu-ray.

I'll say yes. It just rounded it up.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya

I hope that is a misread on the BDInfo's part, otherwise there is going to be frame drop issues like with the remastered Total Recall blu-ray.

What, the 24fps rather than 23.98? It'll only cause frame drops if people have a piece of shit player or TV that can't handle it. Hasn't been an issue for years, to wit: if people have the Lionsgate UHD Blu-rays of, say, Lock Up or Universal Soldier or the Rambo trilogy or any of StudioCanal's Euro-only UHDs then they've been merrily watching 24fps without incident. Nothing to see here, move along.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

What, the 24fps rather than 23.98? It'll only cause frame drops if people have a piece of shit player or TV that can't handle it.

Where you been hiding Geoff?

[KMFDMvsEnya]

I haven't watched TR from the BR disc since I purchased my 203 but my old Panasonic BR player did cause the frame drop.