Terminator: Dark Fate 4K UHD (2019)

[overmang5]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

It didn't sound like different takes to me, they just edited it to condense the speech a bit and to remove her reference to Silberman by name, although he still clearly speaks to her (again, with the original take as used in T2) so he's not gone completely.

Odd, sounded a bit off to me. Will need to see it again to verify though.

Still definitely picking it up in 4K when its out.

[ramzy1]

The wife liked this as well. Her highlight was crass Linda Hamilton. She also liked Mackenzie Davis and her character.

She thought Dani was the weak link and didn't care for the portrayal by the actress.

She said the plot and references were easy to follow for someone that has seen the others, but not invested in them.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by ramzy1

She said the plot and references were easy to follow for someone that has seen the others, but not invested in them.

That's pretty much what I think they were going for, it wasn't just made for the die-hard fans.

[styxrogan]

Grace Randolph the best Utube reviewer shredded this movie

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by styxrogan

Grace Randolph the best Utube reviewer shredded this movie

Never even heard of that Grace.... But Grace from DF....

[Colson]

Originally Posted by overmang5

Odd, sounded a bit off to me. Will need to see it again to verify though.

Still definitely picking it up in 4K when its out.

I watched T2 immediately before seeing Dark Fate and I'm fairly confident they were the same take. It would be strange if they used an alternate take for that.

[Geoff D]

And although I didn't want to watch either T1 or T2 beforehand I've seen T2 more times than I can count which is why it didn't sound off to me at all, aside from it being selectively edited to condense it a bit. Gave me chills.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

And I've seen T2 more times than I can count which is why it didn't sound off to me at all, aside from it being selectively edited to condense it a bit. Gave me chills.

It was a very good use of archival footage...

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Daredevil666

I don't think anyone who thrashes this film discuss the entertainement it provides.

If it was a brand new film, it would be a nice forgetable action picture with some funny ideas.

But this is a sequel to T1 & T2 written and produced by James Cameron so the bar was high, and the delivery way below.

Some self awareness at last. You're right, you/they don't want to "discuss the entertainment", you just want to nitpick it to death according to your head canon and/or the notion that it would somehow match up to Cameron's movies. I made my peace with that latter aspect a long time ago and the former I never bothered with, and despite Cameron's actual involvement with it this time there's no recapturing that lightning again - Cameron was fortunate enough to get it bottled a second time with T2. You're SO determined to hate DF that it being a very decent action flick is getting lost in all the self-serving noise.

[Jeyl]

I really enjoyed it. Yes, the series seems to have a less potential than we initially thought it did, but I'm happy with what we got here. It bums me out horribly that we're likely not going to get a follow-up to this movie because I liked what it set out to do.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Jeyl

I really enjoyed it. Yes, the series seems to have a less potential than we initially thought it did, but I'm happy with what we got here. It bums me out horribly that we're likely not going to get a follow-up to this movie because I liked what it set out to do.

Don't give up hope, something might still happen!

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Some self awareness at last. You're right, you/they don't want to "discuss the entertainment", you just want to nitpick it to death according to your head canon and/or the notion that it would somehow match up to Cameron's movies. I made my peace with that latter aspect a long time ago and the former I never bothered with, and despite Cameron's actual involvement with it this time there's no recapturing that lightning again - Cameron was fortunate enough to get it bottled a second time with T2. You're SO determined to hate DF that it being a very decent action flick is getting lost in all the self-serving noise.

How is it a decent action flick when they show constant cartoony nonesense? This is an ugly hideous CG movie.

[Matt89]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

This is such a poor argument. Entertaining and smart is what should always be expected. Some of the biggest blockbusters of all time were entertaining and didn’t result to such blatant nonsense, Jurassic Park, Titanic, Avatar, Star Wars, and the list is long. IQs have dropped sharply since the 90s.

Eh, Titanic is full of nonsense. The melodrama in the first half is rather abysmal and the writing is quite terrible. Iceberg onwards, however, it’s a pretty masterful action flick.

~Matt

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

How is it a decent action flick when they show constant cartoony nonesense? This is an ugly hideous CG movie.

Is this the Alita thread?

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Is this the Alita thread?

Ouch!!

[Matt89]

I’d say it’s a decent action flick in the sense that the production value was there, the cast was there, the effects were well-done, it was fast-paced and entertaining but IMO the story is where it fails. I actually seriously dislike a few of the major plot points and thought a lot of the writing was super lazy. But overall it’s pretty decent I’d say. It was (more or less) what I thought it was gonna be.

~Matt

[overmang5]

Originally Posted by Colson

I watched T2 immediately before seeing Dark Fate and I'm fairly confident they were the same take. It would be strange if they used an alternate take for that.

I've seen T2 20 or 30 times too. I watched the 4K blu-ray just a few days before watching Dark Fate in the theater, and it sounded off to me.

I could be totally off or it could have just been the theater audio, regular theater, rather than the Dolby Atmos specific one.

In any case, the inclusion of the scene is appreciated either way.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by jerclay

Like she didn’t have eyes or something? And she played it so cool and badass, like ok, whatever, no biggie, I’ll get another chance - is that what an experienced terminator hunter would do? Come on, I know you like it and you will defend it like a T-101, I would do too, but to me it all looked like a big illogical mess.

You're not wrong. The writing and direction were poorly conceived in many ways.

And at present Cameron seems to be distancing himself from DF now that it's considered a bonefide turkey - it's not my fault, it was someone else's doing!!

However, we have Cameron to thank for the beginning of the film and only him to blame for pawning yet another beloved franchise off on nitwits and creating a dud with Alita as a bonus because he's so obsessed with big, blue cat-smurfs from space.

[Chaotic]

Rewatched T2 saturaday night. The scene seemed in tact to me.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by overmang5

I've seen T2 20 or 30 times too. I watched the 4K blu-ray just a few days before watching Dark Fate in the theater, and it sounded off to me.

I could be totally off or it could have just been the theater audio, regular theater, rather than the Dolby Atmos specific one.

In any case, the inclusion of the scene is appreciated either way.

It's off because the opening of Dark Fate omitted Sarah saying "Silberman". That's why it's off. Everything else is the same.