The Matrix 4K UHD (1999)

[Vangeli]

Yeah I saw, that's why I went back to check.

[Geoff D]

It's definitely there alright, seems to be a grading issue rather than an outright HDR end-user mapping problemo. Phew, The Matrix's UHD isn't perfect after all, folks! Perhaps the machines realised that they lacked the programming language to convey a "perfect UHD" so they mussed it up a bit to keep us convinced that we're not in the Matrix.

I still love the way the pulse cannon and the hover pads look though, that blue charge is luscious.

[Vangeli]

What's really going to bake your noodle later on is, would most people still notice it if we hadn't said anything?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

What's really going to bake your noodle later on is, would most people still notice it if we hadn't said anything?

You win the internet for today, sir!

In my own defence it doesn't look as overtly posterised on my set as it does in the photos seen thus far. It's still odd, but given that they're on a dilapidated hovercraft from 2069 that's been jury-rigged with loads of tech it didn't stand out to me at all upon first viewing:

[jh901]

Originally Posted by gates70

Now this is how you do ATMOS ! Take note Disney you F'n morons.

It's not just the object soundtrack, but the core as well. About 15 seconds into JP1 and I was cursing Disney. I'll expect to do the same when The Matrix shows up locally.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by B-52 Bass

Oh, yeah, one more thing. While at BB I from out the worst thing ever. A worker was putting out movies and saw she was taking off "4k Slip Covers" of Wonder Woman, BP and SPR. And throwing them in the trash. I asked why she doing that cause people like those Slip Covers. She said they (Management)told her throw them out to save space. Huh, it was like 50 BP movies with slips on the rack.

WTH, just when I think that a movie didn't have a cover. They are trashing them this is stupid but I bet the studios don't know about this.

People spend a lot of money on a movie and like myself. I love slips, I don't know how many other people like slips. But I really look to have a slip with the movie. This is sad cause BB is doing this on their own I seriously doubt the studios told them it was ok to do this.

I did take one out the trash and it was in PERFECT condition. So, why, Smh….

I would call Best Buy headquarters and report that immediately. There is no way corporate could find that acceptable.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You win the internet for today, sir!

In my own defence it doesn't look as overtly posterised on my set as it does in the photos seen thus far. It's still odd, but given that they're on a dilapidated hovercraft from 2069 that's been jury-rigged with loads of tech it didn't stand out to me at all upon first viewing:

[Show spoiler]

[gates70]

Originally Posted by jh901

It's not just the object soundtrack, but the core as well. About 15 seconds into JP1 and I was cursing Disney. I'll expect to do the same when The Matrix shows up locally.

Have JP but haven't watched it yet, but Matrix is almost on par with Blade Runner 2049.

[Vilya]

And who will be the first to demand a corrected disc from Warner Brothers?

[Vangeli]

20th Anniversary trilogy pack next year, corrected disc with Atmos flagged as default. Perfection.

One can dream, anyway.

[gates70]

Originally Posted by Vangeli

20th Anniversary trilogy pack next year, corrected disc with Atmos flagged as default. Perfection.

One can dream, anyway.

Yeah, that ATMOS track is not the default and it's pretty stupid.

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Is it on the remastered BD too?

I also heard that this sequence is blown-out on the UHD:



Can anyone confirm?

[Pieter V]

Regular Blu-ray

DISC INFO:

Disc Size: 40,633,041,648 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: Yes
BDInfo: 0.5.8.7

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00822.MPLS
Length: 2:16:20.630 (h:m:s.ms)
Size: 39,531,675,648 bytes
Total Bitrate: 38.66 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 21993 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1 /
* MPEG-4 AVC Video 1921 kbps 480p / 23.976 fps / 4:3 / High Profile 3.2 /

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Dolby Atmos/TrueHD Audio English 4867 kbps 7.1-Atmos / 48 kHz / 4867 kbps / 24-bit (AC3 Core: 5.1-EX / 48 kHz / 448 kbps)
Dolby Digital Audio English 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio French 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio German 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio Italian 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio Portuguese 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio Japanese 640 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio Japanese 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps / Dolby Surround
* Dolby Digital Plus Audio undefined 192 kbps 1.0 / 192 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 22.756 kbps
Presentation Graphics French 19.489 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 23.836 kbps
Presentation Graphics Italian 22.032 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 20.268 kbps
Presentation Graphics Dutch 19.035 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 21.744 kbps
Presentation Graphics Portuguese 21.929 kbps
Presentation Graphics Japanese 35.342 kbps
Presentation Graphics Japanese 32.409 kbps
Presentation Graphics Japanese 34.107 kbps
Presentation Graphics Japanese 8.978 kbps
Presentation Graphics Japanese 17.45 kbps
Presentation Graphics Japanese 0.224 kbps

[KMFDMvsEnya]

If I am reading that right then not only does the BR have a half-assed HDR-SDR transfer the encode for the video has a low bitrate.

Definitely curious to see more comparison caps of the available transfers and see those funky colors in that one shot on the uhd when I can pick the title.

[yetanotherone]

Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

Is it on the remastered BD too?

I also heard that this sequence is blown-out on the UHD:



Can anyone confirm?

Someone please check:









on your disc.

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

Can anyone confirm?

Regular BD:

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

I also heard that this sequence is blown-out on the UHD:

[Show spoiler]

Can anyone confirm?

Yes, the white parts of the building look quite 'hot' on the UHD compared to the image you've posted, however it still retains most of the visible lines in the white panelling....unlike that joke of a new BD.

Just a photo of a screen for the UHD, had to bring the exposure right down to get the highlights SO NO IT DOESN'T LOOK THAT DARK IN REALITY.

[brainofj72]

Best Buy shipped my order! Huzzah!

[Kris Deering]

Caved and watched this one last night (wife saw it came in and pretty much insisted). I thought it looked quite good overall but I noticed a fair amount of issues when it came to overcooked whites and colors. I plan on exploring this title more this weekend to see how much of it is "baked in" and how much could be adjusted out with my tone map. I have well over 150 UHD titles and it is REALLY rare that I get titles that have issues with my tone mapping, so I have a feeling this one could just be some overzealous authoring or a byproduct of the different grade for the HDR10 base layer. Hard to say. But I did find some of the color moments looking gimmicky because of it, plus some other issues. All nitpicks that some may not see, but enough that I am going to explore further.

[LoSouL]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmNd_TGecfQ

Spare Change's review stays pretty level headed, but he's definitely feeling it.