Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[Colson]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Partly due to the director effectively disownig them. He provided them because it allowed him to do reshooots for Halloween II..

"I shot some scenes.... "Carpet material", I call it.... I "ho'd" out. I ho'd right out."

Can you speak a little more on this and/or provide a source? I'd love to read up on this. Sounds like an interesting story.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Partly due to the director effectively disownig them. He provided them because it allowed him to do reshooots for Halloween II..

"I shot some scenes.... "Carpet material", I call it.... I "ho'd" out. I ho'd right out."

I won't pretend to know the particulars but I'd have guessed that he simply doesn't want them put back into the film, yeah. It's fine as a curio on one of Anchor Bay's legendary limited edition DVDs 20 years ago, but it's not how he wants the film to be seen going forward.

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by Colson

Can you speak a little more on this and/or provide a source? I'd love to read up on this. Sounds like an interesting story.

It's in the "A Cut Above" Documentary", if you have that.

Carpenter felt Halloween II wasn't working and wanted to shoot:

[Show spoiler]the extra scene of the Shape killing a neighbourhood girl in her home, the Shape walking past revellers in the main street in Haddonfieldand which makes it clear to the audience that Myers has learned about Laurie being taken to the hospital and that he is now making his way there; the hospital guard doing an extended search of the building; and maybe even his death scene. It might have originally just had the guard disappear then show up as a corpse near the end. I can't quite remember.

He was given the money to shoot these things on the condition that he also provided extra scenes for the TV version of Halloween so that it could fill a bigger timeslot and garner more advertising revenue. They add nothing but time, a weird tan for Dr Loomis, and Michael's middle name. Oh and the word "sister" on Michael's room door at Smith's Grove.

[Geoff D]

Was it Tiberius?

[Martoto]

No. "Danger" is his middle name. Yeah, baby!

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I won't pretend to know the particulars but I'd have guessed that he simply doesn't want them put back into the film, yeah. It's fine as a curio on one of Anchor Bay's legendary limited edition DVDs 20 years ago, but it's not how he wants the film to be seen going forward.

I think Tommy Wallace was pretty unhappy about the TV version. He was particularly proud of his editing credit on the theatrical version, which he freely acknowledged "Cut together like butter" thanks to the planning and design of the movie. But the TV scenes are like TV show scenes shot in panavision. Masters and cut ins to coverage. With no design or desire to start as late and get out as early as you can get away with. As editors normally try to do with that kind of material. And now this stuff was tossed in to a movie with his name in the editing credits. Like sawdust chucked in to bulk out a perfectly good cake mix.

[bookcase]

Originally Posted by Martoto

I think Tommy Wallace was pretty unhappy about the TV version. He was particularly proud of his editing credit on the theatrical version, which he freely acknowledged "Cut together like butter" thanks to the planning and design of the movie. But the TV scenes are like TV show scenes shot in panavision. Masters and cut ins to coverage. With no design or desire to start as late and get out as early as you can get away with. As editors normally try to do with that kind of material. And now this stuff was tossed in to a movie with his name in the editing credits. Like sawdust chucked in to bulk out a perfectly good cake mix.

I watched the TV version of Halloween years ago and I hated it. It was the only time I was bored while watching this film.

[questrider]

Originally Posted by Colson

Michael peering from the cart is such an iconic moment for me; funny that someone might have missed it.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by MikeRoda

Like yourself, I'm a massive fan of the movie and watch it every year on Halloween since it first came out on DVD. I have bought every single version of it, except the35th blu. PLay the original blu disc it is a stunner, in my opinion!!

I have the original Blu-ray, Mike (the Starz!/Anchor Bay stripped down release) and never cared for it (my perspective has always been a bit skewed about this matter because I still -- and always will -- prefer the color timing of the THX DVD from 1999). However, I never saw the 35th Anniversary Blu's transfer, so I can't speak on it; this year I am going to give the original Blu a spin to refamiliarize myself with it on my new UHD TV.

[Agent Kay]

Mine showed up.
Sadly

[TheSweetieMan]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

The audio is a massive downgrade.
And watch using that word over trivial shit like movies on discs

People crying about audio on a UHD release. What else is new. Not to mention that guy’s post was within the context of PQ.

Also, I’ll use that word any time I please. Because this place can be absolute cancer at times. As evident in the last several pages of this thread.

Originally Posted by s2mikey

Perhaps it’s not a downgrade but some people feel that’s it’s NOT a worthy upgrade to the Blu-ray version that they currently own. This has happened before and will happen again with catalog titles. As we go along with his hobby the "diminishing returns" issue comes into play. There are simply going to be releases in UHD that are trivial "upgrades" over the existing Blu-ray. That’s OK. It’s to be expected. No children or small animals were injured due to some people skipping out on this title in UHD.

Cancer? Because we aren’t willing to piss away money on something we don’t find to be of value? Mmm Kay then.

Yeah I didn’t need a novel’s worth of a response for why you can’t afford something.

[Martoto]

Anyone else noticed that Nancy Loomis (Annie) stifles a laugh in reaction to the panaglide operator almost takes a tumble in front of the three girls. Just after the "speed kills" bit. It's as he's backing up just before the camera moves over and then pans round to shoot the girls from behind.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Modern A/V receivers (especially with Dolby Atmos and DTS:X compatibility) does not process mono soundtracks, like the old 2 channel receivers that were made back in the 70s-80s. Audio technology and receivers has changed drastically, and upgraded since then. Even though it was a great era, but we're not in the 70s anymore, and fans of this movie have refuse or reluctant to change with the times....To me, the audio on this 4K release is not that big of a deal and some people make a mountain out of a molehill, when in reality it's not that bad at all.

Mine is fine with mono tracks

[Colson]

Originally Posted by questrider

I'm sad that I made the typo, but it was worth it to see this amazing gif.

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Mine is fine with mono tracks

Mine too, and I can even decide whether I'd like the mono to come out of (a) just the center speaker, (b) just the front left and right speakers, or (c) all of my speakers equally, which would be an odd choice.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by Colson

I'm sad that I made the typo, but it was worth it to see this amazing gif.



Mine too, and I can even decide whether I'd like the mono to come out of (a) just the center speaker, (b) just the front left and right speakers, or (c) all of my speakers equally, which would be an odd choice.

Mono should ideally come only from the center speaker -- and it's not just for "purist" reasons, either. Running these tracks from the left/right mains or in an "all channel stereo" mode where dialogue and everything comes from all the speakers in the system -- and believe me, I have vast experience experimenting with these mixes on old DVDs -- causes very strange shifts in the soundfield...especially when running them from the left/right mains (doing so causes a noticeable "comb filtering" effect wherein the dialogue gets lost between the speakers and everything sounds really strange).

Forget about running a mono mix through all speakers of a system; it's an atrocious decision and awful way to listen to the track.

[ROSS.T.G.]

Catty thread today, looks like some have a case of the Mondays.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Colson

I'm sad that I made the typo, but it was worth it to see this amazing gif.



Mine too, and I can even decide whether I'd like the mono to come out of (a) just the center speaker, (b) just the front left and right speakers, or (c) all of my speakers equally, which would be an odd choice.

Same.

[Vorhees13]

Apologies if this has been shared, but thought this was pretty good.

▶ Comparison of Halloween 4K Dolby Vision vs Halloween Blu Ray Edition - YouTube

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Catty thread today, looks like some have a case of the Mondays.

TOTALLY remember that scene and the line from Office Space...

How did Halloween look on your OLED, Ross?

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by Vorhees13

Apologies if this has been shared, but thought this was pretty good.

▶ Comparison of Halloween 4K Dolby Vision vs Halloween Blu Ray Edition - YouTube

Thanks for that!

Very interesting comparison; seems like, at least in the outdoor sequences, the 4K transfer brightens up the image compared to the 35th Anniversary Blu, almost lifting a veil off of it...