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ldeaf2 · 10-18-2018, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

What is your tellybox? OLED by any chance?

Yessir.

RustinCohle · 10-18-2018, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ldeaf2

People who are reporting flashing on this disc, is it while watching with Dolby Vision or HDR? I’m watching this for the first time in Dolby Vision and I’m getting crazy flashing when Laurie goes into the house where all her friends are.

I just watched this last night on my OLED and didn't experience any flashing. The only 'flashing' I saw was Lynda totally flashing Michael Myers.

But for real, when Bob opens the fridge, I thought I saw a little flash. However, I think it was just the fridge light quickly reflecting off the egg carton that was sitting in the fridge door.

4kUltraBD · 10-18-2018, 09:34 PM

Alrighty, I just finished H20 and Resurrection.

I must admit here, that I was 21 when H20 came out and I remember it being a REALLY big deal at the time. JLC back in the franchise, the nods to Psycho with her real life mother Janet Leigh being in the film (named Norma even) and the beautifully restored car she (Janet) drove while playing Marion Crane in the Hitchcock classic. There were also some moments of dialogue that reference Psycho, and I enjoyed the throwbacks myself.

Like all of these, I watched this through the lens of nostalgia, and I liked it well enough. It was certainly a step up from parts 5 and 6, and was a nice boost for the series IMO. I liked it 20 years ago, and I still liked it earlier today. Refined taste be damned.

Resurrection, on the other hand, hasn't aged quite as well. I can see what they were going for here. Putting Michael Myers in the modern internet age and all, but there were so many gaps in logic that the film didn't work well overall IMO.

I thought it started out well enough, and set up an interesting film that it completely abandoned after the rooftop scene. I felt like the opening 1/4 of the movie was tacked on for a bit of fan service, then it changes gears completely and becomes something else altogether. Something that didn't seem like it was as good a movie as had been initially set up. Oh well...

Next I will be watching the two Rob Zombie Halloween films. The 10 disc set I have has the directors cut of pt 1 and the unrated cut of pt 2. I have not seen either one of these, but have seen the beginning to part one when it first came to home video.

I was really excited to see it, but I will admit, that about 15-20 mins into it, I had enough and have never finished it all these years later. I suppose now is the time. Part two of the Zombie films I have not seen at all, and really know nothing about as I have generally ignored it in the past.

I'm hoping these are at least decent, but I'm not gonna put my butcher knife down just yet.

grodd · 10-18-2018, 09:37 PM

No flashing here on a 2016 OLED. Going to try Dolby Vision for the first time on a Panny 820 I just got today.
If you are getting flashing, might want to try turning off the motion flow and see what happens.

Geoff D · 10-18-2018, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by grodd

No flashing here on a 2016 OLED. Going to try Dolby Vision for the first time on a Panny 820 I just got today.
If you are getting flashing, might want to try turning off the motion flow and see what happens.

I keep forgetting that about that. Some folks had big problems with weird flashing during certain moments in X-Men...only for the motionflow to be the culprit. Again, it's just another factor to add to all the other tweaks and adjustments and alterations that people are doing to the PQ, on top of whatever the tone mapping is doing, hence me taking my cues only from a very small sample of posters on here, never mind most "pro" reviewers.

Doctorossi · 10-18-2018, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

motionflow

Is that one of the proprietary names for display-processed frame-interpolation?*

* If so, this is a problem that comes with the easiest built-in solution imaginable

ROSS.T.G. · 10-18-2018, 10:14 PM

I saw mild flickering only at the beginning with little Myers was wearing the mask. It did not look like an issue from my panel though. Obviously it is but it was so minor it didn’t really bother me. Did not see ant flickering with X-Men.

Geoff D · 10-18-2018, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi

Is that one of the proprietary names for display-processed frame-interpolation?*

* If so, this is a problem that comes with the easiest built-in solution imaginable

Yes, yes it is. But as with stuff like zooming black bars away and other such sacrilegious acts, more people do it than you think and so they may not immediately come to the conclusion that the motionflow and/or other 'picture enhancing' modes are part of the problem, particularly with ye olde comeback of "it never did this before!!". I'm not throwing shade at anyone in here per se, just throwing in another patronizing Geoff D Opinion™.

jcs913 · 10-18-2018, 11:56 PM

I am not trying to rehash this whole mono thing, but yesterday I finally had some time and popped in the 78' classic from my Complete Collection. It was played on the OPPO 203 with a Denon 6400h. Toggled through the audio, as it defaults to the 7.1 mix and the only other option besides the 2 DD commentary tracks was a stereo track, which is what it played in when I selected it. The case says it has the mono track and you guys have been discussing that the CC is the only 78' bd disc that had the mono track. What gives???

Ruined · 10-19-2018, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs913

I am not trying to rehash this whole mono thing, but yesterday I finally had some time and popped in the 78' classic from my Complete Collection. It was played on the OPPO 203 with a Denon 6400h. Toggled through the audio, as it defaults to the 7.1 mix and the only other option besides the 2 DD commentary tracks was a stereo track, which is what it played in when I selected it. The case says it has the mono track and you guys have been discussing that the CC is the only 78' bd disc that had the mono track. What gives???

It's a mono track encoded in stereo. Put your receiver into pro logic mode and it will collapse the stereo to mono center channel only.

Geoff D · 10-19-2018, 12:26 AM

Yeah, it's not "stereo", it's a mono source encoded in two channels.

jcs913 · 10-19-2018, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yeah, it's not "stereo", it's a mono source encoded in two channels.

Interesting, so not a 'true' mono like in older films, which I think had the 1 track only. It's funny, because I always thought 78' it was a standard 2 channel stereo track for years, until I looked into it more. In some sort of theory, I guess it is. Anyways, thanks for the info.

cfitzpatrick711 · 10-19-2018, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ldeaf2

People who are reporting flashing on this disc, is it while watching with Dolby Vision or HDR? I’m watching this for the first time in Dolby Vision and I’m getting crazy flashing when Laurie goes into the house where all her friends are.

I have an OLED and am seeing the flashing as well. I’m viewing in HDR10. I cranked the brightness down one click to 50 and it was dramatically reduced.

I’ve seen it before on other titles, but they are escaping me at the moment. Always in near black scenes with lots of grain.

bradnoyes · 10-19-2018, 12:44 AM

Yeah, on my old B6 I dropped the brightness one tick to 49 and the flashing was gone. Still waiting for my E8 to emerge from the other side of whatever black hole it has fallen into and this is one of the first discs I'll be testing out.

Ruined · 10-19-2018, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs913

Interesting, so not a 'true' mono like in older films, which I think had the 1 track only. It's funny, because I always thought 78' it was a standard 2 channel stereo track for years, until I looked into it more. In some sort of theory, I guess it is. Anyways, thanks for the info.

For some reason, authoring houses these days mostly encode mono as DTS 2.0 stereo. I know back in the DVD days some receivers didn't handle 1.0 mono correctly but those days are long past, so I honestly have no idea why they don't just encode in 1.0 which can lead to less potential errors (in the past year alone there have been two BDs released with 2.0 mono soundtracks that had phase errors in the master and resulted in surround channels being activated in dpl mode as a result).

Agent Bond · 10-19-2018, 08:25 AM

There's nothing better than a live reaction from the audience!

Sky_Captain · 10-19-2018, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

I saw mild flickering only at the beginning with little Myers was wearing the mask. It did not look like an issue from my panel though. Obviously it is but it was so minor it didn’t really bother me. Did not see ant flickering with X-Men.

Flicker me timbers.

KubrickKurasawa · 10-19-2018, 10:02 AM

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Flicker me timbers.

OLED now with perfect FLICKER and BLACKS?

ROSS.T.G. · 10-19-2018, 10:14 AM

OLED’s are so perfect any minor issues stick out.

Fat Phil · 10-19-2018, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

OLED’s are so perfect any minor issues stick out.

Is that the new OLED slogan for 2019? It's catchy

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10-18-2018, 09:34 PM	#3163
4kUltraBD Expert Member Member since:Nov 2017 4K collection:353 Blu-ray collection:494 DVD collection:262 Digital collection:231 Trading Score:35	Alrighty, I just finished H20 and Resurrection. I must admit here, that I was 21 when H20 came out and I remember it being a REALLY big deal at the time. JLC back in the franchise, the nods to Psycho with her real life mother Janet Leigh being in the film (named Norma even) and the beautifully restored car she (Janet) drove while playing Marion Crane in the Hitchcock classic. There were also some moments of dialogue that reference Psycho, and I enjoyed the throwbacks myself. Like all of these, I watched this through the lens of nostalgia, and I liked it well enough. It was certainly a step up from parts 5 and 6, and was a nice boost for the series IMO. I liked it 20 years ago, and I still liked it earlier today. Refined taste be damned. Resurrection, on the other hand, hasn't aged quite as well. I can see what they were going for here. Putting Michael Myers in the modern internet age and all, but there were so many gaps in logic that the film didn't work well overall IMO. I thought it started out well enough, and set up an interesting film that it completely abandoned after the rooftop scene. I felt like the opening 1/4 of the movie was tacked on for a bit of fan service, then it changes gears completely and becomes something else altogether. Something that didn't seem like it was as good a movie as had been initially set up. Oh well... Next I will be watching the two Rob Zombie Halloween films. The 10 disc set I have has the directors cut of pt 1 and the unrated cut of pt 2. I have not seen either one of these, but have seen the beginning to part one when it first came to home video. I was really excited to see it, but I will admit, that about 15-20 mins into it, I had enough and have never finished it all these years later. I suppose now is the time. Part two of the Zombie films I have not seen at all, and really know nothing about as I have generally ignored it in the past. I'm hoping these are at least decent, but I'm not gonna put my butcher knife down just yet. Last edited by 4kUltraBD; 10-18-2018 at 10:05 PM.

10-18-2018, 09:37 PM	#3164
grodd Power Member Member since:Sep 2011 Location:Northern CA Trading Score:3	No flashing here on a 2016 OLED. Going to try Dolby Vision for the first time on a Panny 820 I just got today. If you are getting flashing, might want to try turning off the motion flow and see what happens.

10-18-2018, 10:14 PM	#3167
ROSS.T.G. Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Ontario, Canada 4K collection:393 Blu-ray collection:1549 Blu-ray reviews:16	I saw mild flickering only at the beginning with little Myers was wearing the mask. It did not look like an issue from my panel though. Obviously it is but it was so minor it didn’t really bother me. Did not see ant flickering with X-Men.

10-18-2018, 11:56 PM	#3169
jcs913 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:576	I am not trying to rehash this whole mono thing, but yesterday I finally had some time and popped in the 78' classic from my Complete Collection. It was played on the OPPO 203 with a Denon 6400h. Toggled through the audio, as it defaults to the 7.1 mix and the only other option besides the 2 DD commentary tracks was a stereo track, which is what it played in when I selected it. The case says it has the mono track and you guys have been discussing that the CC is the only 78' bd disc that had the mono track. What gives???

10-19-2018, 12:26 AM	#3171
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Yeah, it's not "stereo", it's a mono source encoded in two channels.

10-19-2018, 12:44 AM	#3174
bradnoyes Blu-ray Knight Member since:Dec 2016 4K collection:775 Blu-ray collection:816 Trading Score:255	Yeah, on my old B6 I dropped the brightness one tick to 49 and the flashing was gone. Still waiting for my E8 to emerge from the other side of whatever black hole it has fallen into and this is one of the first discs I'll be testing out.

10-19-2018, 10:14 AM	#3179
ROSS.T.G. Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Ontario, Canada 4K collection:393 Blu-ray collection:1549 Blu-ray reviews:16	OLED’s are so perfect any minor issues stick out.

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