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Old 06-28-2019, 01:18 AM   #3401
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But not sounded...
I liked the audio. A lot.
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Old 06-28-2019, 02:06 AM   #3402
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But not sounded...
Yea with that kinda grammar sure
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Old 06-28-2019, 02:48 AM   #3403
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Yea with that kinda grammar sure
A. Explain the grammatical error.

B. Why are you trolling me?

C. It's 'yeah' unless you're voting or trying to resurrect ye olde English.
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Old 06-28-2019, 02:50 AM   #3404
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I liked the audio. A lot.
And you're entitled to. But I think it's always worth pointing out to anyone who asks about a disc's quality that the original audio is missing. Original audio is always the best, even if the remix is "good".
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Old 06-28-2019, 03:03 AM   #3405
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And you're entitled to. But I think it's always worth pointing out to anyone who asks about a disc's quality that the original audio is missing. Original audio is always the best, even if the remix is "good".
I said it’s the best it’s looked. I didn’t mention audio because most people don’t care. It’s an afterthought to many. Not everyone thinks original audio is best.
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Old 06-28-2019, 03:27 AM   #3406
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A. Explain the grammatical error.

B. Why are you trolling me?

C. It's 'yeah' unless you're voting or trying to resurrect ye olde English.
Why would I troll anyone? All it said was but not sounded...so that makes no sense. Plus this movie is practically as old as I am, I don’t expect it to have perfect audio. To me picture is more important as Ross said
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Old 06-28-2019, 04:13 AM   #3407
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Why would I troll anyone? All it said was but not sounded...so that makes no sense. Plus this movie is practically as old as I am, I don’t expect it to have perfect audio. To me picture is more important as Ross said
“But not sounded...” = “But not (the best it’s) sounded...”
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“But not sounded...” = “But not (the best it’s) sounded...”
What language is this? So the sound isn’t great, so what?
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Old 06-28-2019, 07:50 AM   #3409
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I said it’s the best it’s looked. I didn’t mention audio because most people don’t care. It’s an afterthought to many. Not everyone thinks original audio is best.
You could've just left it alone, but instead you followed up your post with the silly response above. This is bluray.com where A LOT of people care about original audio. Just because you don't means nothing.

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What language is this? So the sound isn’t great, so what?
#facepalm (because I can't be arsed looking for a .gif for this comment).
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Old 06-28-2019, 11:46 AM   #3410
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You could've just left it alone, but instead you followed up your post with the silly response above. This is bluray.com where A LOT of people care about original audio. Just because you don't means nothing.



#facepalm (because I can't be arsed looking for a .gif for this comment).
Lol I could have left what alone? I was replying to your post. That’s how it works here. How was my response silly? Most people care more about PQ than audio. You’re very dramatic.
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Old 06-28-2019, 11:48 AM   #3411
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Watches the umbrella disc and was not impressed with the print damage and blown highlights. Looks like 4k will be the way to go
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Old 06-28-2019, 12:02 PM   #3412
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Original audio is always the best, even if the remix is "good".
wrong, orig audio is just how it was released
audio has moved on just like PQ

do you use headphones/tv speakers by any chance ?
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Old 06-28-2019, 01:25 PM   #3413
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wrong, orig audio is just how it was released
audio has moved on just like PQ

do you use headphones/tv speakers by any chance ?

What are you talking about? The original presentation is what it is? Do you view all films as works in progress?
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Old 06-28-2019, 03:56 PM   #3414
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What are you talking about? The original presentation is what it is? Do you view all films as works in progress?
What is ORIGINAL to YOU IS not original TO ALL.

Believe it or not!

Some people might have saw this on DVD first, or perhaps Blu-Ray Points finger at brain
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Old 06-28-2019, 04:15 PM   #3415
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What is ORIGINAL to YOU IS not original TO ALL.
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Since people are discussing the audio again... I actually did buy the Spanish BD as well some time ago by now and compared the two tracks myself.

1. Yes, there's the thunder difference which I NEVER would've noticed myself and there's the changed "sting" as well, which I also NEVER would've noticed.
2. Other than that, except for the mono being louder (which I actually don't even notice that much either when listening via my proper setup - no idea if there are some flags playing a part here), both sound basically exactly the same to me and no one would be able to tell the difference IMHO.

I actually uploaded two samples elsewhere and here are just the normalized to -3dB (nothing else!) versions of both. I won't tell you which is which, because I'm an *******, but people are free to guess.

intro music:
1. https://vocaroo.com/i/s1qmQ6KNk1cJ
2. https://vocaroo.com/i/s08TE25UTQJu

a scene that was described to me as sounding MUCH better (as in "The remix is an impudence!") on the original mono track (really no hard feelings, in case said person reads it here again):
1. https://vocaroo.com/i/s0kv47xPZOdL
2. https://vocaroo.com/i/s18HKDQblhNb


Don't get me wrong. I DO get if people want the original. My main reason for posting this, is for people who don't care about the original, are fine with the 7.1 and/but are worried if they are missing anything substantial with the "terrible" 7.1 track. Just don't - you're fine.

(If I missed sth, I do welcome according samples.)
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Old 06-28-2019, 09:53 PM   #3418
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Since people are discussing the audio again... I actually did buy the Spanish BD as well some time ago by now and compared the two tracks myself.

1. Yes, there's the thunder difference which I NEVER would've noticed myself and there's the changed "sting" as well, which I also NEVER would've noticed.
2. Other than that, except for the mono being louder (which I actually don't even notice that much either when listening via my proper setup - no idea if there are some flags playing a part here), both sound basically exactly the same to me and no one would be able to tell the difference IMHO.

I actually uploaded two samples elsewhere and here are just the normalized to -3dB (nothing else!) versions of both. I won't tell you which is which, because I'm an *******, but people are free to guess.

intro music:
1. https://vocaroo.com/i/s1qmQ6KNk1cJ
2. https://vocaroo.com/i/s08TE25UTQJu

a scene that was described to me as sounding MUCH better (as in "The remix is an impudence!") on the original mono track (really no hard feelings, in case said person reads it here again):
1. https://vocaroo.com/i/s0kv47xPZOdL
2. https://vocaroo.com/i/s18HKDQblhNb


Don't get me wrong. I DO get if people want the original. My main reason for posting this, is for people who don't care about the original, are fine with the 7.1 and/but are worried if they are missing anything substantial with the "terrible" 7.1 track. Just don't - you're fine.

(If I missed sth, I do welcome according samples.)
I’m just listening to those samples on my phone without earphones, but if I had to guess I’d say in each case the first link is the mono and the second link is the remix. I just think the mono sounds better overall. Much of the music in the remix has a tinny echoing sound to it. Although I do like the remix version of the intro music because there are some nice extra layers added in. I’m not sure if they were added in later or just didn’t come through well in the mono.
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Not listened to the samples but this remix isn't the worst such redo that's ever been perpetrated on a movie, I managed to get through the US UHD without bursting into flames and I can't be arsed going to any special measures to mux the proper OG mono with it. I've got the Spanish official bootleg BD and that'll do fine if I need to scratch that itch.
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Old 06-28-2019, 11:50 PM   #3420
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wrong, orig audio is just how it was released
audio has moved on just like PQ
Nope. The way the film sounded in the theatre is how it should sound on disc. Remixes are little more than aural colourisation.

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Yes, but even if I didn't...

There are tons of films from the last 20 years you can use to show off your multi-channel upgrades without vandalising older mono and stereo tracks.
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