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Old 07-12-2018, 12:24 AM   #361
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Could be we use different settings. In any case, there are quite a few of us with 2016 OLEDs so maybe others will report back with their findings. But it sounds like what you're describing was pretty distracting and there was nothing distracting about the image in my viewing.
Same line, but 2017.

It wasn't distracting just noticeable. Maybe I was just trying to look for it as I can be very analytical with PQ.
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Old 07-12-2018, 03:51 AM   #362
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I don't see any white specks but then I'm too busy trying to figure out why there is a nail sticking up through the step.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:13 AM   #363
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I really liked this one. I did have a few logical questions about some of the decisions the father made, but other than that it was a solid thriller. 8/10.
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Old 07-12-2018, 05:14 AM   #364
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Which of these looks more accurate in terms of color? Both were captured from the same file, which contains HDR. However, the first one was captured while the file was being output by Windows 10 in HDR, which resulted in the output being converted to SDR by the video-capture software that I used. On the other hand, the second one was captured while the file was being output in SDR, which resulted in the output being converted to SDR by Windows 10 before being delivered to the video-capture software that I used.

I think that the latter looks more accurate. The first one's colors are oversaturated and its highlights are blown out.

EDIT: Actually, in the first case, the conversion should be attributed to the playback software that I used (VLC) and not the capture software.

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Old 07-12-2018, 05:28 AM   #365
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A Quiet Place - An Ironic Gift (Captured in SDR)

Which of these looks more accurate in terms of color? Both were captured from the same file, which contains HDR. However, the first one was captured while the file was being output by Windows 10 in HDR, which resulted in the output being converted to SDR by the video-capture software that I used. On the other hand, the second one was captured while the file was being output in SDR, which resulted in the output being converted to SDR by Windows 10 before being delivered to the video-capture software that I used.

I think that the latter looks more accurate. The first one's colors are oversaturated and its highlights are blown out.
From what I remember seeing in theater, the first video seems more accurate.
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From what I remember seeing in theater, the first video seems more accurate.
The first one has oversaturated colors and blown out highlights relative to the transfer that I watched on VUDU and what I saw when sampling the disc under normal conditions (e.g. HDR output while watching it on my display in HDR mode). The second one looks correct to me.

I never saw it in theaters, but a commenter on another clip from the movie who says that he saw it in theaters expressed an opinion that indicates that he would agree with me about these two clips.
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:19 AM   #367
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The first one has oversaturated colors and blown out highlights relative to the transfer that I watched on VUDU and what I saw when sampling the disc under normal conditions (e.g. HDR output while watching it on my display in HDR mode). The second one looks correct to me.

I never saw it in theaters, but a commenter on another clip from the movie who says that he saw it in theaters expressed an opinion that indicates that he would agree with me about these two clips.
I agree that the first one is oversaturated with blown out highlights, but it was no where as close to the SDR version with it being so dim and colorless. This is coming from my personal theatrical experience, and I'm aware that the color grading will vary from theater to theater. I want to say that it was about 80% close to the first one. Perhaps others folks who've also seen this in theater can chime and share.
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:27 AM   #368
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Old 07-12-2018, 06:42 AM   #369
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which of these looks more accurate in terms of color? Both were captured from the same file, which contains hdr. However, the first one was captured while the file was being output by windows 10 in hdr, which resulted in the output being converted to sdr by the video-capture software that i used. On the other hand, the second one was captured while the file was being output in sdr, which resulted in the output being converted to sdr by windows 10 before being delivered to the video-capture software that i used.

I think that the latter looks more accurate. The first one's colors are oversaturated and its highlights are blown out.
Definitely the latter. Neither one is perfect though. The first is waaay too blown out (was the software even tone mapping at all?), and the second one looks a bit dull with perhaps a bit of black crush on shadow detail, however, the second version is still considerably more balanced, with most of the bright highlights being preserved (just look at the clouds about the halfway point) and the overall picture looking closer to what I remember seeing the time I watched it in regular projection.
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Definitely the latter. Neither one is perfect though. The first is waaay too blown out (was the software even tone mapping at all?), and the second one looks a bit dull with perhaps a bit of black crush on shadow detail, however, the second version is still considerably more balanced, with most of the bright highlights being preserved (just look at the clouds about the halfway point) and the overall picture looking closer to what I remember seeing the time I watched it in regular projection.
I need to find a way to capture footage from 4K BDs while either retaining the HDR or converting it properly. Otherwise, I guess I'll have to resort to upscaling footage from 1080p discs.

EDIT: Actually, in the first case, the conversion should be attributed to the playback software that I used (VLC) and not the capture software.

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Old 07-12-2018, 03:50 PM   #371
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I need to find a way to capture footage from 4K BDs while either retaining the HDR or converting it properly. Otherwise, I guess I'll have to resort to upscaling footage from 1080p discs.

EDIT: Actually, in the first case, the conversion should be attributed to the playback software that I used (VLC) and not the capture software.
Have you tried MadVR? Apparently it’s currently the best software for HDR to SDR mapping. Various people on AVSForums use it to play 4K/HDR sources on SDR displays and it seems it has the best tone mapping from what’s available right now in PC software. Maybe take a look into that? I don’t use it myself so I’m not sure about its limitations or whether it’d allow you to capture it but it might be worth a look.
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Old 07-12-2018, 04:38 PM   #372
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Have you tried MadVR? Apparently it’s currently the best software for HDR to SDR mapping. Various people on AVSForums use it to play 4K/HDR sources on SDR displays and it seems it has the best tone mapping from what’s available right now in PC software. Maybe take a look into that? I don’t use it myself so I’m not sure about its limitations or whether it’d allow you to capture it but it might be worth a look.
I'll definitely try it out.
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Old 07-12-2018, 07:45 PM   #373
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It does have one flaw. There are tiny white specks present throughout the image.

This is from the DV version I watched.
Are you totally sure it's only this movie and it's not a failing HDMI cable, etc.?

I say that because I once had tiny white flakes and it turned out to be a cable.
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Old 07-12-2018, 07:52 PM   #374
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Aren't white specks kinda common with these film-based transfers? People noticed them on Orient Express and I know the Gladiator BD remaster had them (dunno about the UHD).
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Old 07-12-2018, 08:02 PM   #375
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Are you totally sure it's only this movie and it's not a failing HDMI cable, etc.?

I say that because I once had tiny white flakes and it turned out to be a cable.
It definitely seems to just be this movie or maybe I have a faulty disc.

I watched 1999’s The Mummy last night and that was shot on film and did not experience any tiny white specks in the image like with this one. Also many others that are shot on film and I’ve yet to experience this issue before.
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Is anyone having playback issues? Was working fine till the 44:32 mark when it freezes and advances 12 seconds...software is up to date and wiped the back of the disc. Any help? Bad disc?
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It definitely seems to just be this movie or maybe I have a faulty disc.

I watched 1999’s The Mummy last night and that was shot on film and did not experience any tiny white specks in the image like with this one. Also many others that are shot on film and I’ve yet to experience this issue before.
You could take your disc to Best Buy and ask one of the employees to sample the disc on their best display, and see if it can duplicate the tiny white specks. If so, then a faulty disc is likely. Think you mentioned that you bought this from Target, so maybe ask Target to demo the disc and if you find that it is indeed a faulty disc, you can ask for an exchange.
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Old 07-13-2018, 12:02 PM   #378
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My copy finally arrived yesterday and I'll be watching it tonight!!
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You could take your disc to Best Buy and ask one of the employees to sample the disc on their best display, and see if it can duplicate the tiny white specks. If so, then a faulty disc is likely. Think you mentioned that you bought this from Target, so maybe ask Target to demo the disc and if you find that it is indeed a faulty disc, you can ask for an exchange.
Lol nah.
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Old 07-13-2018, 01:59 PM   #380
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