Superman: The Movie 4K UHD (1978)

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by NYorker

Superman IV is bad....what else is there to say? Christopher Reeve was burned enough from the experience making it that he nixed a possible Superman V because of it.

Well, they destroyed Cannon Films doing it so a Superman V was out of the question anyway. At least at the time.

I dragged my friends to see it and they were wary about seeing stuff with me afterwards for a while. Earlier in the year I also had insisted on seeing Raising Arizona and a lot of them didn't "get" the movie. I could understand that. The we all saw Predator and had a great time. But there really wasn't any excuses I could make for Superman IV.

[Verisimilitude1984]

Originally Posted by starmike

I walked out of IV.

Curious if you don’t mind me asking, how old were you when you watched it?

For me, there’s nostalgia with it and discovering it was shot in England too.

[starmike]

Originally Posted by Verisimilitude1984

Curious if you don’t mind me asking, how old were you when you watched it?

For me, there’s nostalgia with it and discovering it was shot in England too.

Old enough to drive myself to the theater and gauge if I wanted to eat the cost of a ticket

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by Verisimilitude1984

Curious if you don’t mind me asking, how old were you when you watched it?

For me, there’s nostalgia with it and discovering it was shot in England too.

I was 10 and I still hated it.

[BluBonnet]

The great thing about Sup IV is that it makes Supergirl look good by comparison.

[IguanaSlip]

Originally Posted by Bolty

Did they realize how awful it was when they were filming it or only when they saw the FX?

No one who was working on Superman IV considered it "awful", Christopher Reeve in December 1986 said that he thinks they are close to making the best Superman movie.
It was during the editing process where some lost confidence. Christopher Reeve said to Jon Cryer sometime in 1987 that the final product was going to be bad because he saw Cannon make an edit that "makes no sense".
Also, something crazy is that the scenes with Nuclear Man 1 got removed 2 weeks before the the movie's premiere. Nuke 1's actor Clive Mantle confirmed this, which may explain why the movie got delayed from July 17th to the 24th.

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

Had to have known before. They had Mariel Hemingway breathing in space with know spacesuit lol

Lacy was not meant to be in space. If you check Superman IV's script or the movie's comic book adaptation you will see that those parts where she is rescued from Nuclear Man 2 actually happen on Earth.
No idea why during the editing process they put space as the background in those blue screen shots with Lacy, maybe the editing was rushed (which could explain why Nuclear Man 1's scenes got removed 2 weeks before the movie released).

[RalphoR]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

Had to have known before. They had Mariel Hemingway breathing in space with know spacesuit lol

She gave her personal best

[dallywhitty]

I like both Supergirl and Superman IV.

[DMRI2006]

Originally Posted by IguanaSlip

No one who was working on Superman IV considered it "awful", Christopher Reeve in December 1986 said that he thinks they are close to making the best Superman movie.

It was during the editing process where some lost confidence. Christopher Reeve said to Jon Cryer sometime in 1987 that the final product was going to be bad because he saw Cannon make an edit that "makes no sense".

That's the complete opposite of what's reported in Jake Rossen's (highly recommended) SUPERMAN VS. HOLLYWOOD book, where he specifically mentions the movie was "crippled from the outset." He wrote that Reeve tried hard in his performance and his 2nd unit directing, but said the writing was on the wall that it was going to be lousy and it was evident from the start. Reeve took Cryer aside and told him "this movie is going to be terrible" during filming when they were together, not later on during post-production as you write.

As far as what Reeve said in 1986, every star does that to sell their new movie. Reeve said whatever he needed to in pre-release publicity to generate hype, but that's no indication that they all didn't know they were on a cinematic titanic of sorts. I mean, what's he going to say, "I can't wait for people to see how terrible this is?"

They all knew it was going to be bad. I mean, come on, how could they not. The 1st Nuclear Man subplot was wretched, they could see from the dialies how poorly this whole thing played.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

I like both Supergirl and Superman IV.

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Ditto.

[BluBonnet]

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

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???

[BluBonnet]

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

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Pillow fight.

[Verisimilitude1984]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

Stop taking selfies

[PinkyCarruthers]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

I was 10 and I still hated it.

Yup, I was 12 and it's a measure of how excruciatingly rotten every frame of this abomination is that I feel not a single pang of nostalgia. Seeing this movie was akin to attending a funeral.

It's the only movie in my collection I've resolved never to watch again, and I say this as someone who also owns Red Sonja. I can't even watch it for the commentary anymore.

Superman IV deserves to be burned and never spoken of again.

But then I say this as a staunch defender of Superman III, so clearly I have no moral or intellectual high ground to stand on.

[dubhousing]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

The great thing about Sup IV is that it makes Supergirl look good by comparison.

I'll defend Supergirl as a flawed but interesting movie, with a great lead in Helen Slater. It's a lot of fun. Great score, too.

It goes without saying that the recent Supergirl television series with Melissa Benoist is much better, though (Slater had a role on that show).

[PinkyCarruthers]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

The great thing about Sup IV is that it makes Supergirl look good by comparison.

It makes my cat's litterbox look good by comparison.

[Jay Mammoth]

Originally Posted by PinkyCarruthers

Yup, I was 12 and it's a measure of how excruciatingly rotten every frame of this abomination is that I feel not a single pang of nostalgia. Seeing this movie was akin to attending a funeral.

It's the only movie in my collection I've resolved never to watch again, and I say this as someone who also owns Red Sonja. I can't even watch it for the commentary anymore.

Superman IV deserves to be burned and never spoken of again.

But then I say this as a staunch defender of Superman III, so clearly I have no moral or intellectual high ground to stand on.

Same, but 3 at least had the awesome Smallville scenes and Evil Superman. Those 2 aspects save part III.

[jordanjabroni]

Originally Posted by PinkyCarruthers

Yup, I was 12 and it's a measure of how excruciatingly rotten every frame of this abomination is that I feel not a single pang of nostalgia. Seeing this movie was akin to attending a funeral.

It's the only movie in my collection I've resolved never to watch again, and I say this as someone who also owns Red Sonja. I can't even watch it for the commentary anymore.

Superman IV deserves to be burned and never spoken of again.

But then I say this as a staunch defender of Superman III, so clearly I have no moral or intellectual high ground to stand on.

...what's wrong with Red Sonja?

I'd recommend checking out this fanedit - Conan & Red Sonja.