Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[BluRay1977]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

I definitely think CD's reputation was hurt by the loudness war, which started in the '90s and has lasted ever since (though thankfully it's been moving in the right direction after peaking in the mid-'00s). And something I see fairly often is that they'll go out of their way to make the vinyl edition sound better than the CD edition of the same album. Much more dynamic and less compressed.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the capabilities of the formats themselves, though, as you point out. CD can shine and surpass vinyl when it's allowed to, and not handicapped by poorly mastered music.

The early 2000s is when the loudness wars really started and while the horrific loudness tendencies have been really dying off ever since, there is still a few albums being rereleased today where they have noise reduced issues that ruin the dynamics. It's not exactly the same thing as loudness which is arguably worse, but it does have a impact on the sound quality overall. The 90s had loads of really great releases of albums that came out before the 90s. If there was any time that you could point to the loudness issues starting in the 90s, i am guessing it would have to be either 98 or 99.

[Nosferatu31]

Originally Posted by GeoffOliver

I wonder what kind of cover art this release will have. I really hope it's the original poster. Yeah, Lionsgate's UHD uses it, but it's an iconic poster and the film doesn't need anything else.

Original artwork and no reverse artwork would be my guess, just like the UHD's of They Live and Prince of Darkness.

[BluRay1977]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

I’m not talking about mastering (a bad master is a bad master, regardless of the end user format), but in terms of format capability and fidelity, vinyl ain’t got nuthin’ on CD. Don’t take my word for it—the internet has abundant research at hand about the two formats and the only ‘advantages’ vinyl offers are grossly subjective ones.

You know, for all this conversation about how CD is meant to be so much better, its pretty astonishing how that supposed potential is never utilized.

[GeoffOliver]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu31

Original artwork and no reverse artwork would be my guess, just like the UHD's of They Live and Prince of Darkness.

Hopefully they do the same with H2 and H3, which also have nice posters. H4 has a very lazy poster, so I don't care if that's not used.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu31

Original artwork and no reverse artwork would be my guess, just like the UHD's of They Live and Prince of Darkness.

I'd be fine with that.

[Nick Michalak]

Originally Posted by BluRay1977

The early 2000s is when the loudness wars really started and while the horrific loudness tendencies have been really dying off ever since, there is still a few albums being rereleased today where they have noise reduced issues that ruin the dynamics. It's not exactly the same thing as loudness which is arguably worse, but it does have a impact on the sound quality overall. The 90s had loads of really great releases of albums that came out before the 90s. If there was any time that you could point to the loudness issues starting in the 90s, i am guessing it would have to be either 98 or 99.

I heard that Billy Idol's last few albums are just compressed to hell, which is what the loud war did to the mastering. You kill the dynamic range and just push everything into a narrow decibel range. I have one of Idol's singles from the 2000s, and it's just impossible to listen to because it's just all maxed out and compressed to hell. I can point to a couple of hard rock or metal albums that just ruined themselves with this mastering mentality.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

Just set the clock back 30 years and change the word “physical” to “vinyl” and I’ll drop my mic. Those who don’t learn from history gonna be shocked a second time when it’s repeated.

But it’s not like we’ve had 8K vinyl though, you know? (Geoffy also drops mic, then picks it up again to talk some more bollox)

It’s literally manufactured in the exact same way as decades ago which has helped contribute to its underground resurgence and ‘revival’ as mom and pop outfits salvaged the pressing equipment, but disc is more complicated and as volumes continue to drop then replicators are finding it harder to break even, never mind make a profit. Will that tech end up broken up and sold to some budding entrepreneur? Sure I guess, but it’ll be great just to keep Blu and UHD going, to say nothing of them creating yet another format extension which will need millions spent on tech development (codecs etc) & ratification by the 20-odd BDA members, some of whom may not give a shit about disc in 5-10 years.

So I’m not saying that disc won’t still be around for a good while yet. It’s there being yet another format that I just don’t think is possible.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu31

Original artwork and no reverse artwork would be my guess, just like the UHD's of They Live and Prince of Darkness.

Deer hunter wasn't

[MTRodaba2468]

Originally Posted by GeoffOliver

I wonder what kind of cover art this release will have. I really hope it's the original poster. Yeah, Lionsgate's UHD uses it, but it's an iconic poster and the film doesn't need anything else.

As Nosferatu31 said, I'd expect it to have both a slipcover and cover art of the original poster, with no commissioned art, just like the UHDs of They Live and Prince of Darkness.

Originally Posted by BobSimms

Yeah, if it’s anything other than the unfettered original poster art, I’ll just move my copy of the 2014 box set Halloween (1978) discs to a 3-disc and put this new UHD in with it. Or print out a custom cover. Although maybe if they do end up using some horrid new artwork, they’ll include the original on the reverse?

I already added the Lionsgate UHD to my box set using a 3-disc case, so I'm expecting to just switch it out with the new UHD.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468

As Nosferatu31 said, I'd expect it to have both a slipcover and cover art of the original poster, with no commissioned art, just like the UHDs of They Live and Prince of Darkness.



I already added the Lionsgate UHD to my box set using a 3-disc case, so I'm expecting to just switch it out with the new UHD.

Original US poster you mean?

[Xephix]

Originally Posted by MTRodaba2468

As Nosferatu31 said, I'd expect it to have both a slipcover and cover art of the original poster, with no commissioned art, just like the UHDs of They Live and Prince of Darkness.

The only problem is that the Lionsgate release already uses the original poster. So Scream might want to use new artwork to prevent confusion on the shelves.

[Nori]

Originally Posted by Nosferatu31

Original artwork and no reverse artwork would be my guess, just like the UHD's of They Live and Prince of Darkness.

I hope they do that too. I prefer original artwork.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by Christian Muth

We've been told that physical media is "dying" or is even already "dead" for years, and yet we keep getting more and more obscure and niche titles being release on the most expensive format, UHD. I don't think people wanting to own actual physical things- even movies- will ever completely go away.

Chris

And yet there's constant replication backups and manufacturing issues because most of the plants have shut down. It won't completely go away—yet—until the next generation who use Spotify and Apple Music and own zero CDs or MP3s take over. And the fact that name-brand companies like Samsung and Oppo stopped even manufacturing the PLAYERS to play the media.

But the writing is on the wall more than ever.

A service like Kaleidescape already easily trumps any blu-ray or UHD by offering uncompressed DCPs of films, so that's more the future than a breakable, compressed disc.

[KubrickKurasawa]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

And yet there's constant replication backups and manufacturing issues because most of the plants have shut down. It won't completely go away—yet—until the next generation who use Spotify and Apple Music and own zero CDs or MP3s take over. And the fact that name-brand companies like Samsung and Oppo stopped even manufacturing the PLAYERS to play the media.

But the writing is on the wall more than ever.

A service like Kaleidescape already easily trumps any blu-ray or UHD by offering uncompressed DCPs of films, so that's more the future than a breakable, compressed disc.

Hmm CD's and Vinyl. The First thing that comes to my mind for Vinyl is FAR better packaging and CD better sound quality. Same goes for disc based movies. If they include better audio track selection Original plus surround and better packaging it ain't never going away. Facts.

[TenYearLurker]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Original US poster you mean?

I know you love to pick nits, but the film was made in the US, and the first poster made for it was made in the US--making that the original poster, period. They didn't need to specify US; the film wasn't even released in any other countries until 1979.

You're being pedantic.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by TenYearLurker

I know you love to pick nits, but the film was made in the US, and the first poster made for it was made in the US--making that the original poster, period. They didn't need to specify US; the film wasn't even released in any other countries until 1979.

You're being pedantic.

Who was talking to you?

Wasn't the first poster I saw I was asking a genuine question, and nobody was asking you obviously.
I was interested on what the poster was referring to.
But you do you whoever you think you are #sock

[KubrickKurasawa]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Who was talking to you?

Wasn't the first poster I saw I was asking a genuine question, and nobody was asking you obviously.
I was interested on what the poster was referring to.
But you do you whoever you think you are #sock

LOL you didn't know Halloween was released in the USA first?

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by Martoto

I've seen Halloween on 35mm a couple of times and it didn't look the same each time.

You guys are trying to compare other home video editions of Halloween that were released years ago to a new 4K UHD version. Of coarse it's not going to look like the previous video releases (which is to be expected) because it's 4K UHD with HDR and Dolby Vision. Beside the 4K UHD is the best.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

Hmm CD's and Vinyl. The First thing that comes to my mind for Vinyl is FAR better packaging and CD better sound quality. Same goes for disc based movies. If they include better audio track selection Original plus surround and better packaging it ain't never going away. Facts.

Facts are there are ALREADY better ways to watch movies. I just told you one. Kaleidascape has better PQ and AQ than any disc because it's uncompressed. So thinking a compressed, outdated disc will "NEVER" go away when better technology comes out is absurd and quite laughable.

Remember when CRT TV's were the "best" you could get, and those still went away to new technology? Gosh, its crazy to think about.

[BobSimms]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Who was talking to you?

Wasn't the first poster I saw I was asking a genuine question, and nobody was asking you obviously.
I was interested on what the poster was referring to.
But you do you whoever you think you are #sock

Yes I assumed—as I’m sure most people here did—that by “original poster” he was referring to the U.K. poster, as that is the one most people think of when they think of Halloween’s original poster and key art.