The Matrix 4K UHD (1999)

[Warm Gun]

Speaking of special features, I noticed some time ago that the movie The Matrix Revisited is in the wrong aspect ratio. I remuxed it in 4:3.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

Speaking of special features, I noticed some time ago that the movie The Matrix Revisited is in the wrong aspect ratio. I remuxed it in 4:3.

What, on the newly encoded special features disc that comes with the 4K? It plays in 4:3 on my setup, perhaps you should check the settings on your player as some will stretch 4:3 to fill a 16:9 frame.

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

What, on the newly encoded special features disc that comes with the 4K? It plays in 4:3 on my setup, perhaps you should check the settings on your player as some will stretch 4:3 to fill a 16:9 frame.

Okay, yeah, it plays on 4:3 on my 4K player. Then there's some kind of error with the encode, because it rips in 3:2, which I've never seen a rip do. Look at the line that says "Display aspect ratio." On my remux, it says 4:3, but in the raw rip it says 3:2.

[Geoff D]

Looks like they flagged it incorrectly, albeit with a flag that standalone players ignore completely because they don’t have 3:2 aspect ratio. Genuine mistake but who’d notice unless they were playing everything thru a computah? What? Oh.

Love it that you picked Larry to show off the distorted ratio, it’s like a before and after as he looks more like the one on the left these days

[Pagey123]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

Okay, yeah, it plays on 4:3 on my 4K player. Then there's some kind of error with the encode, because it rips in 3:2, which I've never seen a rip do. Look at the line that says "Display aspect ratio." On my remux, it says 4:3, but in the raw rip it says 3:2.

Somebody PLEASE...get this man a correct aspect ratio!

[KubrickKurasawa]

Wow TF.

[Kylo_Ren]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

Wow TF.

[Show spoiler]

[CreasyBear]

The SACD 5.1 is ****ing outstanding!

[TheBondFan]

I loved this excellent transfer. Really good movie too.

[Uptight]

Ripping the extra features in 3:2 is a bug that has never been fixed by the software that converts everything to MKV (and oddly only affects SD stuff from certain discs). You can correct this by using MKVTOOLNIX, which will only change the file's details (AR included - in this case inform the correct one in the VIDEO PROPERTIES field), while it remains lossless.

Anyway, I miss when the original movie looked like this (never mind about the open matte):

The Matrix (1999) Trailer #1 [35mm] (Open Matte) - YouTube

Without the awful, overbearing green tint...

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by Uptight

Ripping the extra features in 3:2 is a bug that has never been fixed by the software that converts everything to MKV (and oddly only affects SD stuff from certain discs). You can correct this by using MKVTOOLNIX, which will only change the file's details (AR included - in this case inform the correct one in the VIDEO PROPERTIES field), while it remains lossless.

It's not really odd, though. I mean, no HD video on a disc will ever be in anything but 16:9. The person encoding will never have to put in a custom ratio to stretch to.

[VonMagnum]

Originally Posted by Uptight

Anyway, I miss when the original movie looked like this (never mind about the open matte):

The Matrix (1999) Trailer #1 [35mm] (Open Matte) - YouTube

Without the awful, overbearing green tint...

I love the Enigma music used in the trailer. Too bad it wasn't in the actual movie somewhere. A shortened version of that trailer is what lead me to go see it in the first place.

I ended up watching it a whopping 17 times at the theater (15 times in DTS). That's about 3x more than any other movie I've ever gone to the theater to see (the only other that was close was Back To The Future II (6 times) and BTTF III (4 times).

I think TRON (original) and The Matrix are my two favorite movies of all time (although I do love the Harry Potter series as a whole quite a bit with excellent DTS:X sound now). I'd love to see a proper 4K version of TRON (taken from 70mm masters, they should be able to do a proper 8K version for that matter!). I don't trust Disney to not screw up the soundtrack, though give their poor record the past 6 years or so (I could always copy the existing one over, though, which isn't bad, but could be improved with Atmos for some overhead things on-screen like the Recognizer coming down on top of CLU).

As for the color, I don't mind "some" green tint (I don't think they had any in the trailer; there was some in the movie as reviews of the time noted) to give the impression something is wrong, but the newer 4K UHD "cyan push" is more annoying to my eyes than the green. The 2K remastered disc is far worse for cyan push than the 4K UHD, though, but it's just uneven like teams of people were doing the 4K HDR job and didn't talk to each other and ended up with different color timing in different scenes (even different camera angles at times). But there's nothing that can be done other than hoping the next release evens it out again. With The Matrix 4 coming out later this year (unless they push it back again), there might be a new set at some point.

[rainbowbattlekid]

So, I have the steelbook of the first movie from a few years ago. It's been a while since I've rewatched it, but would that have the green tint? I've gotten the impression that the 4K doesn't, but reading some of the comments here it seems like it might still not be accurate? If it is, does the blu-ray that comes with it have the same transfer/color timing, or is it just a repackaging of the old disc?

[Pagey123]

Originally Posted by rainbowbattlekid

So, I have the steelbook of the first movie from a few years ago. It's been a while since I've rewatched it, but would that have the green tint? I've gotten the impression that the 4K doesn't, but reading some of the comments here it seems like it might still not be accurate? If it is, does the blu-ray that comes with it have the same transfer/color timing, or is it just a repackaging of the old disc?

The Blu-ray packaged with the 4K is remastered. I haven't directly compared it with the OG Blu-ray though.

Caps A Holic to the rescue: https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11...0&a=1&go=0&l=1

[rainbowbattlekid]

Originally Posted by Pagey123

The Blu-ray packaged with the 4K is remastered. I haven't directly compared it with the OG Blu-ray though.

Caps A Holic to the rescue: https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?d1=11...0&a=1&go=0&l=1

Ah thanks. Hard to tell cause the caps a holic has the UK versions but if i have this:



then this should be an upgrade to the less-green tint, even on the blu ray disc:



i think?

[Pagey123]

Correct. The standard Blu-ray packaged with the 4K UHD is a remastered Blu-ray, sourced from the same master used for the 4K UHD disc. Looking at the screen caps, there are some I prefer on the new Blu-ray, but there are some I actually prefer on the old/original. I kept both in my collection, but I tend to hoard LOL.

[Scarriere]

I saw the trailer for the new Matrix movie today and it looks wicked!
Can't wait!

[rainbowbattlekid]

Originally Posted by Pagey123

Correct. The standard Blu-ray packaged with the 4K UHD is a remastered Blu-ray, sourced from the same master used for the 4K UHD disc. Looking at the screen caps, there are some I prefer on the new Blu-ray, but there are some I actually prefer on the old/original. I kept both in my collection, but I tend to hoard LOL.

Yeah, I prefer the warmer color timing, but the brights seem a little blown out in some spots!

[Pagey123]

Originally Posted by rainbowbattlekid

Yeah, I prefer the warmer color timing, but the brights seem a little blown out in some spots!

Agreed. I'm assuming that's some function of HDR down converting to SDR poorly or incorrectly. But someone with far more knowledge than me will have to weigh in on that.

[MuffinMcFluffin]

Originally Posted by Scarriere

I saw the trailer for the new Matrix movie today and it looks wicked!
Can't wait!

I see what you did there.