Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[JPLeon]

Originally Posted by okko

I didn't realize how important the mask and actors who play the Shape were until the sequels came along.

When Halloween IV was announced, I was ecstatic and when I went to the theatre to watch it, I definitely had lift off. Then the second that Michael first appeared on screen I lost my boner.

They never could get the mask to look right (lawsuits and such I know), and with all due respect to the people who played the Shape in the 4-8 sequels, they couldn't hold a candle to Castle and Warlock.


Kev

Warlock in my opinion is way too slow as Michael, he nails some his mannerisms such as the head tilt, looking stiff as a rock, and the mask is on point as it still looks creepy despite the weathering. But he is way slower compared to Michael of the first movie. A. Michael Lerner who played Michael in the reshoots of Halloween 6 is very intimidating with that walk of his and he is slender just like Nick Castle, too bad he wasn't in another Halloween movie.

[Jay H.]

Originally Posted by JPLeon

Warlock in my opinion is way too slow as Michael, he nails some his mannerisms such as the head tilt, looking stiff as a rock, and the mask is on point as it still looks creepy despite the weathering. But he is way slower compared to Michael of the first movie. Michael Lerner who played Michael in the reshoots of Halloween 6 is very intimidating with that walk of his and he is slender just like Nick Castle, too bad he wasn't in another Halloween movie.

In all fairness, Michael

[Show spoiler]had been shot 6 (7?) times and fell from a second-story window.

That would make anybody move slow.

Nobody has captured Michael like Nick Castle did, and Dick Warlock is not even close to having the same build as Castle. It also bugs me that the hair on Michael's mask was slicked back in part 2. Why?

[JPLeon]

Originally Posted by Jay H.

In all fairness, Michael

[Show spoiler]had been shot 6 (7?) times and fell from a second-story window.

That would make anybody move slow.

Nobody has captured Michael like Nick Castle did, and Dick Warlock is not even close to having the same build as Castle. It also bugs me that the hair on Michael's mask was slicked back in part 2. Why?

The mask was not in good condition since Debra Hill (the producer of Halloween 1- III) didn't really took care of it since filming ended of Halloween 1978. Well actually throughout the filming of the first movie. There's a photo of a party after shooting ended and they have all three masks (two stunt masks and the hero mask) on the floor .


Oh and here's one pic of Jamie Lee Curtis with Nick Castle and another with Dick Warlock. You can see the weathering on the mask's hair. BTW, damn Laurie!

[flash.over]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Halloween III also has one of Carpenter’s best scores. “Chariots of Pumpkins” and “Drive to Santa Mira” are my favorite tracks but the entire score is magnificent.

H3 and Christine are my favorite Carpenter scores by far. I can’t choose between them because they both sound like they belong to the same movie haha

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by Brian81

That's what I say to people about Halloween III. It just has that feel of Carpenter films of the period. The overall feel of the film fits more with something like The Fog.

^ This

[The80s]

Originally Posted by JPLeon

Warlock in my opinion is way too slow as Michael, he nails some his mannerisms such as the head tilt, looking stiff as a rock, and the mask is on point as it still looks creepy despite the weathering. But he is way slower compared to Michael of the first movie. A. Michael Lerner who played Michael in the reshoots of Halloween 6 is very intimidating with that walk of his and he is slender just like Nick Castle, too bad he wasn't in another Halloween movie.

A. Michael Lerner is one of my favorites. He was just ferocious and ultra badass.

[cuzzin]

Originally Posted by JPLeon

Oh and here's one pic of Jamie Lee Curtis with Nick Castle and another with Dick Warlock. You can see the weathering on the mask's hair. BTW, damn Laurie!

[Show spoiler]

Nice, I've actually never seen that second pic. Love the expression on DP's face.

[bobbyh64]

The H6 mask looks better in the reshoots for the T-Cut. I remember hearing a disgruntled crew member messed with the mask (forget what he did exactly), but it actually improved it.

[The80s]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

The H6 mask looks better in the reshoots for the T-Cut. I remember hearing a disgruntled crew member messed with the mask (forget what he did exactly), but it actually improved it.

I agree completely. With the exception of a couple of shots, the T-Cut mask is overall way better and way more intense than the P-Cut mask. I love it. It's my #1 favorite mask of them all.

[The80s]

This is a shot of the mask from the P-Cut where it looks PHENOMENAL! I love the way they made the hair look in a lot of shots, including this one. It's super badass.

[JPLeon]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

The H6 mask looks better in the reshoots for the T-Cut. I remember hearing a disgruntled crew member messed with the mask (forget what he did exactly), but it actually improved it.

The crew member allegedly rubbed chemicals inside and outside the mask. This destroyed most masks which is why a screen used mask is hard to be found today. You can see the deterioration in the closeups during the ending but it still looks creepy asf.

[cuzzin]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

The H6 mask looks better in the reshoots for the T-Cut. I remember hearing a disgruntled crew member messed with the mask (forget what he did exactly), but it actually improved it.

It was probably Moe Syzslak.

[Jay H.]

Originally Posted by The80s

This is a shot of the mask from the P-Cut where it looks PHENOMENAL! I love the way they made the hair look in a lot of shots, including this one. It's super badass.

The hair makes Michael Myers look like Sean Clark.

[bobbyh64]

I love the look of Myers in H6. The mask, the brutality, the relentlessness. Love the cinematography and the fall time look and Halloween vibes. I’m just not a fan of the story of a cult creating and controlling Myers (it’s more ambiguous in the T-Cut, which is one reason I prefer that version).

“I spent eight years trying to reach him and then another seven trying to keep him locked up because I realized that what was living behind that boy’s eyes was purely and simply… the Curse of Thorn.” Doesn’t have the same effect as the original line. I still love watching the movie though.

[dml1988]

Originally Posted by okko

I didn't realize how important the mask and actors who play the Shape were until the sequels came along.

When Halloween IV was announced, I was ecstatic and when I went to the theatre to watch it, I definitely had lift off. Then the second that Michael first appeared on screen I lost my boner.

They never could get the mask to look right (lawsuits and such I know), and with all due respect to the people who played the Shape in the 4-8 sequels, they couldn't hold a candle to Castle and Warlock.


Kev

There is one scene in Halloween 4 where I think the mask looks pretty good, and that is when Kathleen Kinmont brings the coffee to who she thinks is the police officer, but instead it's Michael. The shot where he impales her with the shotgun, which if I am not mistaken is not George Wilbur but Tom Morga. It has to be because the mask is shaped differently and Michaels body frame is more slender, which looks a lot better. Michael was never supposed to be built like a line backer

Edit: This one right here

[Covcraig]

Originally Posted by dml1988

There is one scene in Halloween 4 where I think the mask looks pretty good, and that is when Kathleen Kinmont brings the coffee to who she thinks is the police officer, but instead it's Michael. The shot where he impales her with the shotgun, which if I am not mistaken is not George Wilbur but Tom Morga. It has to be because the mask is shaped differently and Michaels body frame is more slender, which looks a lot better. Michael was never supposed to be built like a line backer

Edit: This one right here

.. Has nothing to do with the fact you can only see like 15% of the mask lol

[malicedoom]

Come on... we all know the mask from Halloween 5 was the BEST!







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[dallywhitty]

Assault on Precinct 13 is probably my favourite of Carpenter's scores (hell, it's my favourite of his films). That main theme does things to my nether region.

[JackForrester]

Originally Posted by dallywhitty

Assault on Precinct 13 is probably my favourite of Carpenter's scores (hell, it's my favourite of his films). That main theme does things to my nether region.

Completely OOT, but very much related to your post. Have you seen Gaspar Noe's Love?

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by JackForrester

Completely OOT, but very much related to your post. Have you seen Gaspar Noe's Love?

I haven't, no! I know of it, but the only Noe film I've seen is Irreversible.