The Matrix 4K UHD (1999)

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

TBH I'm very glad that they're even mentioning this sort of thing though, for if there's one thing that the indies have done for us it's really highlighting that kind of "new transfer supervised by x" aspect of these releases. People are actually looking out for that shit now.

Did any other WB press-releases for catalog UHDs have this stuff? I usually don't read them, only for films I'm terribly interested in. Nolan collection had only the director's quote, if I recall correctly.

I get that you're very trepidatious after dem Nolans and I still think that Warners will do their usual bit of filtering to it, but coming off the neg should help to alleviate that and, if anything, I'm just glad that we're getting ANOTHER shot at having this movie done justice on home video. If they balls it up then they balls it up, I'll be gutted but hey, that's life.

Nolans were heavily filtered, and in case of Begins outright ****ed. Potters 1-2 were filtered for sure, sadly, but they didn't go overboard with it, so it looked quite pleasing overall. Similar to Unforgiven. Blade Runner was filtered in a rather opposite way. Outside a few scrubbed moments (for digital editing, I believe), some instances had too much sharpening. Man... Anything can happen with this release. What separates this release from the rest - it's a rather special film for me.

But just having another opportunity thanks to this UHD format is why I continue to be so excited about where UHD can take us, all those 2K upscales sold mean that stuff like this - going back to the neg for a 4K workup - on films that truly matter is made that much more viable for the studios.

Yeah, I'd say, Dolby Vision also inspires confidence. Maybe I'm wrong since I didn't see all Dolby releases, but those I saw had exceptional video quality.

[Geoff D]

UHD is like a box of chocolates: you never know what you gonna get!

We've rarely been given this sort of transparency as to the provenance of the 4K transfer & UHD grading by any studio, most of the time such info has been gleaned from social media posts and/or external interviews with the post-production talent on the usual clutch of post-prod websites.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

I hope Bill Pope isn't just a marketing ploy and he was involved in meaningful amount.

I'm sure someone on here will email or tweet him.

[ROSS.T.G.]

Yeah I dig the cover. How many people will complain about the green...

[OutOfBoose]

I think the cover is rather lazy, but it's OK. I'm incomparably more interested in what's inside, given what they've announced.

Originally Posted by flyry

I'm sure someone on here will email or tweet him.

Maybe there will be some interview where he will detail what they did with the new transfer. That would be nice.

[s_har]

Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Yeah I dig the cover. How many people will complain about the green...

I don't like the cover. Someone's bound to complain about it so it might as well be me.

[Pyoko]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The HDR10+ version is in there...but you have to be The One to see it.

Unfortunately no one can be told what HDR looks like... you have to see it for yourself.

I think the Nolan collection was a one-off in terms of the grain, and I've been wondering if it wasn't perhaps a Fotokem deal and not Warner proper. That kind of temporal and very noticeably smeary noise reduction is not something I typically associate with WB, they've usually gone more for spatial softening and letting the compression do the work. Goodfellas looks excellent, and Unforgiven, though light on grain, always shows it at full speed so it never really looks unnatural.

[OutOfBoose]

Opening post needs an update.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Dirk504

Will the new Blu Ray have Atmos as well?

Press release says it will.

Also, the 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray and Blu-ray discs of The Matrix will feature a Dolby Atmos® soundtrack remixed specifically for the home theater environment to place and move audio anywhere in the room, including overhead. To experience Dolby Atmos at home, a Dolby Atmos enabled AV receiver and additional speakers are required, or a Dolby Atmos enabled sound bar. Dolby Atmos soundtracks are also fully backward compatible with traditional audio configurations and legacy home entertainment equipment.

The Matrix will be available on Ultra HD Blu-ray Combo Pack for $41.99 SRP and features an Ultra HD Blu-ray disc with the feature film in 4K with HDR and digitally remastered Blu-ray disc of the The Matrix. Fans can also own The Matrix in 4K Ultra HD via purchase from select digital retailers beginning on May 22, 2018. The 4K, Blu-ray and Digital versions of the film will include more than 3 hours of previously released extras. The 4K UHD disc and the digitally remastered Blu-ray will include the previously released written intro from the Wachowskis and four commentaries. The bonus disc will include the other previously released special features.

[Scottie]

This is the first movie I saw that caused me to fall in love with film.

I still remember renting this and Forrest Gump on VHS from Blockbuster and the following day, going to a nearby BJ's Wholesale Club and purchasing a DVD player and The Matrix and The Green Mile on DVD.

I'm really, really, really excited to see the upgrade. To this day it remains one of my favorite films.

Also, put me down as someone who likes the new cover. The original poster is iconic and would have probably been the best choice, but it's much better than the existing Blu-ray.

[bluescholar]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The HDR10+ version is in there...but you have to be The One to see it.

HeatEquation be like

[Show spoiler]

Originally Posted by Pyoko

Unfortunately no one can be told what HDR looks like... you have to see it for yourself.

"Welcome to the desert of the HDR10+ support."

[Pieter V]

Originally Posted by chip75

Press release says it will.

This is from Westworld's press release:

The 4K Ultra HD discs and Blu-ray discs of Westworld: Season One will feature Dolby Atmos® soundtracks remixed specifically for the home theater environment to place and move audio anywhere in the room, including overhead. To experience Dolby Atmos at home, a Dolby Atmos enabled AV receiver and additional speakers are required, or a Dolby Atmos enabled sound bar; however, Dolby Atmos soundtracks are also fully backward compatible with traditional audio configurations and legacy home entertainment equipment.

We know how that turned out.

This is why I am waiting for a backcover on Warner releases, which are accurate.

[OutOfBoose]

Originally Posted by Pieter V

This is from Westworld's press release:


We know how that turned out.

This is why I am waiting for a backcover on Warner releases, which are accurate.

Ouch... WB, wtf.

[Quint van der Vaart]

The Blu-Ray may not have featured Dolby Atmos in Westworld's case but the 4k discs did as far as I know so why would this be different ?

[OutOfBoose]

The point is not everything is 100% accurate in WB PRs. Maybe there are some mistakes in case of The Matrix as well (I hope not).

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The HDR10+ version is in there...but you have to be The One to see it.

HeatEquation be like

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Quint van der Vaart

The Blu-Ray may not have featured Dolby Atmos in Westworld's case but the 4k discs did as far as I know so why would this be different ?

The member was asking if the the BD will have Atmos, it's safe to assume that the UHD BD will.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

A remastered Blu-ray disc from the new 4K scan is also included.

See WB, that wasn’t too hard, was it?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Pyoko

Unfortunately no one can be told what HDR looks like... you have to see it for yourself.

I think the Nolan collection was a one-off in terms of the grain, and I've been wondering if it wasn't perhaps a Fotokem deal and not Warner proper. That kind of temporal and very noticeably smeary noise reduction is not something I typically associate with WB, they've usually gone more for spatial softening and letting the compression do the work. Goodfellas looks excellent, and Unforgiven, though light on grain, always shows it at full speed so it never really looks unnatural.

Goodfellas does look nice, but from what I hear it's precisely because Warners weren't heavily involved with it that it looks so nice as it does re: the grain.

MPI would've handled the Nolan stuff for sure, not the large format scanning itself as Fotokem is pretty much the only game in town for that, but for what came after I'm happy to place the blame squarely on Warners' (and Nolan's) shoulders. Then there's the filtering applied to their UHD of Blade Runner 2049 vs Sony's international disc, we can only see the smoke so many times before thinking "there be a fire there!".

Even their Blu-rays still aren't anything super-special UNLESS it came from WAC, those guys aren't fettered by the need to squeeze a bajillion extra language tracks on their discs and they're delivering some seriously sexy-looking Blu-rays as a result. But it seems as if Warners proper are still looking to apply the odd bit of filtering here and there, and that tied in with the Nolan stuff coming off of IPs anyway did the grain no favours at all on those discs.

[OutOfBoose]

I can live with Chamber of Secrets or Unforgiven amount of softening.