The Matrix 4K UHD (1999) - Page 31 - Blu-ray Forum

Brahmzy · 03-14-2018, 12:03 AM

C’mon Amazon pre-order...

Geoff D · 03-14-2018, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OutOfBoose

I can live with Chamber of Secrets or Unforgiven amount of softening.

Sure, sure. And when we don't have anything better to compare it to, as with BR2049, then it'll do because it still kills the old BDs. If they HAVE to filter then I'd rather they low-pass it rather than going down the noise-reduction route but who really knows WTF happened on the Nolan discs? Perhaps he genuinely didn't like the amount of grain he was seeing (HDR bringing it up as it does) so he got them to fudge with it.

Look, as long as they don't go Full Alfred Melting Face with The Matrix then we'll all breathe a sigh of relief. You never go Full Alfred Melting Face.

ROSS.T.G. · 03-14-2018, 12:14 AM

Why’d ya have to bring Alfred into it?!

Geoff D · 03-14-2018, 12:17 AM

Sorry, I should've known better. He's suffered enough already, looking as disfigured as he does.

Bates_Motel · 03-14-2018, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Goodfellas does look nice, but from what I hear it's precisely because Warners weren't heavily involved with it that it looks so nice as it does re: the grain.

AFAIK, Warner WAS involved with Unforgiven, and that looks beautiful. But Goodfellas was indeed outsourced.

Jlouisbarrett · 03-14-2018, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Vangeli

Built-in up-firing speakers that bounce sound off the ceiling and do a decent job of creating an Atmos environment.

They're not cheap but can make Atmos seem more accessible so I wouldn't write off their inclusion in the press release as it only helps all of us.

That’s a good point. I guess it makes sense then. It can be a tool for non-enthusiasts or beginners to sort of “dip their toes in,” so to speak, and get at least some benefit of this new technology.

Guydowood · 03-14-2018, 01:44 AM

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RodChester · 03-14-2018, 02:02 AM

Glad we have a date now. My theater room should be finished by then. I’m bummed that we aren’t getting all the films, as I like the whole series. However, I’m sure the first film is the biggest seller by quite a bit.

hkpictures · 03-14-2018, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Then there's the filtering applied to their UHD of Blade Runner 2049 vs Sony's international disc...

Wait...what is this about filtering on Warner's disc?
First I've heard of this.

So, there actually is an incentive to pick up the Sony disc?

FilmFreakosaurus · 03-14-2018, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hkpictures

Wait...what is this about filtering on Warner's disc?
First I've heard of this.

Yes, the better encode is from Sony: U.K., Europe, or Japan. They dropped the filtering on the WB disc and therefore there is more detail.

hkpictures · 03-14-2018, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

Yes, the better encode is from Sony: U.K., Europe, or Japan. They dropped the filtering on the WB disc and therefore there is more detail.

Interesting, I'm glad I haven't bought the disc yet.

I guess I'll try to find where I can buy the Japanese one...or whatever is cheaper.

bluescholar · 03-14-2018, 02:33 AM

I'd love to see a screenshot comparison of those two to see whats really going on.

hkpictures · 03-14-2018, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bluescholar

I'd love to see a screenshot comparison of those two to see whats really going on.

I've been searching around on the Blade Runner 2049 forum, and I found this:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/132062

There is a slight difference, but not enough to really warrant an import imo.

bluescholar · 03-14-2018, 02:39 AM

^Perfect! Thank you, that's all I really needed. Cheers.

Mr Anderson · 03-14-2018, 03:41 AM

Just saw the press release, now to catch up with the thread!

Remastered Blu is as far as I got on the release, and I can't wait to see both!

jmat91 · 03-14-2018, 04:25 AM

4K scan is good enough for me, the old blu ray is artefacts hell.

Even if they stuff up the 4k release, I;ll grab the 4K SCAN on blu ray if they choose that option.

ambient_indie · 03-14-2018, 04:49 AM

hopefully it removes the revisionist blanket green tint. But we'll see. I'm guessing no. Still exciting to see this out in 4k!

Mr Anderson · 03-14-2018, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Sure, sure. And when we don't have anything better to compare it to, as with BR2049, then it'll do because it still kills the old BDs. If they HAVE to filter then I'd rather they low-pass it rather than going down the noise-reduction route but who really knows WTF happened on the Nolan discs? Perhaps he genuinely didn't like the amount of grain he was seeing (HDR bringing it up as it does) so he got them to fudge with it.

Look, as long as they don't go Full Alfred Melting Face with The Matrix then we'll all breathe a sigh of relief. You never go Full Alfred Melting Face.

So are you saying that "The first rule of UHD Mastering is that you never go Full Alfred Melting Face"?

I wish the second through the fifth rules were that you also never go "FAMF"... we'd end up with a lot better transfers if that were the case.

OutOfBoose · 03-14-2018, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Look, as long as they don't go Full Alfred Melting Face with The Matrix then we'll all breathe a sigh of relief. You never go Full Alfred Melting Face.

The method should be called "The Melting Butler".

I think we can't really compare Nolanses to any proper OCN-sourced 4K. HP 1-2 is a good reference for a softened super35 OCN material in 4K. Even Unforgiven doesn't fit, since it's not super35.

jamesdevil · 03-14-2018, 08:32 AM

Best cover art The Matrix has had on home video. Awesome. My 2nd most anticipated catalog title this year.

03-14-2018, 12:03 AM	#601
Brahmzy Senior Member Member since:Dec 2014 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- iTunes collection:- Trading Score:28	C’mon Amazon pre-order...

03-14-2018, 12:14 AM	#603
ROSS.T.G. Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Ontario, Canada 4K collection:393 Blu-ray collection:1549 Blu-ray reviews:16	Why’d ya have to bring Alfred into it?!

03-14-2018, 12:17 AM	#604
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Sorry, I should've known better. He's suffered enough already, looking as disfigured as he does.

03-14-2018, 01:44 AM	#607
Guydowood Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Guydowood 4K collection:1444 Blu-ray collection:3262 DVD collection:74 MA collection:1256 Digital collection:1623 iTunes collection:1514 Prime collection:1267 Blu-ray reviews: 4292 Trading Score:53	MATRIX.jpg

03-14-2018, 02:02 AM	#608
RodChester Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Jun 2009 Location:Illinois Home Theater Gallery:63 4K collection:333 Blu-ray collection:3380 DVD collection:141 Trading Score:129	Glad we have a date now. My theater room should be finished by then. I’m bummed that we aren’t getting all the films, as I like the whole series. However, I’m sure the first film is the biggest seller by quite a bit.

03-14-2018, 02:33 AM	#612
bluescholar Senior Member Member since:Oct 2016	I'd love to see a screenshot comparison of those two to see whats really going on.

03-14-2018, 02:39 AM	#614
bluescholar Senior Member Member since:Oct 2016	^Perfect! Thank you, that's all I really needed. Cheers.

03-14-2018, 03:41 AM	#615
Mr Anderson Active Member Member since:Jul 2017 Blu-ray collection:1	Just saw the press release, now to catch up with the thread! Remastered Blu is as far as I got on the release, and I can't wait to see both!

03-14-2018, 04:25 AM	#616
jmat91 Expert Member Member since:Jan 2014 Location:Somewhere South Blu-ray collection:2312 DVD collection:2	4K scan is good enough for me, the old blu ray is artefacts hell. Even if they stuff up the 4k release, I;ll grab the 4K SCAN on blu ray if they choose that option.

03-14-2018, 04:49 AM	#617
ambient_indie Expert Member Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Portland, OR 4K collection:60 Blu-ray collection:959 DVD collection:7 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:8	hopefully it removes the revisionist blanket green tint. But we'll see. I'm guessing no. Still exciting to see this out in 4k!

03-14-2018, 08:32 AM	#620
jamesdevil Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Raleigh, NC 4K collection:640 Blu-ray collection:987 DVD collection:18 MA collection:571 Digital collection:25 iTunes collection:119 Trading Score:20	Best cover art The Matrix has had on home video. Awesome. My 2nd most anticipated catalog title this year.

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