Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[JCRW82]

Originally Posted by flash.over

HDD have updated their bit about the mono:

Ugh, I guess we are now waiting for individual reviews to see what is up with the Mono Mix. The reviewer had no issues comparing the picture quality of the 4K UHD release with the Criterion Laserdisc, not sure why he can't do the same with the audio.

[Nori]

If Scream actually horizontally stretched the image as shown in HDD’s screen captures then this can’t possible be an upgrade imo. Looks like Halloween “wide” edition. With some luck HDD messed up with the captures.

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by JCRW82

Ugh, I guess we are now waiting for individual reviews to see what is up with the Mono Mix. The reviewer had no issues comparing the picture quality of the 4K UHD release with the Criterion Laserdisc, not sure why he can't do the same with the audio.

They probably don’t have a copy of the LD mono readily available to compare to…it’s not quite as simple a task to grab that as is screenshots from earlier BD’s.

[BobSimms]

Gonna need another mono shoot-out video, this time comparing this disc to the Laserdisc.

I’m having a hard time seeing a geometry difference in the caps, but I do see a tiny bit more information in the image on the bottom of the 2013. One thing is for sure, there is a lot more clarity in the 2021 cap currently being compared. Look at the text on the cover of the paperback in Lynda’s bag.

[JediJones77]

I got a link to download the mono track in one of the YouTube videos about this. So it's out there if people want it.

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by Nori

If Scream actually horizontally stretched the image as shown in HDD’s screen captures then this can’t possible be an upgrade imo. Looks like Halloween “wide” edition.

FFS, this is not some abomination of geometry EVEN IF it is a bit different. Again, this is anamorphic photography, and removing the inherent distortion in that isn’t as exact a science as you might expect. If anything, I WELCOME a slight geometry change as it’s proof that SF actually scanned the OCN as advertised. As someone who’s incredibly sensitive to these types of things, and actively argued with people in the Explorers thread over the ridiculous contention that you couldn’t see that disc’s geometry problems in motion (you easily could, and it bothered me so much that I fixed it myself and created a watchable version), this difference is *incredibly* slight, and there is absolutely zero chance that anyone would ever see it without a side-by-side comparison like this. I’m all for criticizing releases where criticism is due, but some of you will seriously never be happy.

[chuffster]

Sorry to interject, but I have the UK 4K disc from Lionsgate.Is this new disc better?

[BobSimms]

Originally Posted by chuffster

sorry to interject, but i have the uk 4k disc from lionsagte.is this new disc better?

Yes.

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by chuffster

Sorry to interject, but I have the UK 4K disc from Lionsagte.Is this new disc better?

Most likely.

[chuffster]

Originally Posted by BobSimms

Yes.

cheers!

[grodd]

I would wait before making too many detailed claims with regards to the picture. Highdefdigest "screencaps" seem to have all kind of wierdness going on.

The screenshots from Silence of the Lambs seem to have some strange problems as well.

[WITCHCULT]

Originally Posted by cminer72

Picked it up at Best Buy without issue. In store pick up works if you have it close by.

Yeah, weird. Guess today was the release date for Best Buy? I see it available for pickup at a couple stores in my area.

[avs commenter]

Why did HDD not have screenshot comparison from the 2018 UHD? Why compare it only to HD releases?

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by avs commenter

Why did HDD not have screenshot comparison from the 2018 UHD? Why compare it only to HD releases?

The reviewer said he was unable to rip the 4K, so BD to BD was the best apples to apples comparison.

[lilboyblu]

Originally Posted by Lotso

Thanks for answer! Hopefully they will have the producer's cut of Halloween 6 as well when they release it. It's the only version I have yet to seen (not that I think it will improve on the movie).

Also does anybody know why SF didn't do like they did with F13 last year and release all the new Halloween movies on 4K and only 1-5, sorry if this has been awnsered before.

That one was also available as a standalone. Didn't realize it had gone out of print as it had been on every October movie display for cheap for the past several years.

[Casual_G4m3r]

Interesting debate on original audio vs remixed for surround.

My take is that when a film comes to UHD, I want to have the original theater experience on the disc. I mean that in terms of the "cut", the color timing, framing, sfx/foley fx used, audio mix, etc. That is my personal feelings of what a "correct" release should be.

If that disc has those things plus an additional audio mix, a different cut of the film, or what have you, then that's ok as well. More variety is better IMO, but I do not want the original creation to be altered or tainted, if that is the only version available on the UHD.

On topic: I am excited to see the reviews start to come in for this release. I am planning to eventually pick up all of these Halloween releases regardless, just because it's my favorite horror franchise, but I do hope this ends up being a stellar product (filtered mono and all).

[cminer72]

Discs were loose. Full of fingerprints and scratches. No quality control with Scream Factory. Clowns.

[NeilZ]

Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

FFS, this is not some abomination of geometry EVEN IF it is a bit different. Again, this is anamorphic photography, and removing the inherent distortion in that isn’t as exact a science as you might expect. If anything, I WELCOME a slight geometry change as it’s proof that SF actually scanned the OCN as advertised. As someone who’s incredibly sensitive to these types of things, and actively argued with people in the Explorers thread over the ridiculous contention that you couldn’t see that disc’s geometry problems in motion (you easily could, and it bothered me so much that I fixed it myself and created a watchable version), this difference is *incredibly* slight, and there is absolutely zero chance that anyone would ever see it without a side-by-side comparison like this. I’m all for criticizing releases where criticism is due, but some of you will seriously never be happy.

If the final disc comes out looking like the captures posted by high def then this isn't just a slight variation. Obviously there can and often are changes between scans but it shouldn't be anything that jumps at you. When it's to the degree where the actors look fatter, and the aspect ratio appears altered in the process, it's not unreasonable to view it as a problem. Assuming that the captures are correct then this is a complete slip up on their part. I agree many casual viewers wouldn't catch these things, but your average forum goer absolutely will.

That being said the fact that the aspect ratio is altered does give me hope it's a mistake on the website's part.

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by cminer72

Discs were loose. Full of fingerprints and scratches. No quality control with Scream Factory. Clowns.

I’ve been collecting physical media since discs were a thing and still have yet to have this happen. I’m just lucky I guess as I know it must be a really prevalent issue as many people complain about it.

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by NeilZ

That being said the fact that the aspect ratio is altered does give me hope it's a mistake on the website's part.

There is absolutely something wonky going on with their caps. They show the 2007 and 2021 versions sharing geometry, with the 2013 version looking squeezed by comparison. The CAH screens, on the other hand, don’t show this disparity between the 2007 and 2013. Add to this the inexplicable decision by HDD to upscale all of their shots to 2160p, and there’s no way I’d base any assessment of the geometry on them.