Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[NeilZ]

Originally Posted by jayman3

Shit. The amount of criticism up in here, you’d think folks watch the film under a magnifying glass actively looking for faults rather than enjoying the movie themselves.

A lot of people here already own the 2018 uhd release, so they want to see a significant improvement. Right now looks like they messed up with the aspect ratio (stretched horizontally) and subpar compression. Not promising at all.

[cuzzin]

Originally Posted by SimpleG

Received this today

When we were first planning for these releases, we had hoped that supply chain pressures would ease up by the late summer of this year. Reality has been somewhat less forgiving, and we’ve been experiencing issues shipping from China, the European Union, and Mexico to get all of the parts together for these collectible offers.

The good news is that everything has turned out even better than we expected when it comes to the pins, the vinyl, and the embossed slipcases featuring our newly commissioned artwork. We’re also delighted by the picture quality of our new 4K transfers for all five of the films, and we hope you’ll enjoy them, as well.

The posters for these releasees have been printed, the enamel pins have arrived, and we have started to receive the 7” vinyl into our warehouse. The one piece we are still waiting on to arrive is the 7” vinyl for the original Halloween. This has shipped from the European Union and is scheduled for delivery in the US within the next few days. This delay has kept us from being able to ship the most popular of the Halloween offers.

We will know the precise delivery date for the outstanding 7” in the next couple of days. Once it has arrived in the United States, our warehouse has a truck ready to drive to the import terminal, pick up the goods, and bring them back so we can start shipping orders out as soon as possible.

All the best,

Shout

Customer Service
Shout! Factory
1640 S. Sepulveda Blvd.
Ste. 400
Los Angeles, CA 90025

Oh, God. Sounds like we could be into the week after next before we finally receive this.

[CreasyBear]

Originally Posted by SimpleG

[Show spoiler]Received this today

When we were first planning for these releases, we had hoped that supply chain pressures would ease up by the late summer of this year. Reality has been somewhat less forgiving, and we’ve been experiencing issues shipping from China, the European Union, and Mexico to get all of the parts together for these collectible offers.

The good news is that everything has turned out even better than we expected when it comes to the pins, the vinyl, and the embossed slipcases featuring our newly commissioned artwork. We’re also delighted by the picture quality of our new 4K transfers for all five of the films, and we hope you’ll enjoy them, as well.

The posters for these releasees have been printed, the enamel pins have arrived, and we have started to receive the 7” vinyl into our warehouse. The one piece we are still waiting on to arrive is the 7” vinyl for the original Halloween. This has shipped from the European Union and is scheduled for delivery in the US within the next few days. This delay has kept us from being able to ship the most popular of the Halloween offers.

We will know the precise delivery date for the outstanding 7” in the next couple of days. Once it has arrived in the United States, our warehouse has a truck ready to drive to the import terminal, pick up the goods, and bring them back so we can start shipping orders out as soon as possible.

All the best,

Shout

Customer Service
Shout! Factory
1640 S. Sepulveda Blvd.
Ste. 400
Los Angeles, CA 90025

May I please inquire as to why the sets with only the 4K UHD + Poster are not being shipped yet, since it appears all of those are in stock?

[themadbutcher]

Originally Posted by NeilZ

A lot of people here already own the 2018 uhd release, so they want to see a significant improvement. Right now looks like they messed up with the aspect ratio (stretched horizontally) and subpar compression. Not promising at all.

Until we see proper screencaps to compare with every other edition (basically Caps-a-holic), I don't think we can definitively say that it's the 4K transfer that is wrong in regards to the geometry.

For instance, if we compare the headlights in this shot, it's the 35th anniversary transfer that looks too "skinny". These types of issues can crop up with anamorphically shot films but unless they're very drastic--like the 1st Criterion DRESSED TO KILL--, I don't it counts as an error.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

*Record Scratch* Yep, that's me... all snuggied up, ready to watch my new Shout Factory UHD, then this guy aloop shows up, screen caps in hand, and starts strangling me out of nowhere mumbling under his cheap [but better than Part 4] mask about SDR Conversion, Dean Cundey and 2018 Lionsgate discs. Now I'm back on the Internet googling dinosaurs and buying old Halloween sets from wetmovie1, Thorn doesn't exist.

Tommy’s my new friend. He knows all about dinosaurs.

[moviebuff75]

Originally Posted by y2jman

well all I know you guys convince me to get new 1978 Halloween last week getting mon

now going back and forth mono mess again kindof think I shouldn't had order but nonetheless i'm going to keep it sell liongates 4k version

plus down the road if I get 2-5 not going to do it tues focus on getting universal monsters 4k instead at those will match up with shout 4k version 78 halloween

I would say get it.

[slasherdisc]

Last time I’ll order directly from Shout. Figures the exclusive content would hold up the shipping. They should’ve offered an option of just the movies only.
These are also in eco cases is that right?

[happydood]

Originally Posted by phobicsquirrel

He is old AF

This new era we're in is one where it doesn't matter what's true or accurate and people just say whatever, isn't it?

[darkonex]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

New Pannysonic firmware WHATNOW?!? Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek!

This is both awesome and not because I paid to get custom firmware for mine, so now I'll have to lose my region free capability to fix this Halloween issue if it really is an issue

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by darkonex

This is both awesome and not because I paid to get custom firmware for mine, so now I'll have to lose my region free capability to fix this Halloween issue if it really is an issue

Don't worry, matey will have an update to the custom FW soon enough.

[darkonex]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Don't worry, matey will have an update to the custom FW soon enough.

I bought my custom firmware from regionfreedom a few months back, and just checked and they have the new available but I dunno how to get it. I suspect I have to go through the whole spiel and pay again which I kinda don't wanna

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by NeilZ

A lot of people here already own the 2018 uhd release, so they want to see a significant improvement. Right now looks like they messed up with the aspect ratio (stretched horizontally) and subpar compression. Not promising at all.

If anyone noticed the “stretching” without toggling between releases and using a perfect circle to compare buttons on a sweater for perfect roundness, I’d be profoundly shocked. The disc looks great. It’s the best the film has ever looked, for heaven’s sake. Watching this in Dolby vision is a real treat. If you want to pass on this over supposedly stretched geometry (based on one review that already wrongly reviewed the mono track), be my guest. Meanwhile, I’ll be muxing in the Criterion mono with this video and enjoying the hell out of this.

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by DaylightsEnd

This atmos mix for this H1978 4k uhd is NOTHING like the unfortunate, revisionist DTX audio on Thing 4k uhd release, which has amazing pq but literally had me reaching for the prior blu ray for the proper audio experience that I know belongs with the film.

It is, however, exactly like every crappy surround version of Halloween ever. Not a single revisionist foley effect or audio change in general is different than they’ve ever been.

[rocknblues81]

Originally Posted by DadHotel

I'm with you on this. I was a fan of the general franchise in my younger years (elementary to middle school), but after a rewatch of the entire series sometime in high school, I changed my mind. I prefer Halloween '78 as a stand alone, but have come to accept I-III as a "John Carpenter presents Halloween" trilogy in my own head. Itching for my pre-orders to come in of those three.

I'm never going to be this person.

Yes, the original is the best, but I can't be down with just watching originals.

It would get to repetitive and boring to me.

[grodd]

Originally Posted by aloop

As others have said, the compression is pretty bad compared to the 2018 Lionsgate disc.

I'm linking some examples below. Note that these are PNGs, so they are 5-6MB each!

lionsgate-1.png
screamfactory-1.png
lionsgate-2.png
screamfactory-2.png
lionsgate-3.png
screamfactory-3.png

Edit: Forgot to mention 2 things: I haven't actually watched the disc on my TV yet, so these issues might not be as noticeable in motion (to most people), and don't take the color as very accurate, I only used madVR's default HDR-to-SDR settings. Not that an HDR-to-SDR conversion is ever accurate.

Each pic the new version is massively better with maybe some parts of the first pic. laking. I don't see massive amount of more compression issues in pic 2 and 3.

Pic 3 is such an improvement it makes me want to drop kick the old version. The overall shadow detail, artifacting etc are just light years better. Compression artifacts stand out more because you are getting a vastly more detailed picture.

[rocknblues81]

Originally Posted by CreasyBear

Good for you?

"Original only" folks are too cool for school.

[Bates_Motel]

Originally Posted by Nori

So they Scream did mess up the aspect ratio after all (squished, making everything look fatter). On top of the bad compression and stretched picture, I'm not totally sure the colors look uniformly better. Looks like a hit or miss case scenario. If this is what the disc looks like I'll happily stick to the 2018 release.

It's funny you are assuming the previous disc was correct to begin with when this new release is the only one from the original negative. Gotta love the Internet.

[Jay H.]

Originally Posted by rocknblues81

"Original only" folks are to cool for school.

Yes. Yes we are.

[Croweyes1121]

Originally Posted by Bates_Motel

It's funny you are assuming the previous disc was correct to begin with when this new release is the only one from the original negative. Gotta love the Internet.

I've just measured both in AutoCAD. The Lionsgate measures 2.35:1, whereas the SF measures 2.39:1. Unless I'm mistaken, that would actually make the SF correct, not the other way around (the top image is not measured incorrectly - the red bounding box only looks like it's above the lower letterbox bar in the image - it's right on the line when I zoom in close).



https://www.unravel.com.au/aspect-ratio-cheat-sheet

Either way, it's such a freaking small difference, I'll absolutely never notice one way or the other. And neither would anyone else without switching between the two sources. And if they say otherwise, frankly, they're lying.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by grodd

Each pic the new version is massively better with maybe some parts of the first pic. laking. I don't see massive amount of more compression issues in pic 2 and 3.

Pic 3 is such an improvement it makes me want to drop kick the old version. The overall shadow detail, artifacting etc are just light years better. Compression artifacts stand out more because you are getting a vastly more detailed picture.

That's not how it works. Compression artefacts stand out more because the compression is mediocre. But if these has FEL Dolby Vision then that may be going some way to making them look a trifle more filmic in motion than those caps where grain has seemingly been replaced with chunks of digital shite.