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Old 09-28-2019, 01:45 PM   #841
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Reminds me of what an old Texas-based movie critic (Joe Bob Briggs--fake name) use to say: "don't let the plot get in the way of the action"! While this seems to increasingly be the case with each new Wick movie...I still enjoy them.
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Old 09-28-2019, 01:56 PM   #842
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[Show spoiler]i still don't know why when Wick and Winston agreed to fight with high table (at continental) why didn't they just shoot the adjudicator? there's no reason to let her go, except well... of course she'd come back for the next part... actually i shouldn't rational too much about the plot really lol
I liked that a lot, too. I think the only thing that will matter is how she dies in the next chapter. It better be good.
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[Show spoiler]i still don't know why when Wick and Winston agreed to fight with high table (at continental) why didn't they just shoot the adjudicator? there's no reason to let her go, except well... of course she'd come back for the next part... actually i shouldn't rational too much about the plot really lol
Towards the end the adjudicator said why, Wick & Winston wanted to parley with the high table, that was the plan, why would they kill the person to parley with. Winston never wanted out he wanted his position back “to serve”. I don’t think there will be a need for her in the next 1, she played her part well so I wouldn’t mind a cameo.

Also Wick doesn’t have an issue with the adjudicator, his issue is with the high table now. If the high table tells the adjudicator to drop it she will.
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Old 09-28-2019, 05:40 PM   #844
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[Show spoiler]i still don't know why when Wick and Winston agreed to fight with high table (at continental) why didn't they just shoot the adjudicator? there's no reason to let her go, except well... of course she'd come back for the next part... actually i shouldn't rational too much about the plot really lol
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[Show spoiler]the Adjudicator was correct in that the Continental didn't have the resources to fight an infinite number of High Table hit squads. So Winston pretends to kill John in order to get back in their good graces in order to buy time for another showdown another day.
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Old 09-28-2019, 06:13 PM   #845
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[Show spoiler]the Adjudicator was correct in that the Continental didn't have the resources to fight an infinite number of High Table hit squads. So Winston pretends to kill John in order to get back in their good graces in order to buy time for another showdown another day.
I didn't realize that it was a setup. I thought John fell pretty hard from high enough with a bullet in the chest to succumb to his wounds. He's a tough cookie that John Wick guy.

In John Wick 4 we might see the female adjudicator in a fight with John Wick.
But she must have a million clone replacements. Wick'd better have lots of ammunitions ...

* The music score in the first chapter is the best. My take.
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Old 09-28-2019, 07:37 PM   #846
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I didn't realize that it was a setup. I thought John fell pretty hard from high enough with a bullet in the chest to succumb to his wounds. He's a tough cookie that John Wick guy.
And don't forget John's bullet-resistant suit that Winston knew he was wearing. There's definitely a reason Winston didn't shoot him in the head, or take any other precautions to be sure he was actually dead before the credits rolled...
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Old 09-28-2019, 08:09 PM   #847
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True, but he fell from pretty high up and pretty hard. Was he also wearing a shock-proof jacket?
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Old 09-28-2019, 10:37 PM   #848
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All these effusive comments just go to show how out of step my taste is with the modern action crowd. I couldn’t sell my copy fast enough after watching this.
It’s comments like this that confirm for me that we’ll never have world peace.
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Old 09-29-2019, 12:35 AM   #849
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Towards the end the adjudicator said why, Wick & Winston wanted to parley with the high table, that was the plan, why would they kill the person to parley with. Winston never wanted out he wanted his position back “to serve”. I don’t think there will be a need for her in the next 1, she played her part well so I wouldn’t mind a cameo.

Also Wick doesn’t have an issue with the adjudicator, his issue is with the high table now. If the high table tells the adjudicator to drop it she will.
well... who sent adjudicator? high table, isn't it? and they all know she's here to judge and have whoever she wants to be punished / killed... and let her walk away, you think that makes sense...? if Wick wants to fight high table, she'd go first and never walks out from continental...

and don't let me start with JW BS, he said he wants to survive all this so he can "REMEMBER" his dead wife, really? how many does he need to kill? how selfish is that? and he broke the rule and doesn't want to face the consequences? and wants to starts over to break the rule / promise all over again?

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Old 09-29-2019, 12:43 AM   #850
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What's the point in killing her though? They'd just send another one.
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Old 09-29-2019, 12:45 AM   #851
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What's the point in killing her though? They'd just send another one.
i'm thinking about that too, well if he can kill all those guys so kill her just to stop / stall her from the killing orders, makes sense?
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Old 09-29-2019, 01:33 AM   #852
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i'm thinking about that too, well if he can kill all those guys so kill her just to stop / stall her from the killing orders, makes sense?
The point is that she's just a mouthpiece for the High Table, she's there to tell the players what the situation is and not much else. She's not the one making the orders so killing her achieves nothing. Besides, Wick usually kills those who are out to kill him, as in physically kill him by their own hand, but she's not there in that capacity. That's one of the things that endeared me to JW3, that a bureaucrat can waltz in and waltz out of the mayhem without incurring a scratch, dispensing the fury of the High Table in such a dispassionate way. Love it.
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Old 09-29-2019, 02:11 AM   #853
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What is it going to happen in Chapter 4; John Wick has to go ultimately just like Tony Stark.

https://john-wick.fandom.com/wiki/The_High_Table

https://www.mensjournal.com/entertai...n-john-wick-4/
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I thought JW3 was pretty good and on par with the other 2. Too bad we have to wait for part 4. As far as the disc, the sound was more dynamic on the first 2.

But they're biting Asian cinema a bit, when people think they're innovating. They straight ripped off that motorcycle fight from The Villainess. And I guess the 2 guys from The Raid helped with fight choreography, but The Raid has way better action scenes due to Iko Uwais' talent. That fight with the 2 guys from The Raid at the end of JW3 was kind of a let down after seeing how they worked with Iko.
I simply registered for this. The Raid movies were crap, IMO. Martial arts movies are so repetitive. If you have seen one you have seen them all. The Raid movies aren't any different from the thousands of martial arts movies out there. I couldn't even finish the second one. Awful movies. You people act like as if martial arts movies didn't exist before The Raid films.

Iko Iwais has no charisma and screen presence. No personality at all. He just looks like some random stunt man. Totally forgettable.

I'll take the John Wick films over any Asian action movie out there. Infact, I'll take any Hollywood action movie over any Asian action movie out there. It's not even close, IMO.

I'll delete my account after sometime.

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As soon as Wick started breaking down those old revolvers in a Tuco-from-TGTBATU stylee it was pretty obvious that this movie wears its influences proudly and I love it for that, that it still has its own identity even when they're ripping off lines from the Matrix that were delivered by the same frickin' actor!

Funnily enough I thought the motorcycle bit was the worst action scene in the whole film, very clunky and full of CG, so while people will pat themselves on the back for saying "they stole that from The Villainess" they don't sound half as clever as they think they do. And while the three-way scrap at the end doesn't match the extraordinary one from the end of The Raid (throat slashing with a broken fluorescent light bulb optional) it's one of the finest such scenes I've ever seen in a Western action movie, all the more so considering how creaky Keanu is getting.
The Raid movies are crap, IMO. Martial arts movies are so repetitive.The Raid movies aren't any different from the thousands of martial arts movies out there. You people behave like as if martial arts movies didn't exist before The Raid films.

I really don't get hype about these crap movies.
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Do yourself a favor and watch The Raid 1 and 2... then come back and comment. Point is, other movies have done it before and better. Not my fault you haven’t expanded your knowledge beyond Hollywood.

Anyway... enjoyable movie. Can’t wait for the next one.
That's because The Raid movies are crap and they only have an internet following. People in real life don't give two shits about these movies. Awful movies.

Lol other movies have done it "better"? Why are you posting your opinion as if it were a fact? Movies are subjective. They have no objective quality.

Just deal with it.
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The point is that she's just a mouthpiece for the High Table, she's there to tell the players what the situation is and not much else. She's not the one making the orders so killing her achieves nothing. Besides, Wick usually kills those who are out to kill him, as in physically kill him by their own hand, but she's not there in that capacity. That's one of the things that endeared me to JW3, that a bureaucrat can waltz in and waltz out of the mayhem without incurring a scratch, dispensing the fury of the High Table in such a dispassionate way. Love it.
well respect your comment but she was the one who called and order to deconsecrate NY continental, wasn't she?... so she MADE a decision and more over in front of them...well come to think about this she MADE a lot of decisions, 7 bullets, 7 slashes and so on...

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I didn't realize that it was a setup. I thought John fell pretty hard from high enough with a bullet in the chest to succumb to his wounds. He's a tough cookie that John Wick guy.

In John Wick 4 we might see the female adjudicator in a fight with John Wick.
But she must have a million clone replacements. Wick'd better have lots of ammunitions ...

* The music score in the first chapter is the best. My take.
I don’t think John cares about the adjudicator, she’s just a messenger, like you said a clone. I think John & The Bowery King will team up to go after the high table, maybe with Winston’s help behind the scenes. I think the next chapter really has to involve more of the high table and an overwhelming amount of bullet proof bad guys, overwhelming odds, more people that he’s worked with in the past, and I think it should go a little darker like a pissed off John who’s been pushed too hard. Chapter 3 was the best in the series and it’s really going to be hard to top it, but if they keep working with the Taron Tactical & Vigilance Elite guys, bring in some fresh creative ideas, it can be done. The dogs have to come back again though.

The club scene in chapter 1 is one of my favorite parts in the series. Music/Lighting Change/Shooting w/Martial Arts...it’s perfect. Whenever I know someone who hasn’t seen any of the movies I show them that scene first and their faces go

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well... who sent adjudicator? high table, isn't it? and they all know she's here to judge and have whoever she wants to be punished / killed... and let her walk away, you think that makes sense...? if Wick wants to fight high table, she'd go first and never walks out from continental...

and don't let me start with JW BS, he said he wants to survive all this so he can "REMEMBER" his dead wife, really? how many does he need to kill? how selfish is that? and he broke the rule and doesn't want to face the consequences? and wants to starts over to break the rule / promise all over again?
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The point is that she's just a mouthpiece for the High Table, she's there to tell the players what the situation is and not much else. She's not the one making the orders so killing her achieves nothing. Besides, Wick usually kills those who are out to kill him, as in physically kill him by their own hand, but she's not there in that capacity. That's one of the things that endeared me to JW3, that a bureaucrat can waltz in and waltz out of the mayhem without incurring a scratch, dispensing the fury of the High Table in such a dispassionate way. Love it.
Could not have said it better.

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I can easily see some of you contributing to the script of next Wick's Chapter ...

You think more dog's ball chewing is good.

If they want to keep the franchise alive, like Rambo, maybe Wick after the apocalypse around the High Table's leaders and staff would be forced to go into exile in another country. ...And face various assassins in each country. He could become a globetrotter, meet a bunch of friendly doggies.
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