Halloween 4K UHD (1978)

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

Scream has a BLUE TINT, and the FILM looks wiped out drunk to me. Look at the SKYLINE, the WHITE paint on the road is BLUE, the street sign is WHITE on Lionsgate and BLUE on the Scream, The Metal Guard rails look Silver/Gray on the Lionsgate, and Blue on the Scream. I used my eyeballs LOL! The ROAD is BLUE it's quite obvious what happened here. Revisionist use of HDR crayons. No version is perfect but these colors don't work for me.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...6&l=1&i=2&go=1

Blue is what it looked like on 35mm prints. Blue gels do what it does. You know what I mean? Not desaturated and nearly black and white as on the horrible Lionsgate UHD.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by OgamiittoMcJ

caps are a bit disappointing, weird some look better than others
for compression and noise reduction
or maybe that's down to different prints used ?

still better colour overall imo + Atmos

so just the usual kind of Shout release then ?

Better colour? Why is it better?

[BillieCassin]

Originally Posted by Torgon

There is no consensus and never will be. You have to make up your own mind.

The battle rages on...

I disagree, at least so far. Consensus doesn't mean unanimous.

If you go back and take a look since people started getting these in hand last week, the vast majority have said that it definitely beats the previous release in multiple areas, including PQ. Even the folks who are posting and analyzing screenshots for compression seem to say as such.

The only posts I've seen that have disagreed have been disappointed in the HDR10 presentation. Apparently, it is not as good as the Dolby Vision (which seems to be a trend, unfortunately).

So I'd say the consensus at this point regarding PQ is - this is a great disc in Dolby Vision, but if you can only do HDR10, then YMMV.

We'll see how that continues to stack up once more people get them in their hot little hands.

EDIT: Someone should make a poll!

[OgamiittoMcJ]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Better colour? Why is it better?

well apart for some blue tint

overall its warmer and has colour lol
LG is almost B&W desaturated

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

Better colour? Why is it better?

Because the colour of the new UHD matches 35mm prints very closely.

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by OgamiittoMcJ

well apart for some blue tint

overall its warmer and has colour lol
LG is almost B&W desaturated

And why is that better? You like it better?

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

Because the colour of the new UHD matches 35mm prints very closely.

[Torgon]

Originally Posted by BillieCassin

So I'd say the consensus at this point regarding PQ is - this is a great disc in Dolby Vision, but if you can only do HDR10, then YMMV.

Makes me glad I chose the Dolby Vision route (TV/4K player/receiver) when I jumped into 4K .

[Noremac Mij]

dvdmike, I’ve seen enough film materials of Halloween in recent years that I’m comfortable with my opinion. No home video has ever been exact, but this is close enough to for me. 35mm sure as hell didn’t and don’t look like the desaturated Lionsgate UHD. Unless you want to show me some sample or scan I missed, I’ll fully stand by what I said. The colour grading on Shout’s! UHD is similar to Criterion’s LD and both are similar to 35mm.

[Damonstein]

Found this in best buy and just cancelled my order. $10 cheaper anyway.

[OgamiittoMcJ]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

And why is that better? You like it better?

sorry, ok I prefer
I prefer new colour overall, when comparing caps
does that work better

which out of the two do you prefer for colour grade ?

[dml1988]

As someone who owns both the Scream Factory and Lionsgate UHD's, there is no competition over which one is better, it's the Scream Factory. People can blow up the image and nitpick all they want. In motion, being from the OCN, the Scream Factory release is amazing. Now if I could just find a cheap UHD external player to rip the video with Dolby Vision and sync the Laserdisc Mono then I am set

[OgamiittoMcJ]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

Scream has a BLUE TINT,

[Show spoiler]and the FILM looks wiped out drunk to me. Look at the SKYLINE, the WHITE paint on the road is BLUE, the street sign is WHITE on Lionsgate and BLUE on the Scream, The Metal Guard rails look Silver/Gray on the Lionsgate, and Blue on the Scream. I used my eyeballs LOL! The ROAD is BLUE it's quite obvious what happened here. Revisionist use of HDR crayons. No version is perfect but these colors don't work for me.

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=1&x...6&l=1&i=2&go=1

Some kind of midnight blue filter seems applied imho.

I noticed the metal on knife/blade on one of first screenshots posted was much more blue on SF, was about 20 pages ago
though maybe that was the lighting they used ?

[Noremac Mij]

Originally Posted by OgamiittoMcJ

I noticed the metal on knife/blade on one of first screenshots posted was much more blue on SF, was about 20 pages ago
though maybe that was the lighting they used ?

Lighting. Blue gels.

[Telemachus]

I think HII is going to be the big seller, I know a bunch of people that only bought that one or III. I think plenty are sticking with the Halloween disc (or discs) they already have owned. I got the first four like a sucker cause I missed the boxset boat, but am passing on part 5 (for now). Hopefully I can just jump the story to 6 when those come out next year.

[BobSimms]

Originally Posted by Noremac Mij

Blue is what it looked like on 35mm prints. Blue gels do what it does. You know what I mean? Not desaturated and nearly black and white as on the horrible Lionsgate UHD.

The “blue gels” were used throughout all the photography, including the daytime scenes?

[CreasyBear]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

If you can't see them without zooming you need the glasses in your dp

[BluProofie]

1-5 shipped from Diabolik!

[The80s]

Originally Posted by CreasyBear

H18 was terrific.

You say terrific. I say terrible.

[rainbowbattlekid]

Sorry to ask something that's probably been answered here but since lots are about the UHD, is the BD that comes with this the same new transfer? Plus another old one maybe? I wasn't clear on those details.