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Conan The Barbarian · 10-05-2021, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Casual_G4m3r

I'll have my copy here from BBY tonight. I have seen this release has been a bit divisive among fans, but my takeaway from this thread seems to be leaning toward this being an upgrade over the previous UHD, while not exactly being "The Definitive" release we all hoped for.

Is that a correct summation?

More like

“A better upgrade then the lions gate, but if you put a space telescope to a screen cap….”

Croweyes1121 · 10-05-2021, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Casual_G4m3r

I'll have my copy here from BBY tonight. I have seen this release has been a bit divisive among fans, but my takeaway from this thread seems to be leaning toward this being an upgrade over the previous UHD, while not exactly being "The Definitive" release we all hoped for.

Is that a correct summation?

Really depends on 1. how sensitive you are to compression issues and 2. whether you’re set up for Dolby Vision playback. If you’ve got #2, #1 isn’t such a problem. If not, as another member said, YMMV. Personally, I love this disc and think it absolutely buries the old UHD. But that’s me.

JCRW82 · 10-05-2021, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casual_G4m3r

I'll have my copy here from BBY tonight. I have seen this release has been a bit divisive among fans, but my takeaway from this thread seems to be leaning toward this being an upgrade over the previous UHD, while not exactly being "The Definitive" release we all hoped for.

Is that a correct summation?

CreasyBear · 10-05-2021, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The80s

You say terrific. I say terrible.

y2jman · 10-05-2021, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Croweyes1121

Really depends on 1. how sensitive you are to compression issues and 2. whether you’re set up for Dolby Vision playback. If you’ve got #2, #1 isn’t such a problem. If not, as another member said, YMMV. Personally, I love this disc and think it absolutely buries the old UHD. But that’s me.

I don't know much about compression don't have dv but I will keep this new 4k from shout factory that I got yesterday in mail from best buy going to sell old 4k

CreasyBear · 10-05-2021, 06:47 PM

Ran by BB to pick up my ISPU for H78 and it was a wasteland. They had none of them aside from mine and a couple of others picking up their ISPU for H78. They didn't even have any American Psycho steelbooks either. They had to grab them from the back for me. But it's nice to have this in hand finally. The slipcase is so much nicer in person. Can't wait to check it out tonight.

The AP steelbook is amazeballs.

Casual_G4m3r · 10-05-2021, 06:53 PM

Thanks for the clarification everyone. My television (LG C9 Oled) has DV, however, my player (lower end LG) doesn't support DV.

Eventually, I'll get around to upgrading it, but it still works fine, and I have no issues with it being able to play back anything I throw at it, barring a manufacturing error like the Donnie Darko theatrical cut.

I bought my player before I had my current t.v. set, and my old one didn't support DV, so I didn't prioritize it when shopping for a disc spinner. The old saying "buy nice or buy twice" certainly applies here.

Plutotype · 10-05-2021, 07:01 PM

Based on the caps, Shout is definately improvement color wise, resolution wise, shadow detail wise. The only area is grain managment ( check cap 18 ). Compression looks to be healthy ( 71Mbps plus DV layer = DV is a must ). One would need to know how much grain actually benefits the picture and what is dirt and compression artifact vs "clean" picture.

crutzulee · 10-05-2021, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

You can literally see the Lionsgate FILM. Scream is a joke.

If you sit 1 foot from your UHDTV you can see all that beautiful grain on the Lionsgate 4K just like in those screwy Caps. Even 8 feet away on a 50" or bigger screen. Too bad about the 7.1 Chace/Fold-down Mono Chace.

This isn't a Kubrick or Kurosawa film so the Aspect Ratio for a Carpenter film has never bothered me I even watch his stuff with ZOOM on a lot like the Fullscreen version i.e. The Thing, Halloween, Big T.I.L.C. Not Christine. Widescreen for that one. I don't think I have ever watched a Carpenter film in theatre always TV/Cable so ZOOM FTW!!

It actually makes Halloween feel less campy and low-budget if you watch it with ZOOM on.

I've always wondered why so many on here discount what you have to say based on the misspelling of your name when the content of your posts are enough...

KubrickKurasawa · 10-05-2021, 07:08 PM

So who remembers watching this in the theatre?

Just kidding! Such a sensitive bunch!

Did Sam Loomis/Donald Pleasence have a Blue tinted Beard/Goatee for the whole film or just the night scenes with the blue gel lighting? A Grey/White tinted Goatee in the Daytime scenes?? I think Lionsgate and old Shout! got it right. No Smurfie lookin' colored Goatee hairs on the daytime scenes??

Anyway, I recently watched the Lionsgate Special Features of The TV Version where Loomis checks on a perhaps 10-year-old Michael catatonically staring out the Hospital Window from his room, before he shreds it, etc. SISTER. Those scenes after the interview/hearing with Loomis protesting he be sent to a higher security facility. No blue facial hair and those look like the rough original film.

I wish there were more daytime screencaps this is fun examining the "possible" crime scene

I think the daytime scenes were all Neutral/Warm lit. Especially viewing Laurie and Linda when Laurie is in her house in her Pink Robe and her friend is trying to borrow her blouse. Another cut scene. And then the nighttime scenes for example with Paul were blue gel lit. NOT THE WHOLE DAMN FILM GUYS just the night scenes! Well, Scream begs to differ possibly, but I don't have enough screencaps to compare nor care it's just fun seeing the differences. OK...I think in the end we all like whatever version we have because this is a fun film.

All you have to do is plant a seed of doubt, or speak the truth. Which is it?? Hahaha...

Member-496152 · 10-05-2021, 07:08 PM

So... uhh, that Michael Myers guy... he sure is spooky.

moviebuff75 · 10-05-2021, 07:13 PM

Those aren't cut scenes. They were filmed for the tv version around the time of production on HII.

Casual_G4m3r · 10-05-2021, 07:15 PM

I just really want to see the T.V. edit. I would be getting this even if it didn't include the T.V. edit, sure, but I must admit that is a big reason why I want this release.

It's a fun curio IMO, and I'm interested to see how it differs from the theatrical cut.

captainjoe · 10-05-2021, 07:16 PM

Just popped it in to check it out on my Sony OLED with DV and it looks very good. The compression artifacts are minimal with DV and the grain structure looks solid. I think this is similar to some of the Studio Canal discs where the HDR 10 layer isn’t encoded as well and the Dolby Vision layer fixes a lot of the issues

Member-496152 · 10-05-2021, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Casual_G4m3r

I just really want to see the T.V. edit. I would be getting this even if it didn't include the T.V. edit, sure, but I must admit that is a big reason why I want this release.

It's a fun curio IMO, and I'm interested to see how it differs from the theatrical cut.

Same, gonna make some Jiffy Pop and throw it on this Friday night. That, for me, was a big appeal of this release. It just sounded like a fun viewing experience.

KubrickKurasawa · 10-05-2021, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by moviebuff75

Those aren't cut scenes. They were filmed for the tv version around the time of production on HII.

Well, they don't count then do they, and I never knew that. That's crazy! Hahaha

tazz13 · 10-05-2021, 07:23 PM

has anyone in Canada ever ordered online through Sunrise Records? how are they in terms of packaging, shipping etc.?

BPW2016 · 10-05-2021, 07:40 PM

Can't see if this has been asked/answered or not: does the TV edit reinstate the Smith's Grove screen card that has been missing off every version except the Criterion LD?

Edit: Disregard, the image was kindly posted by Croweyes1121

https://ibb.co/sgVZF0X

Pi905 · 10-05-2021, 07:43 PM

More detail visible in the trees here: https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x...6&l=1&i=2&go=1

OutOfBoose · 10-05-2021, 07:46 PM

Looks like a nice upgrade. Especially colors-wise. Didn't expect the movie can look this much better after previous UHDs.

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10-05-2021, 07:16 PM	#9234
captainjoe Blu-ray Guru Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Alberta, Canada Home Theater Gallery:38 4K collection:1397 Blu-ray collection:4052 Blu-ray reviews: 5	Just popped it in to check it out on my Sony OLED with DV and it looks very good. The compression artifacts are minimal with DV and the grain structure looks solid. I think this is similar to some of the Studio Canal discs where the HDR 10 layer isn’t encoded as well and the Dolby Vision layer fixes a lot of the issues Last edited by captainjoe; 10-05-2021 at 07:47 PM.

10-05-2021, 07:40 PM	#9238
BPW2016 Senior Member Member since:Jun 2017	Can't see if this has been asked/answered or not: does the TV edit reinstate the Smith's Grove screen card that has been missing off every version except the Criterion LD? Edit: Disregard, the image was kindly posted by Croweyes1121 https://ibb.co/sgVZF0X Last edited by BPW2016; 10-05-2021 at 10:06 PM.

10-05-2021, 06:47 PM	#9226
CreasyBear Blu-ray Count Member since:Apr 2019 Trading Score:115	Ran by BB to pick up my ISPU for H78 and it was a wasteland. They had none of them aside from mine and a couple of others picking up their ISPU for H78. They didn't even have any American Psycho steelbooks either. They had to grab them from the back for me. But it's nice to have this in hand finally. The slipcase is so much nicer in person. Can't wait to check it out tonight. The AP steelbook is amazeballs.

10-05-2021, 06:53 PM	#9227
Casual_G4m3r Active Member Member since:Jun 2021 Location:USA 4K collection:670 Blu-ray collection:950 DVD collection:132 MA collection:1 Digital collection:326 iTunes collection:4 Trading Score:64	Thanks for the clarification everyone. My television (LG C9 Oled) has DV, however, my player (lower end LG) doesn't support DV. Eventually, I'll get around to upgrading it, but it still works fine, and I have no issues with it being able to play back anything I throw at it, barring a manufacturing error like the Donnie Darko theatrical cut. I bought my player before I had my current t.v. set, and my old one didn't support DV, so I didn't prioritize it when shopping for a disc spinner. The old saying "buy nice or buy twice" certainly applies here.

10-05-2021, 07:01 PM	#9228
Plutotype Member Member since:Oct 2011 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:2	Based on the caps, Shout is definately improvement color wise, resolution wise, shadow detail wise. The only area is grain managment ( check cap 18 ). Compression looks to be healthy ( 71Mbps plus DV layer = DV is a must ). One would need to know how much grain actually benefits the picture and what is dirt and compression artifact vs "clean" picture.

10-05-2021, 07:08 PM	#9230
KubrickKurasawa Blu-ray Knight Member since:Feb 2014 Location:Midwest 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:612 DVD collection:129 Digital collection:70 iTunes collection:92 Prime collection:9	So who remembers watching this in the theatre? Just kidding! Such a sensitive bunch! Did Sam Loomis/Donald Pleasence have a Blue tinted Beard/Goatee for the whole film or just the night scenes with the blue gel lighting? A Grey/White tinted Goatee in the Daytime scenes?? I think Lionsgate and old Shout! got it right. No Smurfie lookin' colored Goatee hairs on the daytime scenes?? Anyway, I recently watched the Lionsgate Special Features of The TV Version where Loomis checks on a perhaps 10-year-old Michael catatonically staring out the Hospital Window from his room, before he shreds it, etc. SISTER. Those scenes after the interview/hearing with Loomis protesting he be sent to a higher security facility. No blue facial hair and those look like the rough original film. I wish there were more daytime screencaps this is fun examining the "possible" crime scene I think the daytime scenes were all Neutral/Warm lit. Especially viewing Laurie and Linda when Laurie is in her house in her Pink Robe and her friend is trying to borrow her blouse. Another cut scene. And then the nighttime scenes for example with Paul were blue gel lit. NOT THE WHOLE DAMN FILM GUYS just the night scenes! Well, Scream begs to differ possibly, but I don't have enough screencaps to compare nor care it's just fun seeing the differences. OK...I think in the end we all like whatever version we have because this is a fun film. All you have to do is plant a seed of doubt, or speak the truth. Which is it?? Hahaha...

10-05-2021, 07:08 PM	#9231
Member-496152 Senior Member Member since:Feb 2019 4K collection:143 Blu-ray collection:665 Blu-ray reviews:1	So... uhh, that Michael Myers guy... he sure is spooky.

10-05-2021, 07:13 PM	#9232
moviebuff75 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 4K collection:119 Blu-ray collection:1499 DVD collection:14	Those aren't cut scenes. They were filmed for the tv version around the time of production on HII.

10-05-2021, 07:15 PM	#9233
Casual_G4m3r Active Member Member since:Jun 2021 Location:USA 4K collection:670 Blu-ray collection:950 DVD collection:132 MA collection:1 Digital collection:326 iTunes collection:4 Trading Score:64	I just really want to see the T.V. edit. I would be getting this even if it didn't include the T.V. edit, sure, but I must admit that is a big reason why I want this release. It's a fun curio IMO, and I'm interested to see how it differs from the theatrical cut.

10-05-2021, 07:23 PM	#9237
tazz13 Active Member Member since:Sep 2013	has anyone in Canada ever ordered online through Sunrise Records? how are they in terms of packaging, shipping etc.?

10-05-2021, 07:43 PM	#9239
Pi905 Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2014 4K collection:227 Blu-ray collection:971 DVD collection:113	More detail visible in the trees here: https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?a=2&x...6&l=1&i=2&go=1

10-05-2021, 07:46 PM	#9240
OutOfBoose Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Aug 2015 Location:The City Blu-ray collection:1	Looks like a nice upgrade. Especially colors-wise. Didn't expect the movie can look this much better after previous UHDs.

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