Forrest Gump 4K UHD (1994) - Page 5 - Blu-ray Forum

buckeye1 · 04-12-2018, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Wasn't a restoration (Gump isn't falling apart or anything). It would have been a 2K transfer.

So this new release is also a 2K transfer and not a 4K master?

PeterTHX · 04-12-2018, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by buckeye1

So this new release is also a 2K transfer and not a 4K master?

I doubt Paramount's going to upconvert an older master. Gump was finished on film so making a 4K scan isn't going to be difficult.

amoergosum · 04-12-2018, 05:53 AM

"Paramount has remastered the movies in 4K resolution, HDR10"

HDR10?

I thought Paramount made their decision in favor of Dolby Vision?

FilmFreakosaurus · 04-12-2018, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by amoergosum

"Paramount has remastered the movies in 4K resolution, HDR10"

HDR10?

I thought Paramount made their decision in favor of Dolby Vision?

They don't trumpet Dolby Vision as a feature very often. However, they have made some commitments to using DV on disc.

pi2loc · 04-12-2018, 07:58 AM

Amazing! Too bad we probably won't get American Beauty in 4K.

amoergosum · 04-12-2018, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

They don't trumpet Dolby Vision as a feature very often. However, they have made some commitments to using DV on disc.

I'm still looking for my first 4k tv.

There are no tvs which support both HDR10/HDR10+ and Dolby Vision, correct?

I asked Panasonic about their OLED tvs this week. They told me that because of hardware limitations Dolby Vision couldn't even be offered as a firmware update for their current tvs.

philochs · 04-12-2018, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I doubt Paramount's going to upconvert an older master. Gump was finished on film so making a 4K scan isn't going to be difficult.

Forrest Gump was released in native 4K already, back in 2014. It came in the "Samsung UHD video pack bundle", and it's a native 4K transfer. That version was without HDR though, just simple 4k goodness. Judging from the comments I've heard about how the picture quality is, this UHD will be a thing of beauty. I've seen some screenshots of the transfer too, but my screen is 1080p.

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Originally Posted by pi2loc

Amazing! Too bad we probably won't get American Beauty in 4K.

Well, if they can release Mel Gibson movies... American Beauty is a classic, maybe they'll wait 5-7 years and release it when people have forgotten and moved on.

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Originally Posted by amoergosum

I'm still looking for my first 4k tv.

There are no tvs which support both HDR10/HDR10+ and Dolby Vision, correct?

All the 2018 model Dolby Vision tvs also support HDR10, but none of them support HDR10+. Dolby Vision is the premium feature that everyone should want, while HDR10+ is for people who have a Samsung or Panasonic and can't get Dolby Vision. It's not as good, and so far specific discs are yet to be announced.

philochs · 04-12-2018, 09:50 AM

Here are some pics of the UHD transfer of Forrest Gump, from the Samsung USB bundle from back in 2014.

[Show spoiler]

amoergosum · 04-12-2018, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by philochs

All the 2018 model Dolby Vision tvs also support HDR10, but none of them support HDR10+. Dolby Vision is the premium feature that everyone should want, while HDR10+ is for people who have a Samsung or Panasonic and can't get Dolby Vision. It's not as good, and so far specific discs are yet to be announced.

Would Sony be able to offer an HDR10+ update for their current TVs just in case HDR10+ is going to be the winner ?

As I mentioned...a Dolby Vision firmware update would not be possible for Panasonic TVs because of the hardware. So I'm wondering about the Sony hardware.

It sucks that they make it that difficult for customers.

philochs · 04-12-2018, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by amoergosum

Would Sony be able to offer an HDR10+ update for their current TVs just in case HDR10+ is going to be the winner ?

As I mentioned...a Dolby Vision firmware update would not be possible for Panasonic TVs because of the hardware. So I'm wondering about the Sony hardware.

It sucks that they make it that difficult for customers.

It's technically achievable on certain Sony tvs, via a firmware update, to add HDR10+, but Sony has gone on record saying they aren't interested in it. Its a lot of work getting this HDR stuff working over HDMI 2.0. It'll be so simple in HDMI 2.1 tvs, and maybe by then there will be a few discs out that could make Sony reconsider. I'd say the chances of Sony adding HDR10+ to 2018 tvs are slim to none. They probably won't add it next year, as they are shunning it.

amoergosum · 04-12-2018, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by philochs

It's technically achievable on certain Sony tvs, via a firmware update, to add HDR10+, but Sony has gone on record saying they aren't interested in it. Its a lot of work getting this HDR stuff working over HDMI 2.0. It'll be so simple in HDMI 2.1 tvs, and maybe by then there will be a few discs out that could make Sony reconsider. I'd say the chances of Sony adding HDR10+ to 2018 tvs are slim to none. They probably won't add it next year, as they are shunning it.

So what do you think? Is Dolby Vision going to be the winner when it comes to physical media?

What TV would you recommend to purchase right now ?

Vincent89 · 04-12-2018, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by philochs

Here are some pics of the UHD transfer of Forrest Gump, from the Samsung USB bundle from back in 2014.

Is like a bad upscale

mwilsonthe3rd · 04-12-2018, 11:12 AM

Haven't seen an Australian listing yet, only a matter of time though. Definitely interested in seeing how the visual effects stand up in 4K, hoping the seams are noticeable to the point of distraction.

philochs · 04-12-2018, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Vincent89

Is like a bad upscale

They are jpeg images, they don't represent what the UHD download actually looks like in motion, but I never owned that Samsung pack. Obviously, this disc is going to be a huge upgrade, but jpeg images are very compressed.

trippledx3 · 04-12-2018, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pi2loc

Amazing! Too bad we probably won't get American Beauty in 4K.

Why wont we?? Its on my top 10 want in 4k list

FilmFreakosaurus · 04-12-2018, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by trippledx3

Why wont we?? Its on my top 10 want in 4k list

They're trying to erase Kevin Spacey from Hollywood. A bit of over-compensation. However, there are any number of scummy or questionable actors/actresses over the years who still have their movies available.

steve_dave · 04-12-2018, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

They're trying to erase Kevin Spacey from Hollywood. A bit of over-compensation. However, there are any number of scummy or questionable actors/actresses over the years who still have their movies available.

They left the joke in Blockers about American Beauty so they aren't trying to completly erase him. More like trying to find the right time to release it without curtailing criticism of either "riding the controversy" or "supporting him."

meremortal · 04-12-2018, 04:25 PM

Saw this one in the theater as a kid and remember it still having sold out shows for months afterwards like with Titanic. Hugely popular film at the time. Watched it quite a bit on vhs growing up but don't think I got around to watching the blu.

imsounoriginal · 04-12-2018, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

They're trying to erase Kevin Spacey from Hollywood. A bit of over-compensation. However, there are any number of scummy or questionable actors/actresses over the years who still have their movies available.

We'll get American Beauty 4K eventually, maybe even next year for the 20th anniversary when there's some more distance from SpaceyGate. He's been in too many movies that'll sell well. Usual Suspects? Superman Returns? LA Confidential? Se7en? [EDIT: and A Bug's Life, aka the unfairly forgotten gem of Pixar from way back when they made good movies] Of course they're all coming to 4K at some point.

Nothing371 · 04-12-2018, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

They're trying to erase Kevin Spacey from Hollywood. A bit of over-compensation. However, there are any number of scummy or questionable actors/actresses over the years who still have their movies available.

I have myself a giggle every time Hollywood pretends to take a stand against something.

04-12-2018, 05:53 AM	#83
amoergosum Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2011 4K collection:171 Blu-ray collection:820 Trading Score:9	"Paramount has remastered the movies in 4K resolution, HDR10" HDR10? I thought Paramount made their decision in favor of Dolby Vision?

04-12-2018, 07:58 AM	#85
pi2loc Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Sep 2012 Location:Saco, ME 4K collection:579 Blu-ray collection:2188 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:459	Amazing! Too bad we probably won't get American Beauty in 4K.

04-12-2018, 09:50 AM	#88
philochs Senior Member Member since:Feb 2012 Blu-ray reviews:8	Here are some pics of the UHD transfer of Forrest Gump, from the Samsung USB bundle from back in 2014. [Show spoiler]

04-12-2018, 11:12 AM	#93
mwilsonthe3rd Junior Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2018 Location:Sydney, Australia 4K collection:147 Blu-ray collection:608 DVD collection:166	Haven't seen an Australian listing yet, only a matter of time though. Definitely interested in seeing how the visual effects stand up in 4K, hoping the seams are noticeable to the point of distraction.

04-12-2018, 04:25 PM	#98
meremortal Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2012 Location:Bedford Falls Trading Score:258	Saw this one in the theater as a kid and remember it still having sold out shows for months afterwards like with Titanic. Hugely popular film at the time. Watched it quite a bit on vhs growing up but don't think I got around to watching the blu.

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