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Old 12-17-2021, 06:33 PM   #10561
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Is possible check BluRay or 4K discs in a computer external drive to see if have issues?

I do that with Audio CDs, I rip with EAC or XLD and those apps do a test and brings a .log with the results about errors or pass the tests etc.

I would love do that with DVDs/BluRays/4Ks, of that way we can know if those scratches don't affect the play without watch the whole disc, sometimes I don't have time to watch the scratched movie right away.
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Old 12-17-2021, 06:45 PM   #10562
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Is possible check BluRay or 4K discs in a computer external drive to see if have issues?

I do that with Audio CDs, I rip with EAC or XLD and those apps do a test and brings a .log with the results about errors or pass the tests etc.

I would love do that with DVDs/BluRays/4Ks, of that way we can know if those scratches don't affect the play without watch the whole disc, sometimes I don't have time to watch the scratched movie right away.
I believe MakeMKV runs hash checks against files, so if you're able to rip it with that just fine then you'll know if the disc is working.
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Old 12-17-2021, 07:49 PM   #10563
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There's an oval image in one of the night time scenes. To this day, i still don't see it on my copy.
I saw it, but it's very hard to see. If you're settings aren't adjusted properly on your TV it may highlight the issue more. With a properly calibrated display, it's a lot harder to notice.
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Old 12-17-2021, 07:51 PM   #10564
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I order the 5 titles, arrives in a yellow bubble paper bag, no box! At least they use a bubble mailer bag, not like my previous image that they use a paper mailer with no bubbles.


Thankfully no damage on the slips, I had luck this time, but yes Amazon packing recently is crap.

But you know in some way the paper bubbled bag is better than a box, because the bubbles protect a little more than the items floating around like a blender inside a box without any protection (by example I got Critters in a box with no protection at all inside, so the boxset moves around and all the corners arrives damaged).

Just some things (I open all except Halloween 2).

  • There's a 1cm scratch on Halloween 3, maybe is superficial and don't affect the play... but bummer! (SF can send a replacement?).
  • Halloween 1 BluRay multiple scuffs, possibly don't affect the play, not deep scuffs.
  • Halloween 4 comes in a nasty Eco Case, so 1 disc floating around and the inlay paper is mushed, I really hate that Eco Cases!!!
  • Halloween 2 Slipcase is larger in one side, weird, seems like a misprint, I can show pics later.
You know I think the problem about scratches that people report, me included, is because those black cases, the center hole is weak, I wish they use Scanavo cases like Criterion, Indicator or the Slims clear like Vinegar Syndrome, I don't care if those not say 4K UHD on the top like black ones but those protect more the discs.


Protectors that I use: https://www.retroprotection.com/Stee...tector-186.htm not fit for this, I need check the other sizes protectors that I have.
Ironically, I've received quite a few discs over the years with the discs popped off the spindles and rattling around inside, yet the discs are actually unscratched. Yet many that were on the hub properly were scratched. Go figure. I think discs are just being handled very poorly these days and are being popped into the cases already damaged. Though stacked discs do contribute to circular/radial scratches, and cardboard sleeves are a always a bad idea.
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Old 12-17-2021, 07:54 PM   #10565
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Is possible check BluRay or 4K discs in a computer external drive to see if have issues?

I do that with Audio CDs, I rip with EAC or XLD and those apps do a test and brings a .log with the results about errors or pass the tests etc.

I would love do that with DVDs/BluRays/4Ks, of that way we can know if those scratches don't affect the play without watch the whole disc, sometimes I don't have time to watch the scratched movie right away.
You can use VSO Inspector on your PC drive to read blu-ray/DVD discs and test for surface read errors (select Scan tab, check the surface scan box but uncheck file test, then click start). For UHD of course your drive needs to be UHD capable.

But of course players may hiccup or cause issues with discs that your PC drive may handle okay with a scan. But it's a good place to start - if that scan shows any read errors, that disc should be replaced.
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Old 12-17-2021, 08:37 PM   #10566
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I believe MakeMKV runs hash checks against files, so if you're able to rip it with that just fine then you'll know if the disc is working.
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You can use VSO Inspector on your PC drive to read blu-ray/DVD discs and test for surface read errors (select Scan tab, check the surface scan box but uncheck file test, then click start). For UHD of course your drive needs to be UHD capable.

But of course players may hiccup or cause issues with discs that your PC drive may handle okay with a scan. But it's a good place to start - if that scan shows any read errors, that disc should be replaced.

https://www.makemkv.com/

https://www.vso-software.fr/products.../inspector.php
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Old 12-17-2021, 08:41 PM   #10567
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Please SF stop to use this crap!

the discs in those eco cases are almost off and the inlay paper is mashed due the holes.


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Old 12-17-2021, 10:21 PM   #10568
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having those cases on ultra hd sets is a disgrace. I even hate to see them when I'm buying $5 blu rays. the whole "eco" thing is a sham and they need to just go back to regular cases and stop being cheap. luckily I had a bunch of $9.99 ultra hd movies that I cannibalized the cases for to upgrade my Halloween sets. Bless Sony for always keeping it classy on the thick cases.
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Old 12-17-2021, 10:28 PM   #10569
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More pollution comes from raising barnyard animals smh. Eco cases will save earth LMFAO. Let alone coal, diesel trucks, and auto's. This society. We gotta show them! Buy more elaborate packaging!
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Old 12-17-2021, 10:40 PM   #10570
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Old 12-17-2021, 11:42 PM   #10571
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Eco cases are worse for the environment as they break more easily and us collectors who mostly buy physical media chuck them out as they're flimsy and often ruin the cover slips. They obviously cost less as it's less plastic and that's the only reason these companies are using them. They couldn't give a shit about the environment. With the prices these releases often cost it's a dog move to even use those cases in the first place.
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Old 12-18-2021, 01:35 AM   #10572
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Please SF stop to use this crap!

the discs in those eco cases are almost off and the inlay paper is mashed due the holes.


proactive works for me.i have a bunch of blu ray cases 1 disc 2 disc 3 disc and 4k 2-3 disc brand new waiting to replace shit cases.buy them on ebay.do the same with cd cases.
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Old 12-18-2021, 04:53 AM   #10573
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Please SF stop to use this crap!

the discs in those eco cases are almost off and the inlay paper is mashed due the holes.


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My first Halloween III set was scratched so I got a replacement from Amazon. One set came in an Eco case and one set didn't. So it's totally random what they use. These eco cases need to disappear. Then again, if there's one good thing about them, they don't have the outgassing issues traditional blu-ray/UHD cases have, due to less plastic underneath the disc. Come to think of it, I'm not sure which I hate more - the eco cases or half of my cases covered in that outgassing stuff. I think I hate the outgassing more. But eco cases ruin slips.

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Old 12-18-2021, 04:58 AM   #10574
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having those cases on ultra hd sets is a disgrace. I even hate to see them when I'm buying $5 blu rays. the whole "eco" thing is a sham and they need to just go back to regular cases and stop being cheap. luckily I had a bunch of $9.99 ultra hd movies that I cannibalized the cases for to upgrade my Halloween sets. Bless Sony for always keeping it classy on the thick cases.
What they need to do is reformulate the crappy plastic they use in these standard cases so they don't outgas. DVD cases (and CD jewel cases) didn't have that problem, but when they switched plastics for blu-ray cases, and now UHD cases, they chose an unfortunate material. It may be that they are not being manufactured properly which is resulting in that problem. Either way, I can't believe this is still ongoing. How are more people not complaining directly to the studios about the eco-cases and the outgassing for standard cases?

As a side note, there's a different type of blu-ray case I sometimes get from UK releases, and it's a darker blue, and slightly thicker and more durable - not so bendy, and they never, ever have an outgassing issue. So whatever those are, it's what should be the global standard.
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More pollution comes from raising barnyard animals smh. Eco cases will save earth LMFAO. Let alone coal, diesel trucks, and auto's. This society. We gotta show them! Buy more elaborate packaging!
Some board game companies are now dropping their shrink wrapping and are instead shipping them out with only 4 round stickers, one on each side, to keep the box shut. Supposedly it's for "eco" reasons. There are some on the board game forums that champion the cause. Of course it won't make the slightest dent in pollution, since:

A) we're surrounded by plastic everywhere we turn for everything from discs to cases to electronics and phones and TVs and remotes and furniture and appliances and cars, but sure, let's drop some ultra-thin shrink wrap from board games - that will save the Earth.

B) no shrink wrap means more people are getting their expensive games with scuffing and damage to the box, meaning more returns (and more waste). Some deluxe versions of games often advertise as having fancy UV gloss on the box or other such fancy packaging, only to get scratched up by the lack of protection.

C) the sticky tape seals on all 4 sides that replace the shrink wrap are ... plastic! And much thicker plastic than the thin layer of shrink wrap. Doh!

D) those same games often come with lots of plastic components inside anyways. Much more plastic than the shrink wrap consists of. Some publishers are switching to using more wood and less plastic components, but those take resources to manufacture, too.

But that doesn't stop the companies from posturing and some people thinking it's a great change.

If we're going to make any changes to improve the environment (which I'm all for), make changes where there will actually be an impact, not on something trivial that will have zero impact on the planet, like a small industry like board games.

And that's the problem with Eco cases. They're the opposite of environmentally-friendly, since they often just get thrown away and replaced with better cases. And just like having no shrink wrap on games is worse for the consumer, these eco cases are worse for the customers.
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Old 12-20-2021, 10:07 PM   #10576
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I finally picked up a pack of those SCF3 Steelbook protective boxes, which fit these Shout Halloween editions perfectly, and they're really nice! A little bit pricey for 10, but they even fit my Repo Man, Twin Peaks and other Criterion digibooks, which until now I was never able to fit into a case. Have 3 left over for if Shout does the other Halloween films next year!
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What protective cases will these Shout Factory Halloween slip cases fit into?
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I caved, got this along with 2-4 for the 25 ish price.... It looked good but I'm not sure how much better than the other release. Both looked good but color was different. I love the hardcase with this release but wish they'd gone with the og artwork because the new artwork sucks. That goes for 2-4 as well, however the films look great.
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Please SF stop to use this crap!

the discs in those eco cases are almost off and the inlay paper is mashed due the holes.


They've been doing this crap for a while now, f**king @sshats. Maniac cop 2 and 3 have great cases!
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I caved, got this along with 2-4 for the 25 ish price.... It looked good but I'm not sure how much better than the other release. Both looked good but color was different. I love the hardcase with this release but wish they'd gone with the og artwork because the new artwork sucks. That goes for 2-4 as well, however the films look great.
The case art has original artwork though right?
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